updated with auction link: Paypal/ebay disputes

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Given all the horror stories I've heard about paypal, I'm concerned they're going to simply rule in his favor because he has higher feedback than me. However, I clearly wrote on the 3rd line (new paragraph) that the heatspreader was sanded. Which, if he had googled this, he would have seen what it is he was getting.
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What do I do if they rule in his favor? Should I escalate this before he does?
 
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Originally posted by: quakefiend420
what is his problem with that?

That was my question. I guaranteed non-doa, it is not doa; in fact it was overclockable to 3.4Ghz on 1.472v assuming you had good enough cooling (I run with an Ultra-120-non-extreme myself); and never folded or Seti'd (things that will kill the cpu faster if it's OC'd). Stayed within the voltages Intel warrants, etc. Quite a good chip, cream of the crop, treated me well. I gamed on it that's it.

I'm just afraid of ebay.
 

Newbian

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Sorry, but most of the time they side with the buyer. :(

Clear out your paypal and bank account linked with it asap. ;)
 

Gigantopithecus

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There is a chance that PayPal will rule in your favor if that was the only thing the buyer complained about. However, it is PayPal, so be prepared that they'll rule against you. In which case, hope the buyer actually sends back your gear in the same condition you shipped it, & doesn't send you an empty box. If the buyer does send it back to you, you'll be required to refund the entire payment, you're out your cost to ship it, & you'll probably be out the eBay fees, too, since eBay doesn't always refund those.

Did you attempt to sell it on the FS/T forum here? We're a bunch of cheapskates, but by the time eBay takes its cut, you'll probably get just as much here as you will there.
 

Gigantopithecus

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Originally posted by: Newbian
Sorry, but most of the time they side with the buyer. :(

Clear out your paypal and bank account linked with it asap. ;)

This is pointless. If you ever want to use your PayPal account again, they'll just take the funds the next time you receive a payment or use your PayPal account to send a payment. And they will send you to a creditor for a large enough amount. Sorry OP, but those are the breaks of selling on eBay.
 

octopus41092

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If that's his only complaint and you clearly stated it in the auction, I would think they would rule in your favor.
 

chibichanman

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Been in the situation before. Prepare to lose. PayPal will side with the buyer. On average, a buyer will push more transactions than a seller, business is business.
 

ahenkel

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Sometimes a giving a refund if they return the item is better than a negative feedback. Especially if you're new I learned that the hard way
 

nanette1985

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Arguing with ebay and paypal is like arguing with a toddler - logic means nothing. They side with the buyer most of the time.

Good luck.
 

AmberClad

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Originally posted by: quakefiend420
what is his problem with that?
His problem would be that lapping the CPU renders the Intel warranty void (it's under the section about "defaced serial numbers" I think).

But I don't have any sympathy for the buyer since it sounds like OP stated it in the auction.
 
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Link:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...ame=ADME:L:LCA:US:1123

I forgot to post pics of it before listing and went off to the gym. This would have saved me the trouble. I came back and it was sold.
Buyer does not understand english. This is the complaint he filed:
From Buyer - ? ??

6/25/2009 18:29 PDT

The CPU surface of receive has no form of written, the surface should be silvery and receive of the CPU peep out all copper colors, very terrible."

Here is what I replied with:
Please go back and view my original listing. At the beginning of the third line I wrote:

"Sanded the top of the heat spreader for fun, it's supposed to help your temps but it didn't help me any".

It is your responsibility as an ebayer to fully investigate the auction and determine if you like the item based on the description. If you had goolged for what I wrote-- "sand the heat spreader" then you would understand that this is the item you were receiving. Please see the following link, where I have googled for you exactly what I wrote-- "Sanded the top of the heat spreader"--

http://images.google.com/image...1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi

It is common knowledge that the purpose of sanding the heat spreader is to improve the processor's ability to dissipate heat into the heatsink. I clearly specified that I had done this sanding, in the auction text on the 3rd line as I quoted above.

I am sorry that you are not happy with the item but as I already mentioned it is your responsibility to investigate the item fully. I was perfectly clear that the item would be sanded down, just like in the images of the link above.

The item is perfectly functional as I guaranteed in the auction, and you can verify that it is an e2180 processor yourself by plugging it into a compatible motherboard and checking what processor it is in your operating system.

Ugh.

What if *I* escalated before he had a chance to? Think that would improve my odds?
 

tcsenter

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You're wasting your time, the dude appears to be Chinese who speak it the Engrish not in the good very. So him probably read it the Engrish not good very, either. God bless America.

Always make these disclosures conspicuous with images. Paypal and Ebay will side with the seller if you make these things conspicuous in a way that stands out from the rest of the text/description and provide images.