Upgrade now or wait for Skylake??

[Justinbaileyman]

Was looking at Z97 mobo's and ran across this one which I really like.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...yMark=False&IsFeedbackTab=true#scrollFullInfo

I was thinking maybe I should just go ahead and upgrade now and get the 4790K and the above mobo or should I just hold out till Aug-Sept for Skylake-K ? I Love the orange color scheme of this board and the price is right right this very second but that could chance in the next couple days or so when the deal breaks. If I wait will they have a OC-Force version for the new 1151 Socket? Also how much better is a 6700K really going to be over a 4790K? I really have the upgrade itch bad right now and just dont know what I should do.I understand the Skylake route will be more future proof but didnt the 4790K just come out recently as well??what would you guys do??

 

[Soulkeeper]

I think this is purely a personal choice.
If you need to upgrade now then i'd say yes, otherwise I dunno.

An august release could mean 5+ months before everything is readily available

 

[h4rm0ny]

Was looking at Z97 mobo's and ran across this one which I really like.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...yMark=False&IsFeedbackTab=true#scrollFullInfo

I was thinking maybe I should just go ahead and upgrade now and get the 4790K and the above mobo or should I just hold out till Aug-Sept for Skylake-K ? I Love the orange color scheme of this board and the price is right right this very second but that could chance in the next couple days or so when the deal breaks. If I wait will they have a OC-Force version for the new 1151 Socket? Also how much better is a 6700K really going to be over a 4790K? I really have the upgrade itch bad right now and just dont know what I should do.I understand the Skylake route will be more future proof but didnt the 4790K just come out recently as well??what would you guys do??

I personally would wait... but then I have no pressing need to upgrade right now. What are your actual needs? Are you a gamer, a programmer, spend your day posting on Anandtech forums?

If for example, you're a gamer, then the 4790K is probably going to be adequate to your needs for a good long time to come and you'll be better off ploughing any upgrade money into better GPU. Without knowing your needs, advice is impossible.

 

[aaksheytalwar]

What do you have right now?

 

[scannall]

1150 is a dead socket. Anything you buy for it now won't be able to be carried forward. Upgrading on impulse is usually a bad idea. It's April already, so go out and enjoy the spring. And halfway through the summer new toys will be available. From all indications Skylake will be a decent, if not awe inspiring upgrade from Haswell.

Was looking at Z97 mobo's and ran across this one which I really like.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...yMark=False&IsFeedbackTab=true#scrollFullInfo

I was thinking maybe I should just go ahead and upgrade now and get the 4790K and the above mobo or should I just hold out till Aug-Sept for Skylake-K ? I Love the orange color scheme of this board and the price is right right this very second but that could chance in the next couple days or so when the deal breaks. If I wait will they have a OC-Force version for the new 1151 Socket? Also how much better is a 6700K really going to be over a 4790K? I really have the upgrade itch bad right now and just dont know what I should do.I understand the Skylake route will be more future proof but didnt the 4790K just come out recently as well??what would you guys do??

 

[ShintaiDK]

You can only answer that question yourself.

Skylake looks to be august 15th.

 

[Idontcare]

I would wait, and not just because then you'll be able to buy Skylake but rather because if you wait then you'll be able to snag yourself some new or used Haswell stuff on the cheap as people will be looking to upgrade their own rigs or dumping existing Haswell inventory.

 

[Justinbaileyman]

I have a 760K overclocked to 5.0GHz and recently purchased a A10-7850K I was going to be upgrading to, but changed my mind so its sitting sealed up in the original Newegg box it came in along side a brand new mobo and ddr3 2400 also in there sealed Newegg box as well.The reason I want an upgrade is I do Video and Audio Ripping,Encoding/Converting and the Intel 4790K is close to 3 times faster then my current set up and gets closer to 3.5 times faster if I were to overclock that 4790K to 4.5Ghz vs. my 760K@ 5.0Ghz.
I don't really game on my PC that much and use my Xbox One and 360 for gaming.
Although I do own a few PC games like Alien Isolation,Tomb Raider,and Dirt 3 but only played them a handful of times.
So from what it sounds like I should just wait another couple of months here and get Skylake-K.
I guess that makes sense but its killing me to have to wait all the way to Aug 15th for an upgrade.

 

[coolpurplefan]

It depends how you want to interpret the benchmarks. There are some here: http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2428363
(although these are leaked)

 

[Justinbaileyman]

I know I have been watching that post like a hawk. I just cant believe a 6700K Quad Core is matching a 5820K Six Core. This is going to be one hell of a cpu if this is all true.

