UPDATED: How much is an Ayrton Senna 1994 Williams racing suit (actually his) worth?

[GL]

I'm thinking of making a slight investment that I can actually tangibly appreciate (while, it of course appreciates in value). I can get my hands on an Ayrton Senna 1994 Racing suit that he wore at one of the races in that ill-fated season.

What kind of money do you expect me to lay down for this memorabilia? I'm asking this because it is not priced - I think I'll have to throw in my best offer and hope that 1) I'm not laughed at and 2) I'm not taken to the bank and ripped off.

Thanks in advance.

UPDATE
I think the suit is not for sale. The owner of the store sent me the price list and the Senna suit is no longer on it. For comparison's sake, Williams '97 racing suit from their first win at Silverstone/Nurburgring is US$18,000:Q I think the Senna suit was probably US$75,000.

But I think I can afford some parts of the car Gonna get me a Jacque Villeneuve '97 Williams rear wheel and/or the windscreen

-GL

 

[przero]

Any signature or other marking to differentiate it from his other suits?

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

I would think to the right collector this would be enormously valuable. The thing is, I would think the people most interested in it would be overseas, so it may be tough to approximate its value without an appraisal from someone in Europe.

Try taking it to the Antiques Roadshow .

 

[przero]

My guess is comparable to Earnhardt stuff here in the U.S.

 

[Hamburgerpimp]

Ayrton Senna is the greatest race car driver of all time, he won an amazing 25% of all his Formula One races. Grab a piece of history.


Formula One record

Races Entered 162
Victories 41
Podium Finishes 80
Pole Positions 65
Fastest Laps 19
Laps Lead 2987

 

[przero]

Greatest F1, o.k. Greatest race car driver, nah. He drove the 3 car!

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

<< Greatest F1, o.k. Greatest race car driver, nah. He drove the 3 car! >>



No offense to the late Dale Earnhardt, but he was nowhere near as dominant over the length of his career as was Senna. I still maintain that F1 is a far more physically and mentally challenging discipline than NASCAR as well.

 

[Jokeram]

I agree with hamburgerpimp and Don_Vito.... Senna was in a higher class than the rest.. yes Earnhardt was good, even great, but cannot compare anyone to Senna, maybe Shumacher in a couple of years.

 

[Jokeram]

Hey GL... where is this suit? I might be interested in it too..

 

[przero]

Except for the fact they only make 2 or 3 passes per race. Win the start, win the race. F1 = big bucks. All the greatest technology. But it ain't great racing. But they are (esp. Senna) great drivers. I was watching when he crashed. When he hit the wall, I knew it was over.Sad. Later that same day Earnhardt won. His first statement was to dedicate the race to Senna's fans. Now.....

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

<< Except for the fact they only make 2 or 3 passes per race. Win the start, win the race. F1 = big bucks. All the greatest technology. But it ain't great racing. But they are (esp. Senna) great drivers. I was watching when he crashed. When he hit the wall, I knew it was over.Sad. Later that same day Earnhardt won. His first statement was to dedicate the race to Senna's fans. Now..... >>



You point is well-taken, to a point. But the truly great F1 drivers are able to work through traffic just like their oval-racing brethren - it is just more difficult and requires more finesse and strategy on a tight F1 circuit. Hell, look at what Coulthard was able to do last weekend in Monaco - one of the most technical circuits in the world.

I just can't deal with oval racing generally, and NASCAR, especially on the superspeedways, just kills me with its monotony - those guys don't even shift on the big tracks! I like the aggression in NASCAR, and to some degree I appreciate that they don't rely on NASA-sized budgets like F1, but the racing itself is not for me. I know lots of folks enjoy it, which is fine with me - to each his own!

 

[przero]

You know the one other thing in F1 that I detest is team rules. where the leader is otrdered to let his teammate by for the points. Weird. but it does have it's moments!

 

[SirFshAlot]

5k? (US$) 20k?

I tried to get a coat worn by a climber to Everest on the trip that they found Mallory's body, and I lost the bid at $370.
Now who here has ever heard of Anker?

Senna stuff is worth bucks.

 

[AndrewR]

Earnhardt a better driver than Senna? LOL! Pardon me while I recover from that hilarity. Senna could make RIGHT turns!

How in the world do you value something like that? Bid what you can pay and what you think it's worth based on other Senna items you can locate on the net (not sure if that's even possible). Or, see if you can consult a sports memorabilia (sp?) expert.

Don't you hate when they don't price stuff??

 

[SirFshAlot]

a signed envelope

$2k for a mere helmet replica, not signed

&quot;This helmet is not a official replika. It's many more better!!! &quot;

 

[GL]

Thanks everyone. The suit is at an F1 shop in the Yorkville shopping district of Toronto. I don't believe the suit is signed, but they have Senna-signed driving gloves.

 

[GL]

(excuse my multiple posts...to make a long story short I can only post short msgs from work). Here's the shop's website. I think the suit's way too expensive for me but if anyone's interested I can check it out first hand for you when I visit the store.

 

[GL]

Picture of the actual suit.
Picture of '92 Monaco winning signed gloves
Pic of '91 McLaren champion suit (signed + dated)

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Neat site, but something tells me if you have to ask how much the suit costs, you can't afford it. I say you should go ahead and buy this, which also has historical significance and should be more fun .

I note that per their web page, they refer to driver suits as among the &quot;very high end ($1,000 - 50,000)&quot; of their merchandise, and note that 1997 a helmet worn by Senna in 1992 sold at auction for $40,000, plus a 15% buyer's premium. I assume these are Canadian dollars. The site has a rather lengthy section in which they talk about the investment potential of F1 memorabilia, which says to me they are likely to try to get top dollar for their merchandise.

Betcha they want at least $60K, and probably more, for the suit - if you can afford that I envy you!

 

[GL]

Hehe you're right. Right now I can't afford it but let's just say if my eggs hatch properly I'll probably be able to start splurging in a few years. I'd like to start dreaming now Damn..I totally missed that Ferrari! I really have to check this place out - it must be tucked away in a corner of Yorkville...I've never seen it there before.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Yeah, the store looks really neat, almost like a museum more than a retail outlet. They have some amazing items - God knows what that Ferrari is worth, but I would think a minimum of $750K and probably WAY more. I would have thought Ferrari would retain any and all cars that recent, or retire them to a museum or something.

 

[GL]

You wanna hear the crappy part about the store? Sales tax in Ontario is 8% and there is a federal sales tax of 7%. Assuming that Ferrari is US$750K (or CAN$1.153 Million) tax on that is US$112K (or CAN$173K). I hope this guy does under-the-table private sales

 

[stingbandel]

Senna was the greatest driver imo. I remember when he used to compete with prost. He was simply amazing. I think you can get more if you have his autograph or something...

Darno