Upgrading to a s478 3.0ghz

mrizvi66

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I'd be going from a P4 2.4c ghz to a P4 3.0ghz...

Current System:

Intel 875PBZ w2.4c w/HT
2GB pc3200
Geforce 6200 128mb
Raptor 36GB
Sound blaster Audigy 4
Vista Ultimate

Worth going to a 3.0ghz to squeeze out another year on the system...?

My board revision wasn't compatible with the 3.4EE deal that was out a couple days ago...
 

cubeless

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u r adding 25% more cpu cycles... with that vid card u obviously r'n a big gamer... u will get a little bump in ripping, etc..., maybe up to 20% gain in some things...

for what u probably do it will most likely take u another year or two out... a problem might be hidef video tho... it may not be able to render that well... my new core2 laptop seems to not even do the deep_blue clip perfectly smooth...

how much is it going to cost?
 

mrizvi66

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like $100 new...i'll probably get a new video card at the same time...maybe a 6600gt or a 7600gs
 

aka1nas

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I'd keep saving your pennies and maybe just get the video card for now. I wouldn't spend $100 for such a small performance upgrade on the CPU. Honestly, by the time that something comes out that is absolutely too demanding for the 2.4, it will likely be pretty crummy running it on a 3Ghz netburst chip as well. If you wait a few more months, C2D systems will drop quite a bit as CPU and DDR2 prices fall.
 

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Originally posted by: mrizvi66
like $100 new...i'll probably get a new video card at the same time...maybe a 6600gt or a 7600gs

you could proabably buy a used board/cpu on the FS trade for a AMD X2 for a little more. S939 <--- or your going to need new ram

You have the RAM. PCI-E video cards are overall cheaper anyhow. And you got a dual core. What more could you ask for?


But as to your comment. NO, a 600mhz on a ancient platform is not worth the 100 dollar investment.
 

mrizvi66

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its 600mhz...but i'd rather not swap out the whole mobo...i know its kinda like throwing money in a black hole...and i don't game on the machine at all...so i could see it lasting me at least another 2 years...
 

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I'd pick up a cheap $50 AMD mobo and X2 3800+. Sure it might cost $50 more but at least you'll get 2 cores that will likely overclock to 2.5ghz (~4600-4800+). That way it'll definately last you 2 years because it'll be double the speed increase over your 2.4ghz P4 for not much more $.
 

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Originally posted by: mrizvi66
its 600mhz...but i'd rather not swap out the whole mobo...i know its kinda like throwing money in a black hole...and i don't game on the machine at all...so i could see it lasting me at least another 2 years...

Why do you want to upgrade the video card if you're not gonna game? For $100 you can get a much faster A64 from the FS/FT forum and a good NF4 Ultra motherboard (the MSI one from geeks.com). I doubt you can find a dual core processor for ~$50 (the mobo's a bit less than $50 shipped so let's just say $50 for processor), but you can definitely find at least a 3500 in the forum, and anything up to and possibly including a 4000 for $50 (remember, I'm talkin' 939 here). Might as well go that route, reuse the RAM, and get a new vid card since you're gonna do that anyway. You'll be stuck with "outdated tech" still, but it'll be much much better than a 3GHz P4, and you'll have a PCI-e slot, and the option for a dual core processor later.
 

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for 119$ you can get a P4 Extreme Edition 3.4 Ghz that has 2MB of L3 cach. Me and a couple of guys from this forum bought them as an upgrade for our systems.

This was an 1000$ CPU a few years ago. So 119$ at geeks.com is an awome deal and much better then 100$ for a 3.0.

And for ~250$ you can get a top of the line AGP card ATI x1950XT from GeCube on sale now at newegg.
 

joex444

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Dude, he just said NO GAMES AT ALL. The 6200 is fine, leave it alone.

Netburst architecture is basically pwned nowadays, so the logical upgrade would be a S939 X2. If you use AM2 you end up with useless RAM, same with the C2D boards.

The X2 3800+ is right around $100 Retail, and if you want to keep the AGP, then you'd be looking at an ASRock board. I'd rather steer clear of that, though. Then, if you go with integrated graphics you end up with MicroATX boards, and they'd be around $60 for an Asus. Of course, if neither of these is a good idea, then you can get a regular ATX and it will have a PCI Express graphics port. For a PCI-e card, you can't get cheaper than a 6200 for $35. A lateral move, kind of ironic.

