Upgrade from 780TI

[goobernoodles]

I'm getting the itch to upgrade my 780ti. Should I go with a 2nd 780TI or just replace it all together with a 980 or 980ti? BF4, Fallout 4, etc. I realize I would need to upgrade to a 1000w PSU to have dual 780ti's.

 

[railven]

I'm getting the itch to upgrade my 780ti. Should I go with a 2nd 780TI or just replace it all together with a 980 or 980ti? BF4, Fallout 4, etc. I realize I would need to upgrade to a 1000w PSU to have dual 780ti's.

I went from a 780 Lightning (OC'd to a bit faster than stock 780 Ti) to a GTX 980 Ti and pretty much almost doubled my FPS after OCing. Also, I got some kind of super chip because I was hitting 1504mhz on air (granted at 100% fan, which is loud!)

I'd personally aim away from SLI setups, but that's just me (why I went 980 Ti instead of a cheaper ~$200-250 second 780 for SLI).

*Disclaimer: Before someone states the obvious, not all OC's are guaranteed, so your miles will vary, etc etc.


I upgraded the stock cooler to the EVGA Hybrid kit and idle temps are <25C with full load temps at +300 Core/+300 Mem <48C. I'm actually considering a BIOS flash because I think I'm power limited right now.

 

[hawtdawg]

I went from dual 780's to dual 980ti's and it was definitely worth it imo, though i run 1440p 144hz monitor

 

[n0x1ous]

I went from dual 780's to dual 980ti's and it was definitely worth it imo, though i run 1440p 144hz monitor

ditto

 

[Mondozei]

You have the GK110 flagship which means if you want to upgrade you should make the right comparison --> GM200. A 980 only makes sense if you're on GK104. As for which 980 Ti, I'd say the MSI Lightning Edition is a very strong contender.

 

[aaksheytalwar]

You'll nearly double your FPS with a 980 Ti.

 

[Termie]

I'm getting the itch to upgrade my 780ti. Should I go with a 2nd 780TI or just replace it all together with a 980 or 980ti? BF4, Fallout 4, etc. I realize I would need to upgrade to a 1000w PSU to have dual 780ti's.

I've run the 780 Ti, 780 Ti SLI, the 980, 980 Ti, and 980 Ti in SLI. At this point I would not get 780 Ti SLI, as you will be VRAM limited in some current games, with more to come. The 980 is not a true upgrade, only 17% faster based on my tests. Not worth it for you. The 980 Ti is a real upgrade, and I don't see a reason to jump immediately to 980 Ti SLI given your current setup.

By the way, you don't need 1000W for 980 Ti SLI, but your current 750W unit would be pushed to its absolute max, so you would probably want an 850W unit.

You'll nearly double your FPS with a 980 Ti.

That's actually not even close to true. The 980 Ti is 45-50% faster than a 780 Ti.

 

[RussianSensation]

I'm getting the itch to upgrade my 780ti. Should I go with a 2nd 780TI or just replace it all together with a 980 or 980ti? BF4, Fallout 4, etc. I realize I would need to upgrade to a 1000w PSU to have dual 780ti's.

Get 980Ti, skip 980. Otherwise, wait for 16nm GPUs. 980Ti came out May 31, 2015 and you waited 6 months. The card has hardly dropped in price. Probably would have been better off picking up 980Ti in June. But if you needed to save some $, I guess it makes sense. With a 780Ti OC, you could probably survive to Pascal though. If you are going to buy off Newegg, AMEX has $25 off $200 by December 31, 2015.

That's actually not even close to true. The 980 Ti is 45-50% faster than a 780 Ti.

Ya, that's about right. A heavily factory pre-overclocked 980Ti is 60% faster than a stock 780Ti. 780Ti can also be overclocked though so I'd say 55-60% is probably a reasonable average, nowhere close to 2X faster on average though as some alluded to earlier.

