updatebitsandchipsAM4 Socket will be µOPGA and it will have 1331 pins

csbin

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http://www.bitsandchips.it/english/...cket-will-be-uopga-and-it-will-have-1331-pins

Future AMD AM4 Socket will be µOPGA, and it will have 1331 pins. A LGA solution will be used for Opteron Zen CPUs.

AM4 solution will have the virtue of putting together the plus points of the three actual AMD sockets: AM3+, FM2+ and AM1.
Like AM3+ Socket, AM4 will be able to support 140+ Watt CPUs and APUs. Like FM2+, AM4 will be able to support powerful integrated GPUs. Like AM1, AM4 will allow to realize budget mainboards, as much as high end mainboards: AM4 CPUs and APUs will have an integrated FCH, but a lot of features can be added thanks to external chipsets (more PCI-E lines for multi GPUs cofigurations, M.2 slots, etc).


update:http://www.bitsandchips.it/english/...holes-arranged-differently-than-older-sockets


AM2/AM2+/AM3/AM3+/FM1/FM2/FM2+ 96mm*48mm
AM4 90mm*54mm
 
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exar333

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Hopefully pcie 3.0? Lol
 

master_shake_

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is the northbridge dead now?

can we finally have good amd itx platforms?
 

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Hopefully pcie 3.0? Lol
Why would it not? AMD has supported pci-e 3.0 for some time now....FM2+ says hello.

If I'm not mistaken it's been out for over 2 years now.


I'm not sure why you'd think that they'd go a step back in the regard....
 
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Hopefully pcie 3.0? Lol

I'm sure it will. Not like that makes any difference in performance anyway, though. I still haven't seen PCIE2.0 x16 starve a card.
 
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x16 PCIe 3.0 for CPUs, x8 PCIe 3.0 for APUs and CPUs made from APUs.
 

exar333

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Why would it not? AMD has supported pci-e 3.0 for some time now....FM2+ says hello.

If I'm not mistaken it's been out for over 2 years now.


I'm not sure why you'd think that they'd go a step back in the regard....
AM3+ support for pcie 3.0??? For those who don't want an APU? :p
 
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PGA is probably a deal breaker for me.
 
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LGA for the server parts says a lot if true.
 

Shehriazad

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AM3+ support for pcie 3.0??? For those who don't want an APU? :p
What? Why would you now want PCIE 3.0 for some 6+ year old socket when AM4 is just about to be released??? This thread is also about AM4.

Giving some more longevity to an ANCIENT platform makes ZERO sense if you are just about to start selling some new stuff.
 

thilanliyan

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Don't want to deal with pins on chips anymore. Especially not a whole bunch more of smaller pins.
If you're careful does it matter if the pins are on the board or the chip?
I don't remember having issues with either type going back to the P4...unless you mean you want to go back to the slot type :\
 
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OMG what a let down.Another cpu release full of pins.. I was really hoping for pinless cpu's this time around.
 

PliotronX

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They couldn't throw six more pins on?

 

waltchan

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Wow, looks like I only need to buy FX-4100 for rest of my life, which it will depreciate down to $20 used.
 

Yuriman

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Wow, looks like I only need to buy FX-4100 for rest of my life, which it will depreciate down to $20 used.
If you're fine with how slow it is, yes. I don't personally find an FX-4100 to be useful for my needs, so it doesn't matter how cheap it is.
 

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I still haven't heard if this upcoming AMD AM4 Promontory chipset is designed by AMD or if they farmed it out to ASMEDIA like rumors have suggested. The FM2+ USB 3.0 controller was licensed from Renaesys(?) I believe. I suspect AMD still has chipset designers in house like the did for the just released AMD Opteron A1100 Seattle ARM chip which has dual 10-Gig Ethernet ports on board.
 

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Gahhh that sucks! Good thing I haven't invested in a new HSF recently.
Mounting holes may change, but maybe the retention mechanism has the same lugs so that the stock type coolers can still be used. They just released the Wraith and other low noise coolers. If they change everything then those would be obsolete immediately. I just can't see them making that type of decision. Of course, yes, if you have a Hyper 212 or some other aftermarket heatsink then it might be unusable but we'll see. It's possible that someone would make adapters of some kind.
 
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If you're careful does it matter if the pins are on the board or the chip?
I don't remember having issues with either type going back to the P4...unless you mean you want to go back to the slot type :\
That's okay, I have my own experiences. I don't like pins on chips.
 
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The Stilt

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I still haven't heard if this upcoming AMD AM4 Promontory chipset is designed by AMD or if they farmed it out to ASMEDIA like rumors have suggested. The FM2+ USB 3.0 controller was licensed from Renaesys(?) I believe. I suspect AMD still has chipset designers in house like the did for the just released AMD Opteron A1100 Seattle ARM chip which has dual 10-Gig Ethernet ports on board.
I don't think ASMedia will be designing the chipset itself, but simply provide the IPs (USB, SATA) for the new chipsets. Outsourcing the complete chipset is pretty much impossible IMO.

AMD is outsourcing every single IP they can. With Zen, let's just hope they won't be whisky tango'ed (zip ties and duct tape) together the same they were in Steamroller, and still in some extent in Excavator.
 


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