upgrade to a AMD 7750 black or 5050e?

[DuffmanOhYeah]

So this machine belongs to my girlfriend. SHe's had it for several years, and runs mostly firefox, Media Center, SPSS and run of the mill office programs.

I believe the motherboard is an AM2, so does that preclude the 7750 from the gate?

In there right now is a 3500+, so I think both would be a substantial upgrade, but wanted to ask people here for advice.

The pros of the 5050 are that is runs at less power and therefore cooler. I think that it should also run at close to the same speed as the 7750 if not OC'd (which it wont be)

The pros of the 7750 are the speed, but really, it wont be run at anything but stock, so should I even care?

I'd appreciate any and all input.

Thanks

 

[Flipped Gazelle]

The 7750 only requires an AM2 board.

The 4850e is just $54 w/free shipping @ Newegg, and is only 100mhz slower than the more expensive 5050e.

My g/f has a 4850e in her PC. She uses it quite a bit, and appreciates how quiet her system is.

 

[Andrew1990]

Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle
The 7750 only requires an AM2 board.

The 4850e is just $54 w/free shipping @ Newegg, and is only 100mhz slower than the more expensive 5050e.

My g/f has a 4850e in her PC. She uses it quite a bit, and appreciates how quiet her system is.

Well if he can use a Kuma, then this is an even better deal. If the code still works, it will be less than a dollar more.

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2283478&enterthread=y

 

[Flipped Gazelle]

Originally posted by: Andrew1990

Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle
The 7750 only requires an AM2 board.

The 4850e is just $54 w/free shipping @ Newegg, and is only 100mhz slower than the more expensive 5050e.

My g/f has a 4850e in her PC. She uses it quite a bit, and appreciates how quiet her system is.

Well if he can use a Kuma, then this is an even better deal. If the code still works, it will be less than a dollar more.

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2283478&enterthread=y

I tried the code, and it works!

95w for an X2 bugs me, though, especially since in many cases it doesn't outperform the 45w 4850e by all that much. Maybe I'm just being grumpy.

 

[hans007]

a 2 year old board is much less likely to have bios support for a kuma core.


the 5050e is much more likely to actually work if that machine is indeed an am2 machine.

 

[DuffmanOhYeah]

@FG Yeah, I agree that 95W is kind of high. Thats why I was originally thinking 5050e. Now I'll have to check out the 4850e too. Thx

@Hans And in particular being an off the shelf machine, I'm unaware if the board is likely to have bios upgradeability.

I'm kind of thinking that the 7750 jsut may not be worth it.

ANy kind of idea how much more performance either the 4850 or the 5050 (and whats the difference between the two?) will net over a 3500+?

 

[Flipped Gazelle]

Originally posted by: DuffmanOhYeah
@FG Yeah, I agree that 95W is kind of high. Thats why I was originally thinking 5050e. Now I'll have to check out the 4850e too. Thx

@Hans And in particular being an off the shelf machine, I'm unaware if the board is likely to have bios upgradeability.

I'm kind of thinking that the 7750 jsut may not be worth it.

ANy kind of idea how much more performance either the 4850 or the 5050 (and whats the difference between the two?) will net over a 3500+?

The only difference between the 4850 & 5050 is that the 5050 is 100mhz faster.

Performance improvement over a single-core 3500+ is a bunch.

 

[Rick James]

Had a 7750, Hated it. Went to a E5400, kicked the shit out of the kuma in performance.

 

[Flipped Gazelle]

Originally posted by: Rick James
Had a 7750, Hated it. Went to a E5400, kicked the shit out of the kuma in performance.

What does that have to do with the OP's question?

 

[cusideabelincoln]

You better be sure the motherboard is AM2 before you start making any kind of plans to buy an AM2 processor.

 

[Flipped Gazelle]

Originally posted by: cusideabelincoln
You better be sure the motherboard is AM2 before you start making any kind of plans to buy an AM2 processor.

I Googled the model #, it takes DDR2, so it's AM2.

Good thought, though.

 

[DuffmanOhYeah]

Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle

Originally posted by: cusideabelincoln
You better be sure the motherboard is AM2 before you start making any kind of plans to buy an AM2 processor.

I Googled the model #, it takes DDR2, so it's AM2.

Good thought, though.

Yeah, I had looked that p earlier, and was surprised to see it, as both previous and later iterations of those eMachines used socket 939 mobos. SO to have this kind of upgrade path is both surprising and a real benefit. For like $250 after rebates three or so years ago, it sure hasn't given us anything to complain about.

 

[AstroManLuca]

FYI, my motherboard does not support the Kuma even though it is AM2 (not even with a BIOS update). It's a DFI Infinity NF570. Maybe it's because I'm using an older chipset (nForce 570), but either way, AM2 doesn't necessarily mean Kuma support.

Besides, the Kuma is overrated anyway. Just the the 4850e. Guaranteed compatibility and lower power requirements.

 

[waffleironhead]

Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle

Originally posted by: Rick James
Had a 7750, Hated it. Went to a E5400, kicked the shit out of the kuma in performance.

What does that have to do with the OP's question?

Havn't you noticed, he is an intel shill.

 

[AstroManLuca]

Originally posted by: waffleironhead

Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle

Originally posted by: Rick James
Had a 7750, Hated it. Went to a E5400, kicked the shit out of the kuma in performance.

What does that have to do with the OP's question?

Havn't you noticed, he is an intel shill.

However, even the lowest-end Core 2 chips (the E5x00s) still match or beat the very fastest Athlon X2s in pretty much everything, and they have overclock potential too. He might be a shill, but in this case he's right. However, Gazelle is also right; this has very little to do with the subject at hand since it's not worth it to buy a whole new motherboard as well.

 

[hans007]

Originally posted by: AstroManLuca

Originally posted by: waffleironhead

Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle

Originally posted by: Rick James
Had a 7750, Hated it. Went to a E5400, kicked the shit out of the kuma in performance.

What does that have to do with the OP's question?

Havn't you noticed, he is an intel shill.

However, even the lowest-end Core 2 chips (the E5x00s) still match or beat the very fastest Athlon X2s in pretty much everything, and they have overclock potential too. He might be a shill, but in this case he's right. However, Gazelle is also right; this has very little to do with the subject at hand since it's not worth it to buy a whole new motherboard as well.

well a kuma 7750 is probably equivalent in speed to a e4700 or maybe an e5200 even.

its not as fast asn an e5400, but i wouldnt necessarily say it gets the shit kicked out of it.