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Upgrade 366 pII to 766 celeron?

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kelesh3

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I have a thinkpad 570 with a 366 pII. Would it be worth it for me to spend $60 and upgrade to a 766 celeron? This is more than double the clock speed, and 128k of l2 cache is not much to be losing, especially for a laptop. How easy is it to replace the cpu in laptops? This is my only concern.
 
More than likely you're gonna have to get a CPU Modual, not just the cpu. Most of the time laptop CPU's are not the same package type as desktop CPU's.
 


<< This is my only concern >>


I'm pretty sure that the default voltage for the celeron is lower than the p2 & is unlikely to be supported by the laptop m/board!
 
...OK, so if voltage is the principle concern, how's this...? I have a 440LX chipset desktop (66MHz) running a P2-333. If I use a slocket to drop the voltage, what other inherent limitations could I run against. It's silly to suggest that a P3-FCPGA proc would run in the system, but what would? Celeron 2's? Other...?
 
unless you have a freaky laptop you can't upgrade. cpu packaging is completely different, sometimes the cpu is literally soldiered in place
 
Thanks, oldfart. Your site? V. useful. Seems to suggest that FCPGA procs should work (not just PPGA's). I'm dubious - is there no signalling difference between Celery-2's and current P3's? I wouldn't expect a 4-yr old PC you work with a current CPU. Why should it? If all's well, I'll just pick up any old FCPGA chip and underclock it. Surely it can't be that easy.
 
No, not my site. The problem with a FCPGA is the voltage. You need a special Powerleap adapter with an onboard regulator and its own bios. For some reason, it wont work in Win2k either. Way too funky for me. Better off getting a new mobo. I was looking into this because I'm upgrading a neighbors PC. Its a Gateway LX PII 233, 32 meg ram and a Riva 128. The thing is pitifully slow, but the guy doesn't feel like springing for a new setup. I'm upgrading it to:

C533 $35
HS/Fan $15
Slocket $12
+256 ram $25
Voodoo3 3k $37

Total about $150 with shipping. This system is not a screamer by our standards, but for his use as a family PC it will be a HUGE improvement that will suite them very well.
 
Its a Gateway LX PII 233, 32 meg ram

jeez 32mb ram? that was the main thing holding him back for a long time then.. 32mb is insane. even a p2 233 runs halfway decent on 128mb😛 course that upgrade your doing will be night and day for him.
 
He was opening some 3 mega pixel shots from his digital camera. It was so bad you'd have to see it. As a bonus, it has a 3 year old Win95 install. He had a ton of stuff running in the background (findfast, real player, etc). I'll upgrade it to Win98 while I'm at it.
 
oldfart, what's special about the Powerleap slocket over others? I already have an Abit Slocket!!!, how is this different. That certainly has it's own voltage controls, but not seen any reference to it's own BIOS. Sounds like all I need is a Celery. Cheers...
 
The Powerleap has on socket regulation of voltage. An LX board can not provide the 1.5 -1.7 V needed for a CII. Look HERE for more details.
 
He was opening some 3 mega pixel shots from his digital camera. It was so bad you'd have to see it. As a bonus, it has a 3 year old Win95 install. He had a ton of stuff running in the background (findfast, real player, etc). I'll upgrade it to Win98 while I'm at it.


i can hear him bitching about microsofts bad programming screwing his computer🙂 hehehe
 
The power leap adapter is $50--get a new motherboard. The MB BIOS also probably won't recognize the Celeron. R
 
I think I may just leave it. Thing is, it's a secondary PC and I really don't want to spend any money on it. Anyway - just for kicks I tried my FCPGA 1GHz P3 (Abit Slocket!!!) in the 440LX system this evening. Even with the right bus freq and core set, it wouldn't POST. Eh, well... nothing lost. Besides, the current kit will become "secondary" in a few months whenever AMD get around to releasing quick Pallys, and if nForce proves itself. 🙂 Then the LX question becomes a moot point.
 
On an LX, I would stop @ a C533. Its not worth putting any more into an old system like that. A 533 is a pretty cheap upgrade. In my neighbors case, 233 -> 533 will be a quantum leap.
 
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