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StarsFan4Life

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Is it time for an upgrade of any sort on the specs below?

* Antec Three Hundred Case
* Gigabyte GA-MA790X-UD4P motherboard
* AMD Phenom II Quad Core 940 Black Edition - Stock cooling
* 8GB G-Skill PC2-6400
* XFX Radeon 4870 1GB
* Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB SATA II
* Western Digital Caviar Black 640GB SATAII
* Onboard LAN/HD Audio
* Logitech DiNovo Keyboard
* Logitech MX 518
* 2 X Yate Loon 120mm silent case fans
* 2 X Dell" S2309 W @ 1900 x 1080
* Windows 7 64-bit

I play Battlefield: Bad Company 2 and that is about it. I do some HD encoding as well.
 
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Insomniator

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Its only time for an upgrade if you are not happy with the current performance. If you are asking me if a 980x and SLI'd GTX 480's would provide a significant improvement, yes they would.
 
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Eh, you have a crossfire motherboard and a 4870. I would just grab another one for ~100$ and have 5870 performance for less.
 
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Up to a 5770 for now, and cross them in the future if you need the performance. You can snag a used/sale 5770 for ~130.
 
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That is definitely a bad buy. The 4870 and 5770 are so close there's no way it's worth it.

However, a crossfire set of 4870s would give you 5870 performance, but would also entail all the issues that come with crossfire, like heat, energy consumption, game-dependant scaling, and microstutter.
 
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ModestGamer

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Sp12 said:
That is definitely a bad buy. The 4870 and 5770 are so close there's no way it's worth it.

However, a crossfire set of 4870s would give you 5870 performance, but would also entail all the issues that come with crossfire, like heat, energy consumption, game-dependant scaling, and microstutter.
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5770 performs better on average then the 4870. it also support dx11.
 
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ModestGamer said:
5770 performs better on average then the 4870. it also support dx11.
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Yeah, but no more than 10%. It makes no sense to spend 130$ for a 10% improvement when another 4870 for 100$ will get you ~80/90% more performance. Also, by the time DX11 actually improves game IQ and is widespread, the 5770 will in no way be able to push those features at decent framerates.
 
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Sp12 said:
Yeah, but no more than 10%. It makes no sense to spend 130$ for a 10% improvement when another 4870 for 100$ will get you ~80/90% more performance. Also, by the time DX11 actually improves game IQ and is widespread, the 5770 will in no way be able to push those features at decent framerates.
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I disagree a bit here. dirt 2 plays very well on the hd 5770. Nearly 60fps at almost all times on my machine. I am running it in dx11 and the game looks and plays great. I often find alot of benchmark info to be a bit misleading as the benchmarks are geared towards companys A and not company B.
 
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mfenn

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ModestGamer said:
I disagree a bit here. dirt 2 plays very well on the hd 5770. Nearly 60fps at almost all times on my machine. I am running it in dx11 and the game looks and plays great. I often find alot of benchmark info to be a bit misleading as the benchmarks are geared towards companys A and not company B.
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Right, but notice Sp12 said "by the time DX11 actually improves game IQ" (i.e. developers heavily utilize DX11 features). He wasn't referring to the game just using the DX11 rendering path.
 
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Many members on this forum seem to believe that a 5770 is a solid gaming card. That however is not the case - that card is average AT BEST. In my opinion that card should not be used on any resolution larger than 1600x900.

OP that build seems less than a year old...why are you even thinking about upgrading?
 
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Patrickz0rs said:
Many members on this forum seem to believe that a 5770 is a solid gaming card. That however is not the case - that card is average AT BEST. In my opinion that card should not be used on any resolution larger than 1600x900.

OP that build seems less than a year old...why are you even thinking about upgrading?
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http://www.hardocp.com/article/2009/10/12/amd_ati_radeon_hd_5770_5750_review/6

The 5770 will not get you 60 frames at 1920, in Crysis it doesn't even get 30. However, for 1680*1050 it provides an excellent game experience with 30+ FPS in all current games, often with AA/AF. It has low power draw and is cool running. If those two points aren't a big deal for you, get a used 4870 for comparable performance for less.

I'll quote you this form the Batman AA page:

Once again, we find ourselves being able to run at 2560x1600 No AA with the highest in-game settings on the Radeon HD 5770. Our average framerate was a high 41 FPS and our minimum never dropped below 30 FPS.
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I'd also like to remind you this review is from October, and there has been moderate performance increases with subsequent driver releases.
 
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Sp12 said:
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2009/10/12/amd_ati_radeon_hd_5770_5750_review/6

The 5770 will not get you 60 frames at 1920, in Crysis it doesn't even get 30. However, for 1680*1050 it provides an excellent game experience with 30+ FPS in all current games, often with AA/AF. It has low power draw and is cool running. If those two points aren't a big deal for you, get a used 4870 for comparable performance for less.

I'll quote you this form the Batman AA page:



I'd also like to remind you this review is from October, and there has been moderate performance increases with subsequent driver releases.
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Skip the 5770 and go to the 5850. Just like buying a monitor; skip 1680 and go into 1920.

OP says he only plays Bad Company 2. The 4870 does better than a 5770 on high, medium, and low settings @ 1920.

http://www.techspot.com/article/255-battlefield-bad-company2-performance/page5.html

Why would he downgrade? To get DX11? The 5770 is fail in my opinion (not as much as the 5830 fail) but if you are going to bite on DX11 go 5850 or go home.
 
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Patrickz0rs said:
Skip the 5770 and go to the 5850. Just like buying a monitor; skip 1680 and go into 1920.

OP says he only plays Bad Company 2. The 4870 does better than a 5770 on high, medium, and low settings @ 1920.

http://www.techspot.com/article/255-battlefield-bad-company2-performance/page5.html

Why would he downgrade? To get DX11? The 5770 is fail in my opinion (not as much as the 5830 fail) but if you are going to bite on DX11 go 5850 or go home.
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Erm... I think you are a bit behind on this thread. We've already had this discussion. Sp12 himself said "That is definitely a bad buy. The 4870 and 5770 are so close there's no way it's worth it."

The OP is also already running at 1080P.
 
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