Pascal though should be a dramatic increase in performance unless NV decides to milk the generation and wait until 2017 to release the 980Ti's successor. 16nm + HBM2 + new architecture, sounds epic. :wub:

 

[happy medium]

980ti vote here

 

[tential]

980ti. Should be ~$600 now with sales/BF going on.

 

[RussianSensation]

980ti. Should be ~$600 now with sales/BF going on.

Zotac 980Ti $599 - $25 AMEX Newegg offer = $575 :thumbsup:

 

[happy medium]

Zotac 980Ti $599 - $25 AMEX Newegg offer = $575 :thumbsup:

wow 1$ game too, nice one russian

 

[Azix]

get a furry

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202157&cm_re=r9_fury-_-14-202-157-_-Product

 

[Face2Face]

I vote wait...

BF4 should run plenty fine @ 1440p Ultra settings if you drop the AA. I doubt FO4 will be a graphical powerhouse, so it should do alright as well.

Next gen, we should get 980ti performance from a much cheaper card.

 

[boozzer]

never ever buy hardware for a game that isn't even release yet. just look at the batman game.

 

[RussianSensation]

I vote wait...

BF4 should run plenty fine @ 1440p Ultra settings if you drop the AA. I doubt FO4 will be a graphical powerhouse, so it should do alright as well.

Next gen, we should get 980ti performance from a much cheaper card.

I agree with your post but I am personally starting to doubt that FO4 will run like better on mid-range hardware.

"here’s a sampling of what we’ve added to the latest version of the Creation Engine:

Tiled Deferred Lighting
Temporal Anti-Aliasing
Screen Space Reflections
Bokeh Depth of Field
Screen Space Ambient Occlusion
Height Fog
Motion Blur
Filmic Tonemapping
Custom Skin and Hair Shading
Dynamic Dismemberment using Hardware Tessellation
Volumetric Lighting
Gamma Correct Physically Based Shading"
https://bethesda.net/#en/events/game/the-graphics-technology-of-fallout-4/2015/11/04/45

There will also be tessellated God Rays. Sounds like a GPU killer of a game, for anyone without a Maxwell GPU architecture. Luckily we shall see teh benchmarkz for it soon!

 

[Techhog]

get a furry

I don't think that this is the correct site for such a suggestion.

 

[Face2Face]

I agree with your post but I am personally starting to doubt that FO4 will run like better on mid-range hardware.

"here&#8217;s a sampling of what we&#8217;ve added to the latest version of the Creation Engine:

Tiled Deferred Lighting
Temporal Anti-Aliasing
Screen Space Reflections
Bokeh Depth of Field
Screen Space Ambient Occlusion
Height Fog
Motion Blur
Filmic Tonemapping
Custom Skin and Hair Shading
Dynamic Dismemberment using Hardware Tessellation
Volumetric Lighting
Gamma Correct Physically Based Shading"
https://bethesda.net/#en/events/game/the-graphics-technology-of-fallout-4/2015/11/04/45

There will also be tessellated God Rays. Sounds like a GPU killer of a game, for anyone without a Maxwell GPU architecture. Luckily we shall see teh benchmarkz for it soon!

Ugh... I'm not ready to upgrade my video card quite yet (waiting for next gen) and I will be playing FO4 pretty much exclusively for many months to come... If you're correct, I guess my 5820K upgrade will be on hold for a little bit because i'll have to upgrade my video card.

 

[desprado]

SLI is waste of time and money.Buy a single GTX 980 Ti and OC will improve your performance up to 25% to 30% depends how well you OC.

 

[aaksheytalwar]

In 2016 when 3GB of 780Ti is no longer enough, you'll nearly double your FPS with a 980Ti. It may be 60% faster today. Within a few months it will be close to 75-100% faster. This isn't even a guess, it is nearly common sense. Reasons:

1. Lack of VRAM in 780 Ti

2. Kepler

3. nVidia

 

[Racan]

I don't think that this is the correct site for such a suggestion.

D:

 

[RussianSensation]

Ugh... I'm not ready to upgrade my video card quite yet (waiting for next gen) and I will be playing FO4 pretty much exclusively for many months to come... If you're correct, I guess my 5820K upgrade will be on hold for a little bit because i'll have to upgrade my video card.