Then, you could keep your S478 and just upgrade the CPU. Now, I'd be more tempted to try to overclock it, if possible. If you could get enough extra speed for free, then you could delay upgrading for some more time. The worst that happens is your CPU won't go faster and you get a new chip.

 

myocardia

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Originally posted by: joex444
Now, I'd be more tempted to try to overclock it, if possible. If you could get enough extra speed for free, then you could delay upgrading for some more time. The worst that happens is your CPU won't go faster and you get a new chip.
That would be a good idea, if he didn't have an Intel 875 motherboard. They had no overclock options at all, assuming that he means he has an Intel brand motherboard.
 

bob4432

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Originally posted by: myocardia
Originally posted by: joex444
Now, I'd be more tempted to try to overclock it, if possible. If you could get enough extra speed for free, then you could delay upgrading for some more time. The worst that happens is your CPU won't go faster and you get a new chip.
That would be a good idea, if he didn't have an Intel 875 motherboard. They had no overclock options at all, assuming that he means he has an Intel brand motherboard.

i think, from the op he has a actual intel board. too bad because i remember the 2.4C o/cing very well....
 

myocardia

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Originally posted by: bob4432
i think, from the op he has a actual intel board. too bad because i remember the 2.4C o/cing very well....
Yeah, that's what I got from the OP, too. And those 2.4C's averaged between 3.2 & 3.5 Ghz, with a good motherboard, and a good heatsink. They were really something, until the E6300's came along.
 

secretanchitman

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overclock that 2.4C like mine! my chip got up to 3.6Ghz...

mine was stuck at 2.9-3.0Ghz on stock voltages (actually a little bit undervolted), but damn was it fast....
 

mrizvi66

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Yeah i have the actual Intel 875pbz board...kind of a newb at OCing...but i don't think the intel board has any OCing options at all...i was looking at switching over to AMD just so i could reuse the ram and stuff...but had a bad experience with AMD last time (about 7 years ago)...have heard good things about them since...so i would be open to the change.

I could just swap out a OC able intel based board...what would be the better option on making the system last at least 2 more years?
 

mrizvi66

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Originally posted by: Aeros
for 119$ you can get a P4 Extreme Edition 3.4 Ghz that has 2MB of L3 cach. Me and a couple of guys from this forum bought them as an upgrade for our systems.

This was an 1000$ CPU a few years ago. So 119$ at geeks.com is an awome deal and much better then 100$ for a 3.0.

And for ~250$ you can get a top of the line AGP card ATI x1950XT from GeCube on sale now at newegg.

my board revision is not compatible with the P4 3.4EE chip...if it was would've pulled the trigger on that a week ag
 

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Originally posted by: mrizvi66
Originally posted by: Aeros
for 119$ you can get a P4 Extreme Edition 3.4 Ghz that has 2MB of L3 cach. Me and a couple of guys from this forum bought them as an upgrade for our systems.

This was an 1000$ CPU a few years ago. So 119$ at geeks.com is an awome deal and much better then 100$ for a 3.0.

And for ~250$ you can get a top of the line AGP card ATI x1950XT from GeCube on sale now at newegg.

my board revision is not compatible with the P4 3.4EE chip...if it was would've pulled the trigger on that a week ago

if you are gonna swap out your MB, might as well go A64 ;)
the A64s blow away the P4s, generally and there are a LOT of good deals now ;)

and the 3.4EE is *gone* ... a few left for $145 ... somewhere else ...
 

mrizvi66

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well if i do go to a a64...it be better to with an x2 right?i want to keep the total cost to under 200 bucks...while still keeping the existing ram...
 

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x2 if you can afford it ... of course :)

look in Hot Deals --although i am not an "amd man" i DID notice some great deals while buying my P4EE
--and AMD is *fine* ... i'd switch in a heartbeat if it gave me more for for little bucks -at any time
... no problem whatsoever. ;)
 

bob4432

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Originally posted by: mrizvi66
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813186059

anyone dealt with a Foxconn board before? never heard of them...

i have run foxconn boards before. very reliable boards but not the best for o/c. if you look on a lot of different m/bs, you will see foxconn components like parallel ports and stuff like that. i am pretty sure they do a lot of oem work. o/c options were limited but price/performance/reliablility were all high :) i would use them again if i was building for somebody else, like a business where all they cared about was reliability, but wouldn't for a performance enthusiast.