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Zivic

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I drive a Corvette, and paid cash for it. As I did my CTS and my old beater Mazda Ranger.

I'm not some 24year old kid that reads car mags and thinks he knows he is talking about. :awe:

a GTR is soo much more than some common vette. Don't compare. I agree the auto can make better drivers out of some, but not a reason to hate on it. The GTR sets the bar in terms of performance.

Your vette is just some plastic GM car with fisher-price interior, that can be found in a garage or two on just about any street -> if you really want to get down to it. Sure the motor is decent, but it takes more than that for me to give it a second look. Heck I live kind of out in the country and I have more than a couple people around me that own vettes. WAY too common.
^that is not said to rip it apart... the vette is good bang for the buck, but not comparable to the GTR.

OP needs to buy this car. I may own one someday, but I think my next car will be an NSX or FD RX7

And in case you care what I drive:
06 Mitsubishi Lancer - Evo MR converted to 5spd with an FP red @ 30 psi.... a mere 501 awhp on E85
04 Nissan 350Z - APS twin turbo conversion @ 15 psi... a mere 550 rwhp on 92 pump gas
 

JackBurton

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a GTR is soo much more than some common vette. Don't compare. I agree the auto can make better drivers out of some, but not a reason to hate on it. The GTR sets the bar in terms of performance.

Your vette is just some plastic GM car with fisher-price interior, that can be found in a garage or two on just about any street -> if you really want to get down to it. Sure the motor is decent, but it takes more than that for me to give it a second look. Heck I live kind of out in the country and I have more than a couple people around me that own vettes. WAY too common.
^that is not said to rip it apart... the vette is good bang for the buck, but not comparable to the GTR.

OP needs to buy this car. I may own one someday, but I think my next car will be an NSX or FD RX7

And in case you care what I drive:
06 Mitsubishi Lancer - Evo MR converted to 5spd with an FP red @ 30 psi.... a mere 501 awhp on E85
04 Nissan 350Z - APS twin turbo conversion @ 15 psi... a mere 550 rwhp on 92 pump gas

Listen man, I like the GT-R too but Z06s are not that common. And whoever can afford a Z06 can afford a GT-R. They're not that exotic. It's like saying "I won't buy a Cobra because Mustangs are common." Yes Mustangs are very common, but I don't see a lot of 2011 Cobras rolling around. Yes they are more common than a GT-R, but still not that common. Same with Z06s and definitely ZR-1s.

I agree, the interior of the Vette is awful, but the performance (Z06) is awesome, ESPECIALLY when it's modded with a supercharger. :)
 

bargetrav

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a GTR is soo much more than some common vette. Don't compare. I agree the auto can make better drivers out of some, but not a reason to hate on it. The GTR sets the bar in terms of performance.

Your vette is just some plastic GM car with fisher-price interior, that can be found in a garage or two on just about any street -> if you really want to get down to it. Sure the motor is decent, but it takes more than that for me to give it a second look. Heck I live kind of out in the country and I have more than a couple people around me that own vettes. WAY too common.
^that is not said to rip it apart... the vette is good bang for the buck, but not comparable to the GTR.

OP needs to buy this car. I may own one someday, but I think my next car will be an NSX or FD RX7

And in case you care what I drive:
06 Mitsubishi Lancer - Evo MR converted to 5spd with an FP red @ 30 psi.... a mere 501 awhp on E85
04 Nissan 350Z - APS twin turbo conversion @ 15 psi... a mere 550 rwhp on 92 pump gas


LOL, I can give you props on the Evo I guess, they do very well on E85, althouh you still have trouble even besting a bolt on Z06 or cammed C6. The 350Z, how much cash did you dump into that pitiful thing to only make 550rwhp on twins? If it's making 550rwhp I'm sure you had to build the motor, etc. too.


And you're ragging on the Corvette while driving a Lancer (HAVE YOU SEEN THE INTERIOR ON THE OLD LANCERSs??!@!@?!@?!?@?!).


Jesus people, try sitting in one sometime, they have the 4LT option now on newer models with upgraded leather and many interior components. Sure, the base models are plain and the dash is plain, but it's not hideous, but of course that's all opinion anyway.

Saying the motor is not bad would be like saying the new Veryon is only "pretty fast" in a straight line, which is retarded. The entire driveline of the C6 series is top notch and can handle big power without replacing all the major components.
 

Castiel

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Listen man, I like the GT-R too but Z06s are not that common. And whoever can afford a Z06 can afford a GT-R. They're not that exotic. It's like saying "I won't buy a Cobra because Mustangs are common." Yes Mustangs are very common, but I don't see a lot of 2011 Cobras rolling around. Yes they are more common than a GT-R, but still not that common. Same with Z06s and definitely ZR-1s.