Well wait for actual gaming benches of FO4 and make sure to review 4-5 top sites to get a general theme of how well it performs on GCN/Kepler and Maxwell. Your CPU is still top notch and your gaming monitor is 1440P which suggests you will be mostly GPU limited in most modern AAA games unless you go beyond GTX980Ti SLI.

Unless you can get a spectacularly great deal on a 5820K platform with DDR4, I don't see this being a great upgrade unless you require video rendering firepower of 6-cores or something. Since you also already have 16GB of DDR3, I think if doing a full platform upgrade and given that 5820K is an August 2014 CPU/platform, if I were in your shoes, I'd wait to do a full upgrade to Skylake-E in 2017. I highly doubt that your CPU will be the main bottleneck in FO4 and many other AAA games at 1440P.

On the positive side, 780 can still be sold for $200, and we've seen 980Ti dropping to $575. That means your net upgrade cost to a 980Ti could cost you about the same as the 5820K CPU alone.

In 2016 when 3GB of 780Ti is no longer enough, you'll nearly double your FPS with a 980Ti. It may be 60% faster today. Within a few months it will be close to 75-100% faster. This isn't even a guess, it is nearly common sense. Reasons:

1. Lack of VRAM in 780 Ti

2. Kepler

3. nVidia

All of these are valid reasons and it may be true in some games 980Ti would approach closer to 80% faster than a 780Ti (Anno 2205 or TW3 are a couple of such games). However, that's not the case for most games. In any event, I don't think a single 980Ti is a logical upgrade from dual 780Tis.

 

[Face2Face]

Well wait for actual gaming benches of FO4 and make sure to review 4-5 top sites to get a general theme of how well it performs on GCN/Kepler and Maxwell. Your CPU is still top notch and your gaming monitor is 1440P which suggests you will be mostly GPU limited in most modern AAA games unless you go beyond GTX980Ti SLI.

Unless you can get a spectacularly great deal on a 5820K platform with DDR4, I don't see this being a great upgrade unless you require video rendering firepower of 6-cores or something. Since you also already have 16GB of DDR3, I think if doing a full platform upgrade and given that 5820K is an August 2014 CPU/platform, if I were in your shoes, I'd wait to do a full upgrade to Skylake-E in 2017. I highly doubt that your CPU will be the main bottleneck in FO4 and many other AAA games at 1440P.

On the positive side, 780 can still be sold for $200, and we've seen 980Ti dropping to $575. That means your net upgrade cost to a 980Ti could cost you about the same as the 5820K CPU alone.



All of these are valid reasons and it may be true in some games 980Ti would approach closer to 80% faster than a 780Ti (Anno 2205 or TW3 are a couple of such games). However, that's not the case for most games. In any event, I don't think a single 980Ti is a logical upgrade from dual 780Tis.

I've already pre-ordered the game, so I'll know as soon as I fire it up on the 10th

For gaming, I completely agree with you, the 5820K isn't going to do much for me @ 1440p. I've been doing a lot more video editing/rendering lately and I could certainly use the 12 threads.

As far as the 5820K, I'm actually getting one for free from Intel. The company I work for is one of their Gold partners, so I can use points to buy Intel products. My 3570K would go to my kid's Gaming PC and their 3470s would go to my Media Server to replace an aging Phenom II X6 1035t.

Anyway, the MB I want is currently $250 and 16GB of DDR4 is $105 - BUT -- If FO4 is a beast to run, I'll divert that money to a new GPU, but I'd rather wait until next gen.

 

[escrow4]

I'm thinking about an upgrade too. 780 Ti GHz. Thing is a 980 Ti is $1055 here for the Gigabyte Windforce edition while a Sapphire Tri X 390X is $619. I'll see with Fallout but I may just sidegrade ish to a 390X. I'm not paying another $1K to feed Nvidia's demented urges - I'd bet money that the 980 Ti will be just as gimped when its successor is inevitable released.