Upgrade: Barton 2500+ to Barton 3000+

[NokiaDude]

Say I had the money to do so. Would I see any difference or is my 2500+ going to be just as good?

 

[BFG10K]

You should see a small difference in games (somewhere around 15%-20%). It's probably not worth it unless the upgrade is dirt cheap.

 

[sd]

won't your 2500+ DO 3000+?

 

[NokiaDude]

I guess I can wait for the price to bottom out next year. I'll just save my money and buy an ATI Radeon 9800, my 7500 isn't cutting it!

 

[RollWave]

overclock...multiplier 11 and fsb 200 = yay! and 10x200 will be the 3000+ if i believe, all 2500+ do that as far as I know

 

[StageLeft]

Bad, bad idea. Can't your barton do 3000+ as the other fellow mentioned? Even if it can't I wouldn't bother with the upgrade.

 

[JBT]

WHOA no way is it worth it especially since essentially all 2500's will do 3200 Speeds... I don't think you would see anywhere near 15-20% in games as previously mentioned.

 

[EeyoreX]

Not only can you probably overclock to near 3000+ levels, do you have a motherboard to take advantage of the 400MHz FSB of the 300+? ANd do you have the RAM to run 1:1 with the CPU? If not, consider those costs as well. If you don't have the RAM to run in synch, you may actually hurt performance and notice no gain at all. When all is said and done, I'd probably keep the 2500+ until I was ready to take the A64 plunge.

\Dan

 

[JustAnAverageGuy]

Originally posted by: JBT
WHOA no way is it worth it especially since essentially all 2500's will do 3200 Speeds... I don't think you would see anywhere near 15-20% in games as previously mentioned.

Mine won't. :'(

only does 2.0GHz (200x10) stable.

It'll post at 3000+ (200x10.5), but it won't boot into windows.

Won't even post at 200x11

can't get 201FSB, even with a 5x multiplier

 

[AIWGuru]

Originally posted by: EeyoreX
Not only can you probably overclock to near 3000+ levels, do you have a motherboard to take advantage of the 400MHz FSB of the 300+? ANd do you have the RAM to run 1:1 with the CPU? If not, consider those costs as well. If you don't have the RAM to run in synch, you may actually hurt performance and notice no gain at all. When all is said and done, I'd probably keep the 2500+ until I was ready to take the A64 plunge.

\Dan

Ummm...I thought only the 3200 had a 400mhz fsb. I could be wrong.
For the person who can't get past 2ghz with their 2500, maybe your ram is holding you back. Have you tried lowering its divisor, what about CPU voltage?

 

[NokiaDude]

I despise overclocking. So I'm ACTUALLY buying the CPU. 3000+ is the max my board can handle, I'm not too sure the KT400 chipset can take a 400FSB stock.

 

[scott9343]

Originally posted by: NokiaDude
I despise overclocking. So I'm ACTUALLY buying the CPU. 3000+ is the max my board can handle, I'm not too sure the KT400 chipset can take a 400FSB stock.

do you like throwing your money away?

 

[JustAnAverageGuy]

Originally posted by: AIWGuru

For the person who can't get past 2ghz with their 2500, maybe your ram is holding you back. Have you tried lowering its divisor, what about CPU voltage?

My RAM IS holding me back. I'm just amazed it got to 200MHz

PC2700 Corsair XMS. Stable @ 2-2-3-11 400Mhz @ 2.8V (Memtest certified )

I run it at 2-3-3-11 @ 2.7V though.

3-4-4-8 @ 2.8V doesn't help any either.

CPU Voltage @ 1.70

I would pick up the PC3200 variation, but its like $140 now. I got the PC2700 back when it was cheap. $79.50 So I'm not exactly complaining.

It'll do 166x12.5, but 200x10 just feels faster.

 

[NokiaDude]

No, but I've got enough of it that I don't have to worry!

 

[Sid59]

how about i sell you my processor that is promised to do 3200+ (11x200) .. i've even got it up to 11x210 ...

you should save your money (even though you have enough not to worry) and just squeeze a little more out of it.

if not ..

can i have your old hardware?

 

[Mik3y]

all you have to do is set the fsb in the bios to 400, and then ur comp will be set to 3200+. just dont change any other setting. clocking a 2500 to 3200 is not technically overclocking, because the cpu is technically made for 3200+. the 2500+ and the 3200+ are the same cpu's. all it needs is a descent motherboard to unlock its potential. by clocking the cpu to 3200+, you're not overkilling the computer or anything at all. its perfectly normal. Just like the prescott has 64 bit ability. all it needs is a motherboard capable of unlocking its ability to run 64 bit. otherwise, their the same processors.

 

[smartsam]

Your bios doesn't just give you an option to set it to 3200+? Let's see, maybe they got rid of that in rev. 2, but I think Mikey's right here, should just be able to set your FSB and forget it. That's what I originally did on my NF7-S, but didn't do so well in Prime95 ( the rev. 1.1 board isn't guaranteed to run 200fsb rock stable like the ultra 400 chipset), so i throttled back a notch or so and settled on 2166 Mhz. Don't really see why you should have any trouble if that pc2700 will actually do 200fsb stably. My 2 cents, anyway.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: NokiaDude
I guess I can wait for the price to bottom out next year. I'll just save my money and buy an ATI Radeon 9800, my 7500 isn't cutting it!

Good idea.

 

[NokiaDude]

Originally posted by: smartsam
Your bios doesn't just give you an option to set it to 3200+? Let's see, maybe they got rid of that in rev. 2, but I think Mikey's right here, should just be able to set your FSB and forget it. That's what I originally did on my NF7-S, but didn't do so well in Prime95 ( the rev. 1.1 board isn't guaranteed to run 200fsb rock stable like the ultra 400 chipset), so i throttled back a notch or so and settled on 2166 Mhz. Don't really see why you should have any trouble if that pc2700 will actually do 200fsb stably. My 2 cents, anyway.

I have the AT7-MAX2. The highest "supported" CPU is the 3000+ w/333FSB.

 

[CraigRT]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: NokiaDude
I guess I can wait for the price to bottom out next year. I'll just save my money and buy an ATI Radeon 9800, my 7500 isn't cutting it!

Good idea.

once you get the 9800p you wont feel the need to get the 3000+

 

[EeyoreX]

Ummm...I thought only the 3200 had a 400mhz fsb. I could be wrong.

Yeah. You are wrong. But then, so am I. The 3000+ comes in both a 333MHz and 400MHz flavor.

\Dan

 

[nxh]

does overclocking the front side bus of the 2500+ to a 3200+ increase the cpu temp.?

 

[stncttr908]

Definitely not worth the money. A nice overclock to 11x200 with that 2500+ is all you need. It makes all the difference and you won't see a very large jump in temps.