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Upgrade to XP or not? Is it worth the hassle??

John P

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(Mods locked this in the General Hardware forum so I guess I'll try it here.)

I have the following system running Win98SE (I posted this before in a multiquestion thread but nobody responded):

Abit KT7
Geforce2 MX400
Soundblaster Live Value
Studio DV PCI Firewire card
Netgear PCI NIC
Hollywood+ DVD Card
ATI TV Wonder card
ISA Scanner card for HP5P

The system is running flawlessly right now. I use it mainly for gaming and video editing. I recently purchased WinXP Pro. Is it worth the hassle to upgrade and risk messing up my delicately balanced system (if it ain't broke don't fix it)? I only say this because it took so much work tweaking and moving cards around, etc... to get everything working together properly.
 

JellyBaby

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Go for it if you need XP stability otherwise just wait until your next major hardware upgrade.
 

Ryan

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YOur hardware might be holding you back if you do. As I said earlier - just wait and upgrade in conjunction when you intall a new mobo, cpu, and video card :)
 

John P

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I was thinking the same thing.

I was also thinking of upgrading to a TBird 1.3 or 1.4g 200FSB from my TBird 750 instead of upgrading the mb and wait until next year for the major upgrade. As you can see from my signature the KT7 mb will eventually just bump the 400 celery on the Tekram mb machine, so I will want to max out the CPU on the KT7 in the future anyway.
 

Willoughbyva

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Well with XP you would have the option of NTFS which is good for large file sizes. On the other hand you would have to see if all the XP drivers for you digital video stuff will work correctly. Some say that if it ain't broke don't fix it. You could always do a dual boot.


Will
 

jdm

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Upgrade when Win98 starts crashing too much.

I upgraded to XP because the Win98 I had crashed at least 6 times a day and frequently froze while booting (and this is after reinstalling less than 2 months ago). I didn't like the compatibility of XP but it was better than booting 12 times a day (many bootups fail) and wearing out my comp (not to mention the time consumed).

After installing XP I restored all my apps and other junk (I was probably straining Win98 with all the apps and progs that run on startup). Except for some problems with DivX 4.11 (NT blue screen of death, problem fixed in DivX 4.12), XP has NEVER crashed in the last 2 months. It's a pretty nice OS.
 

kursplat

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how 'bout pick up a cheap 2nd hard drive. install XP on it and try out all you stuff...?
 

thevillageinn

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no...it's not worth the hassle, especially if you have a working system. Keep it working...don't upgrade.

Maybe consider an upgrade when you upgrade your hardware...but wait for better drivers, more stability, fixed "fast user switching" and maybe a service pack or two

it's really not worth the eye candy...and 10-30 seconds quicker boot? how many times do you re-boot anyway?
 

Lord Evermore

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Just set up a dual boot. The OS doesn't hard code your hardware settings, so if XP has some problems and the IRQ's don't seem to work right off or something doesn't work the way you need it to, you can fall back to 98 and it'll work exactly as it did before, and you can work on getting XP working properly if possible. (A second partition or hard drive for the XP install would be preferred, with all your apps reinstalled specificly for XP, but installing to a different directory on the same partition will work.)

One thing you may have issues with, XP does not support non-plug-n-play ISA cards. You may need a new SCSI card for your scanner.

Another issue is the drivers for the TV Wonder for XP aren't that great. There's one issue where the TV viewing is corrupt in some configurations (it looks sort of like an un-descrambled cable channel, but worse), and to fix it you have to change your desktop color depth from 32bit to 16bit and then back (or vice versa) to correct it, every time you run the TV app. Or update your display drivers according to ATI, but since I am running the newest drivers, that obviously doesn't always work.

Your applications may also limit whether you'll want to upgrade. Not everything is compatible with XP, even stuff that works in 2k may not work in XP (more due to the makers not wanting to patch them than there actually being major differences in the two).

XP is a tad faster for me, and so far less crash-prone. (My 98SE install was reasonably stable, I didn't generally crash unless I was actively doing something with a high chance of crashing it, and usually it just caused explorer.exe to restart. I have similar problems with 2k doing that at work, where I installed and configured it on my workstation myself. So far though I don't think I've managed to make XP actually crash, though I have had minor bugs which were most likely due to application bugs, not XP itself.) I haven't yet tried gaming.

If you do decide to use XP, do NOT do an upgrade. Do a clean install, whether you wipe the system and start fresh or do a dual-boot install. Upgrading Windows OSes always seems to work, but it leaves cruft behind that in the end does make it less stable.

I have to wonder how legal this copy you bought from your friend is. What division does he work at that allows him to take copies of XP home and sell it to his friends for less than retail? And can I get one? :)


As to the fast-user-switching, how many people really use that so far? Unless you have multiple people using the machine, just turn it off. (For some reason I couldn't find any way to LOCK my machine until I disabled fast user switching and made it so I have to enter a password to log on, which wasn't available with the "pretty" logon screen.) As for the eye-candy, if you disable all of it, the OS is faster than 98SE. Obviously if you leave it turned on, it's going to slow the system down, that's why the requirements are so high. The eye-candy isn't why I decided to start using XP.

Keep in mind also that 98SE will be completely unsupported very soon. Meaning no security updates. (If you're using IE6 MS may make it still possible to update security issues in that, but I wouldn't be surprised if they make it so that anyone running 98SE can't install any new security updates, meaning if you try to use WindowsUpdate or to download a patch by itself.)
 

John P

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I was thinking about perhaps taking my slave 40gb and loading WinXP on it to see how it works. Then leave Win98SE on my current main 27g and throw in an old 8g drive as slave to store video on temporarily. Then just swap the cables back and forth until I get a working Win XP. Decisions, decisions....

 

usual_suspect

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I know your question was xp vs. 98se but I posted a similar thread about xp pro vs. win2K pro here

XP has some bugs which are annoying yes, but not a reason for me to avoid xp. I have installed xp pro on 3 systems, (mine, and my parents) but decided not to get it for my soon to be dual athlon system. Mainly for these two reasons:

-I can't ghost an xp install without getting the hardware config error screen, basically MS telling me I just did a no-no by installing on two systems when all I did was buy a new hard drive.

-The benchmark in the above listed thread which puts win2k pro performance far ahead of xp pro performance.