I agree, the interior of the Vette is awful, but the performance (Z06) is awesome, ESPECIALLY when it's modded with a supercharger. :)

Whats the point of buying a Z06 and then throwing a supercharger on it? Your warranty is null and void.
 

bargetrav

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Listen man, I like the GT-R too but Z06s are not that common. And whoever can afford a Z06 can afford a GT-R. They're not that exotic. It's like saying "I won't buy a Cobra because Mustangs are common." Yes Mustangs are very common, but I don't see a lot of 2011 Cobras rolling around. Yes they are more common than a GT-R, but still not that common. Same with Z06s and definitely ZR-1s.

I agree, the interior of the Vette is awful, but the performance (Z06) is awesome, ESPECIALLY when it's modded with a supercharger. :)


If you check production numbers, they only made 518 Z06's in 2010, not exactly a common car, however they've been around since 2006 (C6 that is) so of course production back then was better and also they've been around going on 6 years so you're naturally going to see more of them now.
 

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This thread is getting way off topic. its turning into a vette/GTR bashing contest.

both cars are not even in the same category.

people here are acting like kids now. This is about OP and if he should get a GTR. He never asked is there is another car or anything like that. he never asked about the vette or any other car for that matter. Stick to the topic.
 

JackBurton

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Whats the point of buying a Z06 and then throwing a supercharger on it? Your warranty is null and void.

You want it faster?

Speaking of supercharged Vettes (yes, I know this is getting off topic), I just saw the video below and my jaw just dropped.

WOW!

And that ain't your run of the mill Vette! That car is AMAZING!







And yes, the OP should get the GT-R. :)
 
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Elganja

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the vette and gtr are both nice cars... both have their plus's and minus's... GTR was never in the picture for me just from a pure maintenance perspective.

don't know why people always have to make it A VS B
 

Castiel

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This thread is getting way off topic. its turning into a vette/GTR bashing contest.

both cars are not even in the same category.

people here are acting like kids now. This is about OP and if he should get a GTR. He never asked is there is another car or anything like that. he never asked about the vette or any other car for that matter. Stick to the topic.

Its not a big deal. Have no problem with listening to peoples opinions on other cars.
 

KIAman

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OP, if I had the money and the opportunity, I would take that car in a heartbeat. At the price point, I cannot imagine any other car that looks/performs/drives better than the GTR.

DO IT!!!!!
 

Demo24

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While a nice choice, they are getting cheap for a reason. The transmissions really let this car down. Fine when your hustling but around town, horrid, and they have clutch issues costing a ridiculous amount to change.
 

Kirby

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Not my cup of tea (I think the GT-R is ugly), but get whatever the fuck you want.
 

Zivic

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LOL, I can give you props on the Evo I guess, they do very well on E85, althouh you still have trouble even besting a bolt on Z06 or cammed C6. The 350Z, how much cash did you dump into that pitiful thing to only make 550rwhp on twins? If it's making 550rwhp I'm sure you had to build the motor, etc. too.

I put enough into it... and some days I regret it, then I take it for a drive and any regrets go away. How is 550whp referred to as "only"? that is well into the 600's if you rate it BHP. I could have pushed it further -> maybe another 50-100 hp, but for a street car there wasn't much of a point. I can still do so if I feel I need to... that is the great thing about turbo cars. adjust boost pressure with a dial or computer and couple hrs on the dyno and you are set.

In comparison The Z06 that APS used for their twin turbo conversion R&D shipped to them via the shop that tunes my ZR.LINK to APS Z06. It made like 120 whp less on the same dyno as mine pulled (obviously before they boosted it). Considering that, I think my Z is plenty respectable for the money I have into it

And I don't know if I would call the Z33 pitiful. Sure it needed some help from the factory, but still a very well rounded car for the money



And you're ragging on the Corvette while driving a Lancer (HAVE YOU SEEN THE INTERIOR ON THE OLD LANCERSs??!@!@?!@?!?@?!).


Jesus people, try sitting in one sometime, they have the 4LT option now on newer models with upgraded leather and many interior components. Sure, the base models are plain and the dash is plain, but it's not hideous, but of course that's all opinion anyway.

I'll take my lancer ANY DAY of the week over the vette's interior. And then we are talking roughly half the money and it still is better. I know it isn't the greatest, but the evo is about so much more than the interior. It never pretends to be something it is not -> vette pretends to be some luxury'ish type sports car with things like the 4LT that is basically lipstick on a pig.

I refer to my lancer as a 15k dollar car sitting on a 20k dollar drive train. If you have never driven one, you need to. just an believable driving experience.


Saying the motor is not bad would be like saying the new Veryon is only "pretty fast" in a straight line, which is retarded. The entire driveline of the C6 series is top notch and can handle big power without replacing all the major components.

The motor is decent. I cannot deny that, but then again, a big motor making big power <- how can that be all that impressive? It does what it should. Anything less would be a disappointment. Compared to the GTR, that does everything you didn't think possible, it flat out doesn't compare.

