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(UPDATED: It was stupid.) Was it wise for me to do this if you were in my situation ??

CTrain

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Let me try to make this as brief as possible.

I'm a store manager of a McDonalds. My direct boss is my long time buddy who is also the owners son.
The only reason why I'm at McDs is because he convinced me to work here after 9/11.

Anyhow, I'm still fairly new as a store manager and I am in charge of a small McDonalds and we do not use armor car(i.e. Brink) for our deposits.
My managers would take their deposits to the bank but some of them do not have cars so they drop it into the safe.
I then would take it to the bank.

The whole problem is the upper compartment is unlock because the lock is not working.
Basically other managers would have access to deposits that was left in the upper compartment until I take it to the bank.
At the beginning, everyone had to LOG when droppping he deposits and such.
As time went on, managers stopped LOGGING but since everything was OK, I just let it go.

So a couple of weeks ago, 2 deposits came missing, a $450 and $600.
I caught alot of heat for this and deservely so.
It was betting no where and we will end up polygraphing everyone.
I will probbaly end up losing at least 1 if not 2-3 managers.
Usually in this situation, someone will fail the polygraph or decide not to take it.
Most managers I know, even if they pass the main test of not taking the money will fail on other questions.
THey are brutal in their questionings.

So I took upon myself to get my own money, and dropped the $450 and $600 just a couple of days ago.
WHY ??? You asked ??

Well, chances are me and my boss(owners son) will have to pay for the missing money anyhow as it was our responsibilities.
Seeing how it was more of my carelessness than his, I'm more obligated.
Also, I just can't afford to lose any managers and start over. I just won't do it.
The job is stressing enough without having to train more managers on how to run a shift.
I told my boss that I would quit if I had to start over.

So basically I shelled out a $1050 of my own money to take care of the situation I got myself into.
$1000 is a big chunk for me but I'm pretty well off with how much I make and such.

The problem I see is that I still have a thief in the store but that person will be caught sooner or later.
The procedure for money right now is very strict and no more room for error.
I plan to tell my buddy about what I did when this whole thing gets blown over.

What do you think, STUPID, WISE ??? Any other way I could have handle the situation ??

Went and had a beer with my buddy today.
We were talking and he told him that they were only going to polygraph 1 manager(the most suspicious one).
They decide that it would have cost too much money for the money that we lost. $300 per polygraph.
I have quite a big mouth so I told him what I did and my reasoning for it.
His quote was " That was stupid"
He said that 1 manager could have been the thief and neither one of us would have had to paid it back.
Basically the office will see the 2 deposits coming in and this whole situation will come to an end.
Hes gonna keep it to himself of course.

I guess it was stupid of me to use $1000 of my own money to cover up a problem that might still exist.
Oh yeah, we're heading to Vegas Sept. 12 and thats $1000 less money I have to spend :)
 

MattCo

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You guys dont have security cameras? They are cheap. Set one up. Catch the ArseHat and string them up by their toes!


-MC
 

Chaotic42

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So wait, you put your own money in without telling your district manager/owner?

I don't think that was wise at all. We had deposits come up missing fairly often at the McDs I worked at. It was a 7 store organization. Eventually they had crew (usually me) ride with the manager when they made the deposits. We had one deposit at 11am, and one after closing.

Their accounts will be all messed up if you don't tell them. It will be hard to train new assistants, but you need to. They'll just do it again, so weed them out now.
 

FoBoT

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Originally posted by: amnesiac
WHY DON'T YOU FIX THE LOCK?

well, yeah

but since you got in the pickle, i think it shows a lot character taking responsibility for the situation and getting things back on track

as far as the thief, it would be nice to get them to leave, but there are lots of people that are mostly honest unless given an opportunity (unfortunetly) as you presented them with the unlocked money

so take it as one of those "hard knock" lessons that life throws us and do your best not to repeat that type of mistake :)
 

CTrain

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The lock is fixed now.....abeit a little too late.

We do have security camera.....the date for the missing deposits were the 25th and 28th.
The problem is I got so careless, we didn't LOG anything.
Basically I see deposits in the upper compertment, I take it to the bank.
So if the 1st deposit was dropped on the 25thh and I dodn't take it to the bank on the 27th, then anyone could have taken it between the 25-27.

