Hello everyone, I am new to forums (although I have been reading them for years) I have never joined one before. I am hoping for a little advice here. I want to upgrade my graphics card with noticable differences. I have a 9800 Pro 128mb card. Would the 6600GT be a wise choice or not? Thanks.
Upgrade from 9800 Pro?
- Thread starter leonmac73
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It depends on what you play. For some games a 6600gt will give you improvements, but it would be a much better upgrade to go for a 6800gt if you've got the money.
What games are you running that need the little extra oomph a 6600gt would give? My computers fairly modest and I can run Halflife 2@1280x1024 w/9800pro, also runs Rome Total War @1024x768 w/ 2x AA, I havent found a game it cant run well. Just curious to know what game you need a new card to run right now, because if you dont need it for right now its always better to wait.
I see what you are saying, I want to run games like Modern Air Combat, and NFSU, and NFSU2.
My system specs are: Athlon 64 4000+, 1Gig (512x2) DDR400 dual channel, Abit AV8 Pro mobo 2ghz system bus, 80Gig WD 8 meg buffer primary, 120g slave. Aspire Turbo 500Watt psu, Thermaltake Venus 12 HSF, Soundblaster Live 5.1,
As you can see I just rebuilt my system, I do this every 9-12 months. I did not upgrade my graphics card this time (it was $400). So you are saying that I would see a noticeable difference with just a plane Jane 6800? I noticed the 6800s are running a slower GPU and memory than the 6600s, but it performs better? Is it the pipeline? Thanks for your help everyone.
My system specs are: Athlon 64 4000+, 1Gig (512x2) DDR400 dual channel, Abit AV8 Pro mobo 2ghz system bus, 80Gig WD 8 meg buffer primary, 120g slave. Aspire Turbo 500Watt psu, Thermaltake Venus 12 HSF, Soundblaster Live 5.1,
As you can see I just rebuilt my system, I do this every 9-12 months. I did not upgrade my graphics card this time (it was $400). So you are saying that I would see a noticeable difference with just a plane Jane 6800? I noticed the 6800s are running a slower GPU and memory than the 6600s, but it performs better? Is it the pipeline? Thanks for your help everyone.
I want to go ahead and upgrade, still a little sceptic about the plain 6800's slower GPU. I am just wondering is there anything out there signifantly better that the 9800 Pro worth upgrading too. Thanks.
Dont go 6800 non ultra. It is 20% faster then the 9800 pro at most. I would not go for anything slower then an X800XL or 6800GT when upgrading from a 9800 pro, otherwise it wont be worth it.
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I upgraded from a 9800 Pro to an X800 Pro and even on my NF2 Ultra system I noticed a significant increase in performance. On your rig (very nice btw) you'd get even more bang, your CPU is hampered by the 9800 Pro at higher resolutions, especially if you crank up AA/AF.
With a system like yours, I wouldn't go less than 6800GT/X800 Pro.
With a system like yours, I wouldn't go less than 6800GT/X800 Pro.
I upgraded from a 9800 Pro to 6800 GT. The stuttering in Halo is completely gone. I definitely noticed a difference. I would say don't bother upgrading unless you observe that your 9800 Pro is too slow in the games you want to play at the resolutions and eye candy level you want.
you could save up for an sli nf4 and get that along with a pci-e 6800gt. would be an interesting idea i think. but the only worthy upgrade path from a 9800 pro would be at least a 6800gt/x800pro.
hmm..intresting. Believe it or not I can tell that my 9800 pro is a bit of a bottle neck on my current system. It's like the cpu and memory is slapping it around like a b!@#h. I do like eye candy, I am one who believes that there is no need to buy a nice graphics card, and cpu, if you are not going to push it to it's limits and enjoy the very best you can from what you buy. This is what sets us PC gamers aside from console gamers (no pun inttended). My research tells me that the X800 cards are good out of the box cards, but will not stand the test of time compared to the Nvidia cards. 6800GT or Utlra it will be...
