Upgrading my mobo, CPU, and memory.

fuzzybabybunny

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You will run into problems.

After you get Vista up and running, before you validate Vista you're going to have to give MS a call and tell them that you changed your hardware. Technically you're only supposed to use the OEM version on one computer configuration, but MS is lax in enforcing this rule if you have a valid reason for changing hardware (ie. my motherboard died and they don't sell it anymore).
 

nerp

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You'll just need to speak to a rep. No biggie. As long as you can sleep at night. . . It's not like you're outright pirating here.
 

luigionlsd

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I've just told them, "yes, it's only installed on one computer" when they ask. I've never been asked whether it's a different computer, and if they do, just tell them you formatted your hard drive (which you did). They'll give you the next string of the activation sequence.
 

x26

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Get on your knees and beg them not to make you pay another $500.00...

Misery like this does not come cheap...
 

jonmcc33

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Originally posted by: BroadbandGamer
I'm running the OEM version of Vista Ultimate. Do you think I'm going to run into any problems?

Yes, according to the license of the OEM version. It's bound to that motherboard.
 

spyordie007

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Originally posted by: BroadbandGamer
I'm running the OEM version of Vista Ultimate. Do you think I'm going to run into any problems?
As per the license you agreed to you need to buy a new license when you 'upgrade' your hardware.

What you should have purchased is a retail license.
 

Fallen Kell

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This is why I picked up the non-OEM Vista Ultimate Upgrade. According to the license, technically, they can tell you that you are SOL.
 

fuzzybabybunny

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Originally posted by: Fallen Kell
This is why I picked up the non-OEM Vista Ultimate Upgrade. According to the license, technically, they can tell you that you are SOL.

But they won't.

I've done it three times and each time I succeeded on the first try. Or course, I don't use one copy on two or more different computers at the same time. It has always been used on only one computer at any one time, but that one computer has had different hardware configurations throughout the years.
 

Nothinman

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Originally posted by: fuzzybabybunny
Originally posted by: Fallen Kell
This is why I picked up the non-OEM Vista Ultimate Upgrade. According to the license, technically, they can tell you that you are SOL.

But they won't.

I've done it three times and each time I succeeded on the first try. Or course, I don't use one copy on two or more different computers at the same time. It has always been used on only one computer at any one time, but that one computer has had different hardware configurations throughout the years.

That doesn't mean it's legal.
 

Robor

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Originally posted by: Nothinman
Originally posted by: fuzzybabybunny
Originally posted by: Fallen Kell
This is why I picked up the non-OEM Vista Ultimate Upgrade. According to the license, technically, they can tell you that you are SOL.

But they won't.

I've done it three times and each time I succeeded on the first try. Or course, I don't use one copy on two or more different computers at the same time. It has always been used on only one computer at any one time, but that one computer has had different hardware configurations throughout the years.

That doesn't mean it's legal.

Yeah but in the grand scheme is it really that wrong - especially if you're honest and Microsoft is okay with it? I was running my retail WinXP Pro key on both my desktop and laptop at the same time. Both had valid WinXP Pro licenses but my laptop had only a restore partition that installed all of the IBM utilities along with XP. I wanted a 'clean' install so I just reused my desktop's retail key to install and when it failed activation I called Microsoft and told the rep the whole story. They asked if my IBM key was installed anywhere else and I said nope (it wasn't). They activated me no problem. Took all of 10 minutes. :)
 

Arkaign

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Yeah, I don't see what the problem is, he's not installing two copies of the OS, he's getting it back on his main system after replacing some obsolete components. At the most, he bought the OS less than a year ago, seems insane to make him buy another copy. But yeah, Retail is the way to go if you change hardware often.
 

bsobel

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Originally posted by: x26
Get on your knees and beg them not to make you pay another $500.00...

Misery like this does not come cheap...

Im starting you think your simply a troll. You've started 2 threads about how much you hate Vista when it's clear your running into a well known problem that isn't Vista's fault (blame nVidia). I even gave you a link to the workaround and your still whining.
 

homercles337

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Originally posted by: fuzzybabybunny
Originally posted by: Fallen Kell
This is why I picked up the non-OEM Vista Ultimate Upgrade. According to the license, technically, they can tell you that you are SOL.

But they won't.

I've done it three times and each time I succeeded on the first try. Or course, I don't use one copy on two or more different computers at the same time. It has always been used on only one computer at any one time, but that one computer has had different hardware configurations throughout the years.

I have also done this multiple times with OEM versions. Now if i can just get a 64-bit vpn client to work with MIT i could activate vista.
 

Nothinman

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Yeah but in the grand scheme is it really that wrong - especially if you're honest and Microsoft is okay with it?

There's a lot of bigger things to worry about in the grand scheme of things but this isn't about that. You received a discount on the license because you agreed to the restrictions that come with the OEM license, one of which is that the install is tied to the motherboard that you first install it with. Just because it's not easily enforceable or some of the phone guys don't really care doesn't mean that you should break your agreement. At that point you might as well just grab a keygen and WGA crack and not even worry about calling them.
 

homercles337

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Originally posted by: Nothinman
Yeah but in the grand scheme is it really that wrong - especially if you're honest and Microsoft is okay with it?

There's a lot of bigger things to worry about in the grand scheme of things but this isn't about that. You received a discount on the license because you agreed to the restrictions that come with the OEM license, one of which is that the install is tied to the motherboard that you first install it with. Just because it's not easily enforceable or some of the phone guys don't really care doesn't mean that you should break your agreement. At that point you might as well just grab a keygen and WGA crack and not even worry about calling them.

Gawd, i hate this holier than thou bullshit. Im pretty sure you confuse CI with stealing too. For the record i have had to replace multiple mobos on dells. Same system, should i have purchased a new OEM because a mobo failed? Please point out where in the EULA an OEM OS is directly tied to the mobo. Simply put, youre full of shit. If MS felt like you do, they would have said, "nope" when i an others called to activate.
 

mechBgon

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Originally posted by: homercles337
Originally posted by: Nothinman
Yeah but in the grand scheme is it really that wrong - especially if you're honest and Microsoft is okay with it?

There's a lot of bigger things to worry about in the grand scheme of things but this isn't about that. You received a discount on the license because you agreed to the restrictions that come with the OEM license, one of which is that the install is tied to the motherboard that you first install it with. Just because it's not easily enforceable or some of the phone guys don't really care doesn't mean that you should break your agreement. At that point you might as well just grab a keygen and WGA crack and not even worry about calling them.

Gawd, i hate this holier than thou bullshit. Im pretty sure you confuse CI with stealing too. For the record i have had to replace multiple mobos on dells. Same system, should i have purchased a new OEM because a mobo failed? Please point out where in the EULA an OEM OS is directly tied to the mobo. Simply put, youre full of shit. If MS felt like you do, they would have said, "nope" when i an others called to activate.

Nothinman is correct. As for your Dells, Microsoft's viewpoint is that if the original motherboard is replaced with another original because it failed, or if it is replaced with a similar one because the original failed and the original is not available, then your OEM license remains valid.

As for the original question:

Will I have to buy another copy of Vista Ultimate?

It appears that you are obligated to buy another license if you want to remain legit, yeah. If you'd like to recoup your cost, bundle your OEM Vista license with your old motherboard/CPU/memory, the Vista COA (and the case, assuming you adhered the COA to your case like you're supposed to) and the Vista DVD. Sell that as a bundle and the license remains good for the next user, because it's still with the core hardware it's "married" to. :thumbsup: Now you can spend the dinero on a new OEM or retail Vista license as desired. How's that sound :)