[Upgrade] 7850 to gtx 960

[Techhog]

R9 380 4GB would be a better choice if it is not to expensive compared to GTX 960 2GB and still in his price range.

4GB variants of both are just barely affordable for him.

 

[Erenhardt]

Are you asking if GTX 960 is a good upgrade in that case?

I'll say, yes, it is. He can do better with more money, but the upgrade from HD 7850 1GB to GTX 960 2GB would be very noticeable.

A decent 650 W power supply can sustain any single graphics card so this is not a limiting factor.

How good of an upgrade it is really? 30%? That is not a good upgrade.
He could get 280X for less $ which is faster than 960.
Not to mention r9 290 or 390.
If he thinks about 4k etc, I would wait for 16nm GPUs which will bring perf/$ improvements along full DX12 support.

 

[Seba]

How good of an upgrade it is really? 30%? That is not a good upgrade.

50%

And in situations where 1GB of video RAM was not enough (but 2GB still is), a bigger difference.

 

[Attic]

OP has a 2gb 7850. I don't see a case for the 960 here.

 

[Seba]

OP has a 2gb 7850. I don't see a case for the 960 here.

Techhog's friend has a HD 7850 1GB. See post #21.

But even for the HD 7850 2GB, I'll take the 50% increase that GTX 960 2GB provides.

 

[boozzer]

anyone who recommends a 960 shouldn't be allow to post, that is my opinion. you are basically screwing people over. not helping them.

 

[Seba]

Like you said, it's your opinion.

 

[Veriitas]

I am not considering the 960 anymore. I am more intrested in the R9 390/290x for now.

How do you guys think that card will perform in the coming years? I do not want to buy a new card in the coming 3/4 years just like the 7850. Is the r9 390 worth to buy now, or should I wait for new card releases in 2016? Also for 1440p gaming and Directx 12. Again, I will be playing Battlefield, Witcher 3, MGS, FallOut4, GTA5, well you get the picture..

I just read something about Directx 12. Do you guys think this will be in favor of AMD? Of the R9 390?

This article might be intresting, I am curious about what you guys think.

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2015/...ly-win-for-amd-and-disappointment-for-nvidia/

 

[Seba]

If the next generation of cards will bring the expected jump in performance, a relatively expensive R9 390 or GTX 970 bought now will not look to be such a smart choice retrospectively.

A GTX 960 will provide a stop gap and will still remain relevant as a HTPC card at least.

 

[Erenhardt]

Techhog's friend has a HD 7850 1GB. See post #21.

But even for the HD 7850 2GB, I'll take the 50% increase that GTX 960 2GB provides.

I vote for a ban for you for misrepresenting reality:

33%

 

[Attic]

While I agree the 960 is not worthwhile for the OP, I've seen the 50% number on other forums as well.



I'd say keep the 7850 and OC the core to 1000mhz and try to get memory to 1350-1400mhz. The 7850's were ocing beasts.


Other than that either up your budget to 980 and fury level pricing or wait for next gen.


FWIW the $200 or less area for new graphics cards has been a major dud for a long time. Cards in this area usually fail to impress. The 7850 being a notable exception when it was released.

So maybe hold off and up budget to $300 area for when you end up pulling the trigger on next gen DX12 cards.

 

[Seba]

I vote for a ban for you for misrepresenting reality:

33%

So you posted a random chart, with no link to data used (games used, testing methodology) and with R7 370 (which is better than HD 7850) instead of HD 7850.

Then also you should vote to ban Anandtech. Because look how they compare HD 7850 with GTX 760. They did not test GTX 960, but you can look in other places to see a comparison between GTX 760 and GTX 960. Hint: GTX 960 is better than GTX 760.

 

[Techhog]

I vote for a ban for you for misrepresenting reality:

33%

To be fair, the 7850 is only clocked at 860MHz on the core and 1200/4800MHz on the VRAM, while the 370 is clocked at 975MHz and 1400/5600MHz respectively. Overall, that probably means over 40% difference. That isn't too far off, and the 960 would overclock much better.