...now if you don't mind, 128meg, or 256meg, when considering bang for the buck...
...now if you don't mind, 128meg, or 256meg, when considering bang for the buck...
worry about tomorrow when tomorrow comes.
that card is more than enough to run anything out right now, albeit it may not be able to turn on all the eye candy. it's still not worth upgrading, unless you have oodles of money coming out your rear. There's a huge shortage of higher end video cards right now anyways, with all the price gouging you would be lucky to find a match for you without parting with a limb. just fyi though, it is the limiting factor in your PC. that 4000+ is very fast
.my advice: wait until later in the year, where MAYBE some video cards will be in stock, and there will be a couple more choices available and lower prices
.I went from a 9700 NON PRO to a 6800 NON GT/U and I see a night and say difference. I even got Riva Tuner to open up the 4 pipes and 1 vertex on my card with no problems or errors in games. Its basically an underclocked GT and I don't over clock so it doesn't matter to me.
Same computer played the 9700
AMD64 3000+
1gig Corsair DDR400 CAS2
ASRock K8S8X Mobo
WD 80gig 8mb cache hd
Star Wars Galaxies used to have lag in the cities... NO MORE! Cards like the 6800 and X800 series really show the flaws of client lag in current gen games. City of Heroes doesn't lag at high settings anymore. EVE online is smoother as well ( yes Imma MMORPG freak ) but HL2 and CSS run absolutely insane. I did Doom 3, not HL2, on the 9700 and it was ok 1024x768 2xAA 4xAF on medium but now it plays 1280x1024 4xAA 8xAF fine with high. Using Windows 2000pro.
eVGA 6800NU for the win. Then use Riva Tuner to unlock the rest of the pipes and vertex units. This even plays games in Linux using Cedega ( WineX ). CSS worked fine as does HL2, SWG and CoH.
Same computer played the 9700
AMD64 3000+
1gig Corsair DDR400 CAS2
ASRock K8S8X Mobo
WD 80gig 8mb cache hd
Star Wars Galaxies used to have lag in the cities... NO MORE! Cards like the 6800 and X800 series really show the flaws of client lag in current gen games. City of Heroes doesn't lag at high settings anymore. EVE online is smoother as well ( yes Imma MMORPG freak ) but HL2 and CSS run absolutely insane. I did Doom 3, not HL2, on the 9700 and it was ok 1024x768 2xAA 4xAF on medium but now it plays 1280x1024 4xAA 8xAF fine with high. Using Windows 2000pro.
eVGA 6800NU for the win. Then use Riva Tuner to unlock the rest of the pipes and vertex units. This even plays games in Linux using Cedega ( WineX ). CSS worked fine as does HL2, SWG and CoH.
I have been contemplating on waiting. And you are right, the price will go down. However, my plan is to UPGRADE. I have been fairly successful on ebay upgrading to newer technology. I have sold my older computer parts almost overnight. Memory, graphics cards, etc... I can wait, and every day my 9800 Pro will depreciate in value. Right now, I can get almost $170 for it, which I can use to offset the cost of the newer card. However, you are right about the eye candy. So what if I can't turn it ALL on right now, I will consider waiting. However, in the meantime, your opinions are more than welcome. Thanks for the posts.
Good point, AGP days are numbered. In a year I might have to replace my mobo as well for a PCI-Express card.
But remember, he is not using a 9700 non pro. The difference between the radeon 9700np and 9800pro is larger then the diff between 9600xt and 9700np.
Yep. That's why you should get use out of your current card/mobo while they're useful, which should be around a year. Then with the money you've saved, upgrade to something really superb. You're probably not actually hurting right now, are you?
This isn't even close to true, but a 6800GT would be a better upgrade path for your AGP motherboard.
Is it more than 20% faster overall? There are times it loses to the 9800 pro, let alone being ahead by much more than that.
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