 

[Arachnotronic]

I know I have been watching that post like a hawk. I just cant believe a 6700K Quad Core is matching a 5820K Six Core. This is going to be one hell of a cpu if this is all true.

The 5820K is clocked pretty modestly compared to the 6700K, so it makes a lot of sense.

 

[scannall]

The 5820K is clocked pretty modestly compared to the 6700K, so it makes a lot of sense.

The 6700k is likely an engineering sample. So while it is a good indicator of performance, we won't know exactly until it's shipping and gets run through some benchmarks then.

 

[Subyman]

If you already have a sizable amount of DDR3 (16GB+) then you may want to slide into Haswell instead of having to purchase new DDR4. That would be a $150+ savings. As we've seen in the past, I'd be surprised if the performance boost was any more than 10%.

 

[Ajay]

You've waited this long, wait a bit longer for Skylake. You'll be stepping into the most advanced CPU/mobo at the moment and won't likely need to upgrade any time soon. IMHO.

 

[Justinbaileyman]

Yeah I think I can wait it out its only another 4 long summer months to go LOL. This will give me time to save up for some better and more premium parts plus a larger amount of DDR4.Whats the standard amount for memory going to be for this next gen still 16GB or should I go 32-64GB?? Also I forgot to ask but is there going to be a increase in performance via the integrated graphics vs. whats on the 4790K?

 

[RaistlinZ]

The 5820K is clocked pretty modestly compared to the 6700K, so it makes a lot of sense.

Yup. At equal clock speed I'd expect the single-threaded performance of the 6700K to be 5-10% better at most. Multi-threaded, the 5820K will still win substantially at equal clock speeds.

 

[MongGrel]

You've waited this long, wait a bit longer for Skylake. You'll be stepping into the most advanced CPU/mobo at the moment and won't likely need to upgrade any time soon. IMHO.

+1

 

[Arachnotronic]

Yup. At equal clock speed I'd expect the single-threaded performance of the 6700K to be 5-10% better at most. Multi-threaded, the 5820K will still win substantially at equal clock speeds.

How far can the 5820K typically be pushed with a modest air cooler like the Hyper 212 EVO?

 

[calyco]

I would wait, and not just because then you'll be able to buy Skylake but rather because if you wait then you'll be able to snag yourself some new or used Haswell stuff on the cheap as people will be looking to upgrade their own rigs or dumping existing Haswell inventory.

I am in similar position op and think I will do what Idontcare recommended. Either way you can decide then since Haswell prices are gonna fall anyway, if you are not in a rush to upgrade. My specs are old with a Phenom II 955 and GTX 650. In the mean time, I might grab something like a 970 to scratch the itch, then wait for Skylake.

 

[frozentundra123456]

It depends how you want to interpret the benchmarks. There are some here: http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2428363
(although these are leaked)

Finally figured it out, I knew something was bothering me about those graphs. You have to look at the actual numbers to get the true measure of the increase. The bars on the first graph are not even close to being drawn to scale. The numbers for the 5820k and 6700k should be almost to the next vertical line, ie, 12000. The other graphs look properly drawn to scale.

 

[Enigmoid]

Yup. At equal clock speed I'd expect the single-threaded performance of the 6700K to be 5-10% better at most. Multi-threaded, the 5820K will still win substantially at equal clock speeds.

Broadwell already brings a 5.5% IPC increase. So I have no clue how the low end of your estimate is possible unless skylake brings 0 IPC gain.

 

[alcoholbob]

Depends on the resolution you play too. If it's 1440P or 4K I doubt you will notice a difference between CPU platforms.

 

[Ajay]

Depends on the resolution you play too. If it's 1440P or 4K I doubt you will notice a difference between CPU platforms.

Yes, but there are more things to a new platform than FPS.

 

[2is]

1150 is a dead socket. Anything you buy for it now won't be able to be carried forward. Upgrading on impulse is usually a bad idea. It's April already, so go out and enjoy the spring. And halfway through the summer new toys will be available. From all indications Skylake will be a decent, if not awe inspiring upgrade from Haswell.

I don't see this as much of an issue on an Intel platform unless you're initially going with a lower end processor that you plan on upgrading to a higher end one before too long.

If you upgrade during a TOCK cycle, you have another generation of CPU's to look forward to that can still be used with your existing board. If however you go with an i5 or an i7, there is little benefit to upgrading to an i5 or i7 of the next gen CPU, and after that the socket changes anyway.