We do have someone looking at the tape but thats like watching 24hrx3 tapes and the quality is not that great.
Like I said, its getting no where and the last resort is polygraph.
 

UncleWai

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You end up losing $1050 and keep a thief in the McD,
I call that absolutely stupid. You didn't fix any problem,
if you say sooner or later he is going to get caught, why not keep the $1050, and catch the thief right now?
Also, you put yourself in a vulnerable position because your friend will think you have something to do with it.
 

cjgallen

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Originally posted by: Chaotic42
So wait, you put your own money in without telling your district manager/owner?

I don't think that was wise at all.

I agree, it makes you look guilty IMO.

So exactly how long was this lock broken? It seems like you could have saved a lot of trouble by making a run to the hardware store.
 

waggy

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OK so you stoled $1050 and they decided to polygraph everyone soyou got scared and put it back?

ok that may not be what happend but it sure looks like it.

Now why would you put you rown money in until they told you to? if they find out you put it in you will be the prime suspect on the thieft. anyway why would you NOT want the real thief found?
 

CTrain

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Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: amnesiac
WHY DON'T YOU FIX THE LOCK?

well, yeah

but since you got in the pickle, i think it shows a lot character taking responsibility for the situation and getting things back on track

as far as the thief, it would be nice to get them to leave, but there are lots of people that are mostly honest unless given an opportunity (unfortunetly) as you presented them with the unlocked money

so take it as one of those "hard knock" lessons that life throws us and do your best not to repeat that type of mistake :)


You summed it up the best.
Most people DO NOT steal unless you give them the opportunity.

As far as fvcking up accounting.....not really.
Basically the office logs in to check on what deposits was dropped and such.
So they then check the bank to see what was cleared.
And then they just matches up.

BAsically they have told me that they would call off the investigation is the deposits came up.
 

CTrain

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Originally posted by: UncleWai
You end up losing $1050 and keep a thief in the McD,
I call that absolutely stupid. You didn't fix any problem,
if you say sooner or later he is going to get caught, why not keep the $1050, and catch the thief right now?
Also, you put yourself in a vulnerable position because your friend will think you have something to do with it.

Let me sum up for you guys who thinks otherwise.

My boss who is also the owners son is a good friend of mine.
We hang out together all the time and we go on vacation and such.
We have known each other for 12+ yrs so he knows I had nothing to do with it.
They even told me I didn't have to take the polygraph as it is expensive...$300 per person.

Plus, when ever there is a crime, there is a motive.
I have absolutely zero motive.
I make on pace for $42k this yr and I have over $20K saved up.
Make very little sense to steal $1000 and get myself in all this heat and possibly lose all my managers and make my job more stressful.
I'm on the verge of taking over a bigger store and make more money as soon as I go to this one class that McDs require.

So I would put myself in this situation by stealing $1000 ??? Doesn't add up.

 

SammyBoy

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Neither does giving away a grand of your own money.
What do you make? 10 dollars an hour? So you say that training another manager (whoever stole the money), isn't worth 100 hours of your time? 100 hours that you would have been working anyways!?!?! Also, who's to say it wasnt some punk cashier kid who snuck into the office?

THE FACT THAT YOU PUT YOUR ASS ON THE LINE FOR MCDONALDS IS PATHETIC AND ANGERING TO ME
 

CTrain

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Originally posted by: SammyBoy
Neither does giving away a grand of your own money.
What do you make? 10 dollars an hour? So you say that training another manager (whoever stole the money), isn't worth 100 hours of your time? 100 hours that you would have been working anyways!?!?! Also, who's to say it wasnt some punk cashier kid who snuck into the office?

THE FACT THAT YOU PUT YOUR ASS ON THE LINE FOR MCDONALDS IS PATHETIC AND ANGERING TO ME

I think $42K a yr is a little more than $10/hr :)
You forget to read the part that I'd probably have to reposible for that $1k in the end.
Although I probabaly only have to split that with my friend.

You might be right that someone else beside the managers took the money.
My managers were very careless with the money....leaving their deposits sitting around before they leave, leaving the safe open, etc...