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ToySoldier

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Don't waste your time with SSD Raid0. It's complete snake oil and is SLOWER than simply buying a faster SSD in the first place. The RAID array adds latency which is one of the primary drivers of SSD's perceived performance. If you want faster SSDs then get a PCI-e based one on the latest controller when the time comes.

Yes... excellent point. The recent article on Anandtech details possible support for this on the upcoming motherboards.
 

TemjinGold

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Don't waste your time with SSD Raid0. It's complete snake oil and is SLOWER than simply buying a faster SSD in the first place. The RAID array adds latency which is one of the primary drivers of SSD's perceived performance. If you want faster SSDs then get a PCI-e based one on the latest controller when the time comes.

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Haswell-E may not be worth the premium either if you're just gaming. You don't need to spend anywhere near $5k for a dream system to run this game.
 

24601

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100% chance Maxwell/Pirate Islands will be out before Vaporware Citizen comes out.
 

ToySoldier

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+1

Haswell-E may not be worth the premium either if you're just gaming. You don't need to spend anywhere near $5k for a dream system to run this game.

Even if I'm using a 32" 4K (1.2a compliant) monitor and playing Star Citizen @ MAX (Ultra) graphics?
 

cytg111

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youll know a whole lot more once you get to play the beta .. core scaling, graphics etc. (the demo though does not look that demanding)
 

ToySoldier

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youll know a whole lot more once you get to play the beta .. core scaling, graphics etc. (the demo though does not look that demanding)

True but between (4K - 1.2a) and Mantle I may balance a second 4K monitor at Ultra (Max) settings if I have enough juice. with a little luck, perhaps a third 4K monitor.

The 'In-Game' graphics looks pretty demanding imo... it is using a modified version of CryEngine (4th Generation)

Plus they will be up-scaling as they develop the game.


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cytg111

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defn. wait for it, with 3x4k displays you're looking at something like tri-fire or 3-way SLI with current gen cards. You simply dont gave enough information yet to even make a semi qualified guesstimate..

minimum specs : Core2Duo, 480GTX ? "modified crysis" allright. Did crysis 3 run proper on anything Core? Dual?

Anyway, it looks to be an amazing game when/if it becomes a reality.. But I must say that my fishy-radar is acting up, too many things too good to be true, np free lunch etc.. I wouldnt be too surprised if they just took the money and split. (im a born pessimist, so take it at that).
 

24601

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The game runs on CryEngine 4 (Same engine Ryse, etc is on).

There is Zero chance you will be able to max the game @ >60 fps minimum @ 4k with 2x 290x crossfire/2x 780 Ti SLI, let alone 2x 4k or more displays.
 

cytg111

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The game runs on CryEngine 4 (Same engine Ryse, etc is on).

There is Zero chance you will be able to max the game @ >60 fps minimum @ 4k with 2x 290x crossfire/2x 780 Ti SLI, let alone 2x 4k or more displays.

CryEngine 3 right? 4th gen is like not 4th but instead all-out caps CRYENGINE.
 

24601

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coulda sworn i'd read it was based on 3rd gen .. oki, my bad.

It's because they didn't brand CRYENGINE yet.

the CRYENGINE thing is just denoting that the games made with it are not backwards compatible to DX10, and using the full feature set of DX11 at game design phase, instead of doing DX10 feature set and adding DX11 features as fluff, which is what any game does if it also has a launch on last gen consoles.

The side effect of this (if they are going Crytek first party dev quality) will be massive VRAM usage, since it will have non-neutered geometry and texture resolution.

The reason Ryse looks so crazy good (far better than any PC game ever) is because of the 100% drop of legacy compatibility combined with a concerted effort to use as much of the Xbox One's VRAM as possible.
 

blackened23

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Sounds like this belongs in the PC gaming sub-forum eh?

Bottom line is this.

Don't ever upgrade for a beta. Upgrading for a beta is just LOL. I'm thinking of some of the betas i've been in, and have fun with that. The only polished betas are by blizzard. Everything else? Yeah, upgrading for a beta, have fun with that.

Same concept for upgrading for a game two years away. And upgrading for 4k times three? Huh? Is that imminent for you? Just curious.

If you're talking about gameplay itself, that seems to lend itself to the massive Star Citizen thread already in progress in the PC gaming forum. You should check it out, because it's on topic there and not quite so much here.
 
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ToySoldier

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There is a fine line between discussing PC gaming and it's correlation to video cards enabling those graphics.... Especially when it deals with the latest CryENGINE.
 

blackened23

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If you think upgrading for something years away or a beta is a wise idea, i'm going to tell you it's not, but you do what you do by all means. Especially a beta. I could discuss some of the horrible betas i've been in. Even the BF3 beta was quite frankly, a piece of crap with performance literally 1/4th of what the final product was. Amazing how much more optimized the final release is. And that is why I say..upgrading for a beta. Yeah, worst idea ever.. And BF3 was polished compared to most betas.

Gameplay isn't discussed so much here, but GPU stuff, yeah. But then again, we know nothing about the GPU situation two years from now. We know nothing about how 4k times 3 would work for you 2 years from now. So i'm just confused to say the least. But, whatever.
 

TemjinGold

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True but between (4K - 1.2a) and Mantle I may balance a second 4K monitor at Ultra (Max) settings if I have enough juice. with a little luck, perhaps a third 4K monitor.

The 'In-Game' graphics looks pretty demanding imo... it is using a modified version of CryENGINE 3.

Plus they will be upscaling as much as they develop the game.


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Then you definitely don't want to buy anything now because nothing that's out GPU-wise will allow you to do that. And yes, Haswell-E isn't going to help you more than normal old Haswell enough to justify the difference in price.
 

ToySoldier

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Then you definitely don't want to buy anything now because nothing that's out GPU-wise will allow you to do that. And yes, Haswell-E isn't going to help you more than normal old Haswell enough to justify the difference in price.

Especially since I was corrected earlier in this thread that Star Citizen will be using CryEngine 4th generation versus 3rd. Wow... it will be fun 'upscaling' my future build the closer it gets to BETA time.
 

Revolution 11

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I will add to the bandwagon, wait for Star Citizen to come out and drivers to optimize for it before you decide. That is if you are waiting just for this game.

I will be upgrading myself for either Witcher 3 or Cyberpunk 2077, whichever game requires the upgrade.