Upgrading from 2500XP to 3200XP

[forpey]

I'm currently running a 2500XP (1.8g) overclocked to 3200XP (2.2g).

Does overclocking genuienly improve the performace to that of a 3200? I seem to see only about 1-3fps difference in CS:S. Would buying a 3200XP see a massive performance gain?

I'm running the above with 1gb RAM and a 9800pro. I'm trying to fin out what is holding me back at the moment, CPU or GPU.

 

[StrangerGuy]

Don't do it. A real XP3200 is EXACTLY the same as a 2500+ OCed to 3200+.

 

[forpey]

Really?

Well I'm not sure I've oc'ed it right.

I increased the FSB to 200 and it does dectect it in Windows and the BIOS start up as a 3200XP. But do I need to do something with the vcore volts or something.

I can't remember any of this stuff.

 

[Allio]

Originally posted by: forpey
Really?

Well I'm not sure I've oc'ed it right.

I increased the FSB to 200 and it does dectect it in Windows and the BIOS start up as a 3200XP. But do I need to do something with the vcore volts or something.

I can't remember any of this stuff.

You only need to increase the volts if the method you just described fails. For all intents and purposes, you have an XP 3200+.

Save for an A64 3200+ if you want a performance gain

Edit: I would guess that you're GPU limited in CS:S.

 

[forpey]

Thanks.
That sounds right.

Shame, I love my 9800pro.

 

[rancherlee]

Even with a better AGP card like a X800XT or 6800GT you are still going to be GPU limited for the most part. A 2.2gig Athlon XP is plenty of chip to work with any AGP card out there currently.

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: rancherlee
Even with a better AGP card like a X800XT or 6800GT you are still going to be GPU limited for the most part. A 2.2gig Athlon XP is plenty of chip to work with any AGP card out there currently.

Excellent Post, well said!!

Too many peeps are mistaken in thier belief that CPU bottlenecking is a problem. It's all about the gfx card, and I'm glad to see a poster like rancherlee who knows the real truth :thumbsup:

To the OP - You're not likely to notice much difference between CPU speeds of the 2500+ & 3200+. I've run my 6800GT with my mobile Barton CPU set at both speeds and didn't notice a difference in games like FarCry and Doom3.

As far as increasing vcore (voltage to cpu), you only need to do that if your cpu is unstable at the OC speed (i.e., 3200+). Test for stability by running Prime95 overnight or even playing games.

Fern

 

[sangyup81]

actually the CPU is the bottleneck if we are talking about CS:S

you need to move onto socket 939

i get 100+ FPS with a 9800 pro and a winchester OC'ed to 2.565 GHz

 

[ELopes580]

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: rancherlee
Even with a better AGP card like a X800XT or 6800GT you are still going to be GPU limited for the most part. A 2.2gig Athlon XP is plenty of chip to work with any AGP card out there currently.

Excellent Post, well said!!

Too many peeps are mistaken in thier belief that CPU bottlenecking is a problem. It's all about the gfx card, and I'm glad to see a poster like rancherlee who knows the real truth :thumbsup:

To the OP - You're not likely to notice much difference between CPU speeds of the 2500+ & 3200+. I've run my 6800GT with my mobile Barton CPU set at both speeds and didn't notice a difference in games like FarCry and Doom3.

As far as increasing vcore (voltage to cpu), you only need to do that if your cpu is unstable at the OC speed (i.e., 3200+). Test for stability by running Prime95 overnight or even playing games.

Fern

I wouldn't say it is all graphic card. By that logic, I should be able to run a 6800U or X850TX on a P3 1GHz and it would perform the same on a P4 3.6GHz ( or an AMD FX-57 for you AMD fans )

 

[A5]

I'm moving on from my Socket A system (2500+) this Christmas, either to the 3200+ or X2 3800+ (hooray for suprises )...it's served me well.

 

[rancherlee]

Originally posted by: ELopes580

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: rancherlee
Even with a better AGP card like a X800XT or 6800GT you are still going to be GPU limited for the most part. A 2.2gig Athlon XP is plenty of chip to work with any AGP card out there currently.

Excellent Post, well said!!

Too many peeps are mistaken in thier belief that CPU bottlenecking is a problem. It's all about the gfx card, and I'm glad to see a poster like rancherlee who knows the real truth :thumbsup:

To the OP - You're not likely to notice much difference between CPU speeds of the 2500+ & 3200+. I've run my 6800GT with my mobile Barton CPU set at both speeds and didn't notice a difference in games like FarCry and Doom3.

As far as increasing vcore (voltage to cpu), you only need to do that if your cpu is unstable at the OC speed (i.e., 3200+). Test for stability by running Prime95 overnight or even playing games.

Fern

I wouldn't say it is all graphic card. By that logic, I should be able to run a 6800U or X850TX on a P3 1GHz and it would perform the same on a P4 3.6GHz ( or an AMD FX-57 for you AMD fans )

There definately is a sweet spot for each video card on how much processor you need to run it though and after that point you really don't gain much with a faster processor unless you like running at 640x480 @ 1000fps instead of 500fps. Of course there are a few games that like faster processor speeds though, but X800XT/6800GT cards seem to run best with only a 2.0 gig XP chip or faster. At graphics setting where you are really working the card hard you are only going to see a 5-10% difference in a A64 over an AXP setup.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Given you are already running 11x200mhz=2.2ghz=XP3200+, you'd do better to sell your 9800p and add the money to grab a sub $200 X800GTO and overclock it for a bang-for-buck upgrade for CS:S.

 

[Makaveli]

I disagree with most of u and suggesting a Athlon XP to power a X800XT or 6800 series card. I saw huge gains going to athlon 64 from a xP3200 with a X800XTPE. CS S has a huge bottleneck on Athlon Xp's. that game showed me the biggest improvement out of them all. And i'm not just talking about Frame rate only. also how smooth games run, and the minimum framerate, where u will notice it getting choppy was much higher.