I think the vette is a respectable performer I really do. But I look at them as an overall package and it isn't something I would really consider owning. There isn't anything that special about them. Especially when I would have to sit inside the thing and look at those hideous buttons/dash/console ;)

In the end, the GTR is really something special. Something any car enthusiast should be happy exists. It is somewhat attainable and can hang with cars 2-3 times as expensive. It doesn't give you the feeling there were corners cut when designing it, which I really feel is something obviously wrong with corvettes.


one last thing... to the lay person a vette is a vette is a vette. I know a Z06 is better than a standard C6, but to 90+% of the people it is just another vette.... that fact makes it common. And yes I say this knowing how common my Z is. But the fact remains, I can drive around my area all day (in good weather) and 'maybe' see one Z. All the while seeing at least a dozen vettes.

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Zap

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"The Nismo test driver consistently recorded 2.7 and 2.8 second 0-60 mph sprints on cold pavement in dry, high 40-degree weather - that's nearly a second quicker than last year's model."

Didn't they dumb down the launch control since release 3 years ago? The new one uses launch control - wonder if using it voids warranty?

Also, a blue colored "black edition?" LOL, what's next, a red car with "speed yellow" paint name?

This is about OP and if he should get a GTR. He never asked is there is another car or anything like that. he never asked about the vette or any other car for that matter. Stick to the topic.

That's the problem. The answer was and always is YES. We just didn't understand the question. :)
 

Zivic

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^ Vette more common than a Z? lol

I know how many Z's were produced and yes that in itself makes them them common. But doesn't change the fact, I have seen maybe 1 Z in my town, can spend a day out driving any be lucky to see another one all together. It is a rarer car in my area. Besides when did this conversation totally shift to the 350Z. I simply stated my cars because when I sit and read BS arguments on the net, I think to my self -> I wonder what this person drives that is making that statement........


My car is no corvette... nor does it ever pretend to be. it is what it is. What is LOL comical is comparing a vette to a GTR. If there were such a comparison of apples to oranges, that would be it. I personally wouldn't cross shop a vette and a GTR... 'maybe' the ZR1, but that starts to push my cross shopping into something else all together
 

Zivic

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Didn't they dumb down the launch control since release 3 years ago? The new one uses launch control - wonder if using it voids warranty?


The launch control thing was addressed.
launch control explained

What is kind of a gray area is what is considered "abuse" .... repeatedly launching the car will eventually break something regardless of what car you are driving. You tell me, at what point do you consider something abuse? When all this was going down in regards to the GTR and warranty issues, there were people that reportedly had 20-30 launches in a day ..... I would call that abuse.
 

Zivic

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There may be 1 Subaru in my town. I guess they are super rare too.

look up the production numbers on some of them... pretty rare.

I am glad you are completely obsessed with the rarity statements I made. While you think it is something to dwell on, I find it is just one MORE reason not to consider buying a vette when I see one every time I turn down a street
 

speedy2

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It's all relative. That's the point. There are plenty of other cars that litter the street. Yet people buy them. Some hate them. Some could care less. I find it hard to be a car enthusiast and be turned off to certain car because I see "X" amount of them on the street. I've just never been the person that needs to own the only specific car in a 200 mile radius to be happy. Just sayin'.
 

Sulaco

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oh what you've never heard of someone owning a vehicle before?

i have no reason what so ever to start taking pictures of my hard earned belongings just to appease some child with an apparent inferiority complex. Which wouldn't even make you happy to begin with.

While our economy is just now coming out of the crapper, there are a wide variety jobs that warrant the kind of salary to own such a car. i e government contracting.

Some child? Last I checked, if anything you post is to believed at all, I'm older than you.

And so that's a "no". Ah well, thanks for playing and amusing us all!
 

Zivic

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It's all relative. That's the point. There are plenty of other cars that litter the street. Yet people buy them. Some hate them. Some could care less. I find it hard to be a car enthusiast and be turned off to certain car because I see "X" amount of them on the street. I've just never been the person that needs to own the only specific car in a 200 mile radius to be happy. Just sayin'.

I am turned off so-to-speak by seeing a lot of them... it does make them less appealing to me. Take that as you may. It doesn't completely make up my opinion of them, but does contribute to my overall feeling on the car. When I pay big money for a car, I want to have a feeling I have something special..... not something I look down the street and see sitting in my neighbor's driveway. This doesn't make up my buying decision, but definitely plays a part.
 

SolMiester

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Been thinking about it ever since i saw one a few weeks ago in person. They're absolutely stunning and i've been tossing around the idea of buying a new one but i saw a used one on ebay and it has peaked my interest.

Right now i'm free and clear on my vehicles, own my home and have ample savings. What does everyone think?

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Ebay link

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...nkw=390283958436&_fvi=1&_rdc=1#ht_8888wt_1165

My mate got one about 6 mths ago, he loves it! I think they are an amazing car, but too small for me, Im over 6'2", and there aint much room, neither to they fit large golf bags very well!...
For the money, id rather an Aston....its not about speed...!