 

[stahlhart]

I vote for a ban for you for misrepresenting reality:

No, you disagree, and state why you disagree, without the personal attack.

Why do we have to continue reminding you about your inability to act appropriately here? Stop it.

-- stahlhart

 

[Seba]

Actually, HD 7850 is clocked even lower, at 800 MHz on the core (stock version).

 

[Veriitas]

I'd say keep the 7850 and OC the core to 1000mhz and try to get memory to 1350-1400mhz. The 7850's were ocing beasts.

Thanks guys for helping me out. And please don't be mad at each other haha..

I tried to OC my 7850 in MSI Afterburner. Put the core to 1000mhz and memory to 1350, however I don't see any improvements when running 3dMark benchmark.

Am I doing something wrong?

 

[Leyawiin]

Thanks guys for helping me out. And please don't be mad at each other haha..

I tried to OC my 7850 in MSI Afterburner. Put the core to 1000mhz and memory to 1350, however I don't see any improvements when running 3dMark benchmark.

Am I doing something wrong?

Try a game. I had an MSI HD 7850 2GB Twin Frozr. OC'd it to 1050/1350 and it was absolutely noticeable in gaming (used FRAPs to test plus just the fact I could bump quality settings up). Also, I currently have a GTX 960. While its absolutely better than the HD 7850 even OC'd its not really a big enough of a jump. An R9 290 or GTX 970 is the better upgrade.

 

[Headfoot]

look up a 7850 overclocking guide and follow it until you get your maximum overclock, you should notice a pretty good difference in games

 

[Techhog]

Thanks guys for helping me out. And please don't be mad at each other haha..

I tried to OC my 7850 in MSI Afterburner. Put the core to 1000mhz and memory to 1350, however I don't see any improvements when running 3dMark benchmark.

Am I doing something wrong?

Did you actually set the clocks? I've forgotten to hit the button to confirm it sometimes lol

 

[Headfoot]

Good point... gotta type in the clocks then also hit the apply button at the bottom (if youre using msi after burner for example)

 

[MajinCry]

Just going to chime in 'ere.

If you're not already using RadeonPro, use it. No need to faff with FRAPS for telling you your FPS.

And, uh, because RadeonPro is actually thing, I'd advocate not going for the 960, or heck, even for an NVidia card. The program's just too swanky to give up.

 

[futurefields]

Just going to chime in 'ere.

If you're not already using RadeonPro, use it. No need to faff with FRAPS for telling you your FPS.

And, uh, because RadeonPro is actually thing, I'd advocate not going for the 960, or heck, even for an NVidia card. The program's just too swanky to give up.

RadeonPro is abandoned for years now and not being updated any more. It likely won't even work on DX12 games. It's a dumb reason to stay AMD and I am somebody who was AMD for years and thought RadeonPro was the best thing ever. NVidia has an equivalent, some say better, software called Inspector. I've been using it since getting an NVidia card and getting similar and better results as I was with RadeonPro tweaking. It is more stable to boot.

 

[MajinCry]

RadeonPro is abandoned for years now and not being updated any more. It likely won't even work on DX12 games. It's a dumb reason to stay AMD and I am somebody who was AMD for years and thought RadeonPro was the best thing ever. NVidia has an equivalent, some say better, software called Inspector. I've been using it since getting an NVidia card and getting similar and better results as I was with RadeonPro tweaking. It is more stable to boot.

Them Direct3D 9 and Direct3D 11 games aren't going anywhere, so that's fine.

From what I can see, Inspector doesn't inject SweetFX, nor does it do FXAA and SMAA injection.

Oi'd be willin' ta wager tha' RadeonPro trumps it, 'cause o' those unique features, otherwise they'd be just brand equivalents.

 

[lehtv]

Used RadeonPro with my 7950, and after upgrading to GTX 970... well, I didn't feel like I lost any useful features. Everything either already works fine or can be easily set in Inspector; SweetFX etc. can be injected with SweetFX configurator; FPS is easily monitored with Afterburner, Dxtory or in-game commands.

 

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