Updates re: Fortron Epsilon PSUs

Howard

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Apparently the output of the FX600-GLN is rated through 50 degrees, and the output of the FX700-GLN is rated through 40 degrees, dropping 50W when at 50 degrees.

Now it makes much more sense. :)

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atybimf

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I do because I've been looking at the FX600-GLN. It is standard size right?
 

you2

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What i want to know is what the efficiency is with 120 volt (as oppose to 230). There has been no reviews on the 600W units but the specs look really nice...
 

GalvanizedYankee

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Thanks Howard. It's good to see FSP Group correct thier specs listed in the pdf.

you2, what you seek is openly shown in the pdf spec sheets for any FSP PSU. But don't
base PSU selection on efficiency alone ;) Generally, when going from 230 to 115VAC
the hit is 2~4%.

...Galvanized
 

you2

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Yea - i know. Kind of hoping johnny or someone else does a solid review before my buy date. As you know i'm debating between this unit and the Enhance unit. Both are around the same price. Hum. wonder if the new revisioin of the ehance changed the performance.
 

GalvanizedYankee

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The Enhance ENS-0560G 600W is not up for a re-work as it is server/workstation rated,
not desktop. The ENP-5150G 500W has been re-worked to be the ENP-5150GH and will
have reduced 3.3 & 5V output but will be 80plus.org certed.

For uber-power but very efficient, look to the 850W pcp&c $$$ :D

http://www.jonnyguru.com/PSUInquisitor >bottom right> first Xbit Labs review. These guys
are a VG PSU review site. IIRC, the guru has not loaded any of the uber-power FSPs.


...Galvanized
 

you2

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Does this mean I shouldn't hope for a review of the fsp 600 w unit in the next two weeks :( Also does this mean a silverstone revision was to not use the ens-0560G for their strider 600w unit :( or :) I guess in the end it doesn't matter (with regards to silverstone). Well I'll cross my fingers anyways and hope someone decent reviews the fsp 600 w unit in the next two weeks :)

Humph.
 

GalvanizedYankee

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I would think there is little or no differance between the FSPs in 600 or 700W. Read
Howard's linked thread. They are both respected, worthy, high output PSUs. I would
be comfortable judging a 600 based on the 700's review. They are near identical.

Trust me, the 0560G IS the 600W Strider. My source knows it for a fact ;) A PM would
get disclosure. I bought for a future build only because it was $99 and every bit as good
as any 600W@$150++. I Bought a 400W Zippy for $89 three months ago to replace an
old Works Power that needs recapping.


...Galvanized
 

you2

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Ok - two comments:

a) Last I checked both the fsp 600w and the 0560G were around $114 shipped - if they are the same price which would you picked ?

b) I heard that there was a new revision of the strider comming out last week or this and it was shorter (hence my comment) but I heard the new revision part from two different sources and the shorter bit was a comment someone made which might be false.
 

GalvanizedYankee

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Originally posted by: you2
Ok - two comments:

a) Last I checked both the fsp 600w and the 0560G were around $114 shipped - if they are the same price which would you picked ?

b) I heard that there was a new revision of the strider comming out last week or this and it was shorter (hence my comment) but I heard the new revision part from two different sources and the shorter bit was a comment someone made which might be false.

So! What do you want of me?? To second guess my $99 purchase?? OK, but after this, no more, as looking back with regret is not what it is about. MmmKay ;)

The following is off the top of my head as I'm not looking at specs.

According to 80plus.org & others, the FSP-600-GLN is at best 5~7% more efficient than the 0560, is not modular, is 140mm deep vs 180mm for the 0560. FSP has recently been seen to be using less than caps IDK if this has an impact or were used in the GLN series. The 0560 uses Teapo caps, they are just average at best for PSU use (pcp&c uses this brand also). Both use a good number of toroid coils vs ferrite coils. This is more expensive but offers cooler operation. The FSP will have a quieter fan and much smaller heat sinks, not sure what that means but it's true. OH! The FSP is more efficient at very low output, so it may get away with smaller sinks. Again idk. You might want to do the math on waste heat at <20% output ;) Output for both is about the same but the 0560 regulates the first three 12V rails at 18A vs 15A for the FSP.

If the 5~7%, smaller casing, non-modular, a bit quieter fan add up to your needs. Go for it. A small ATX case with long opticals may not take the 180mm depth+modular of the 0560.

If more amperage on the first three 12V rails and modular are looking good, go for the 0560.

Aside from price, it was jonny's review, plus the one at systemcooling that sold me on the 0560. Plus knowing Etasis designed/built the Zeus units and Enhance used thier excellent work to offer the refined Strider series. Reviews here http://www.jonnyguru.com/PSUInquiorer Etasis & Enhance are considered top tier SMPS builders. If I needed a passive 300W, it would come from Etasis.

I have pins & tooling, so making up cabling for the PSU is no problem as all the PSU ports take 24, 10, 8, 6, 4 pin, 4 pin Molex connections. :p I really like that fact. You may not.

Got enough? :p

...Galvanized
 

Howard

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Originally posted by: GalvanizedYankee
Originally posted by: you2
Ok - two comments:

a) Last I checked both the fsp 600w and the 0560G were around $114 shipped - if they are the same price which would you picked ?

b) I heard that there was a new revision of the strider comming out last week or this and it was shorter (hence my comment) but I heard the new revision part from two different sources and the shorter bit was a comment someone made which might be false.
Output for both is about the same but the 0560 regulates the first three 12V rails at 18A vs 15A for the FSP.

...Galvanized
Should be 18A (contrary to the spec sheet).
 

you2

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Ok. I have a solution. I'll pick the one that is least expensive when I place my order :) (tihis presumes the fsp power is as clean as the enhance). And given my elite status of knowing nothing about nothing i'll probably be happy with either for ignorance is bliss.
 

GalvanizedYankee

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Sorry we high jacked your thread Howard but atleast it was at the top of the board for awhile :)

you2, one more consideration,re. efficiency. If most of the comp use will be low power demand, the Epsilon shines there. If most use is at 300~350W, the 0560 is at 75~77% and the differance is really not that much between the two.


...Galvanized