*update*vandalized again Is it just my poor observation or do most political oriented vandalisms attack the Republicans?

[NeoPTLD]

*update*
The brand new sticker have been up for about 14 hrs and it's already been vandalized. It doesn't need a replacement yet or does it?

act of a liberal

I had a "W" sticker on my dorm room door and it was ripped off by someone earlier this week. I promptly replaced it with another one, but it got defaced with a permanent market today. There are people in the same dorms with liberalist statements and they have not been vandalized to my knowledge. You'll see gripes about the system or politicians in a form of vandalism here and there. My observation have been that I have not seen a single anti-democrat or pro-Republican.

Just to give you examples of what I can see around here, there's a bus shelter on campus with "You can see through Bush's rhetoric like glass" written on it, bathroom wall and many other things engraved with "F*** Bush" and a few other things.


So the idea of freedom of expression to some people is it's perfectly good to supress the expression of people who favors conservatism, because it's a way of "expressing it", liberals should be allowed to make civil disturbance to make their point, but vandalism against their posters and arrests of protesters are considered denial of 1st amendment right and human rights?

Whatever happened to respect for other people's property? Great way to improve their own image. The non liberals who sees my mutilated sticker is going to get more impression that liberalism is about cheating(instead of expanding their campaign, they deface any posters and stickers that supports the opposing party).

 

[xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx]

The other side neither believes in, nor respects property rights and freedom of thought.

Put a 'Darwin Fish' on your car and watch the do-good jesus freaks deface that, too...so much for do unto others and the golden rule...

 

[rjain]

The Republicans just get out (or at least threaten to) their shotguns from their 4x4s when they disagree with "those liberals that are keeping our country from being great".

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: NeoPTLD... bathroom wall and many other things engraved with "F*** Bush" ...

Umm... This might be one of those "dual purpose" vandalisms It was on a bathroom wall - right?

CkG

 

[dpm]

I find generally that its the die-hard supporters of whichever party is currently out of power who are most vehement, and likely to go to extremes. I've seen this in a few countries, and it seems to be the rule

 

[XZeroII]

I have a friend who was a liberal, but recently because a conservative because he realized the same thing you just realized.

 

[XZeroII]

Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
The other side neither believes in, nor respects property rights and freedom of thought.

Put a 'Darwin Fish' on your car and watch the do-good jesus freaks deface that, too...so much for do unto others and the golden rule...

I've NEVER seen a religious person do that.

 

[outriding]

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
The other side neither believes in, nor respects property rights and freedom of thought.

Put a 'Darwin Fish' on your car and watch the do-good jesus freaks deface that, too...so much for do unto others and the golden rule...

I've NEVER seen a religious person do that.

I have.

 

[rjain]

Nah, religious people will just push (and succeed, if they're Christian) to legislate the 'Darwin Fish' as an obscene image and get you arrested.

 

[Fencer128]

I was under the impression that most US uni's had a left wing bias. Given that is it not expected that left-wing opinion will be dominant and if there is going to be any kind of politically motivated vandalism in all probability it will come from the left (running the numbers here)?

Now, is there a right-wing forum where you could compare?

I assure you - idiocy knows no particular political allegiance.

Cheers,

Andy

 

[Witling]

My experience has been that liberals deface things and shout down speakers with whom they don't agree. It has also been that any person who might really effect a change is shot by conservatives. JFK, RFK, Martin Luther, Rabin. Let's not forget the abortion doctors shot by conservatives. I mention this so that the original poster can contemplate it. I'm sure that he, and the overwhelming majority of conservatives don't support this, but when's the last time you saw a liberal shoot someone?

 

[rjain]

Liberals vandalize property. Conservatives vandalize people.

 

[XZeroII]

Originally posted by: rjain
Liberals vandalize property. Conservatives vandalize people.

Liberals tell you what you want to hear, Conservatives tell you what you need to hear, but with interesting little twists.

 

[Witling]

XZero, like when we were told Iraq had weapons of mass destruction?

 

[rjain]

Conservatives tell you what they want you to hear, you mean.

 

[Genesys]

Originally posted by: Whitling
XZero, like when we were told Iraq had weapons of mass destruction?

just because we havent found them doesnt mean they arent there.

lets use a bit of logic and history to examine the situation. saddam 'tested' nevrve gasses on the kurds. soldiers came homw from GW I with something called gulf war syndrome. there are 2 good examples of saddams possession of 'WMD' in the past.

so, if saddam had these nerve gasses in the past, and used them, what in your mind rationaizes that he doesnt have any now? because we havent found them yet? we have found items and facilities that can be used for such purposes. i have read about when UN inspectors would come to pay a visit they would find a new concrete floor and freshly painted walls in some of these facilities.

just because you cant see my computer, does that really mean i dont have one?

My experience has been that liberals deface things and shout down speakers with whom they don't agree. It has also been that any person who might really effect a change is shot by conservatives. JFK, RFK, Martin Luther, Rabin. Let's not forget the abortion doctors shot by conservatives. I mention this so that the original poster can contemplate it. I'm sure that he, and the overwhelming majority of conservatives don't support this, but when's the last time you saw a liberal shoot someone?

ummm, Oswald was a communist. Communism != Conservatism. I dont know the political associations of James Earl Ray or the guy that shot RFK. And you cant cross over Orthodox Judiast Conservatism with American Conservatism.

 

[dpm]

True Genesys, but bear in mind that there are many who think that gulf war syndrome may have something to do with the use of DU ammunition, rather than iraqi bioweapons.

 

[MonstaThrilla]

Originally posted by: outriding

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
The other side neither believes in, nor respects property rights and freedom of thought.

Put a 'Darwin Fish' on your car and watch the do-good jesus freaks deface that, too...so much for do unto others and the golden rule...

I've NEVER seen a religious person do that.

I have.

So have I.

 

[MonstaThrilla]

Originally posted by: NeoPTLD
I had a "W" sticker on my dorm room door and it was ripped off by someone earlier this week. I promptly replaced it with another one, but it got defaced with a permanent market today. There are people in the same dorms with liberalist statements and they have not been vandalized to my knowledge. You'll see gripes about the system or politicians in a form of vandalism here and there. My observation have been that I have not seen a single anti-democrat or pro-Republican.

Just to give you examples of what I can see around here, there's a bus shelter on campus with "You can see through Bush's rhetoric like glass" written on it, bathroom wall and many other things engraved with "F*** Bush" and a few other things.

Both sides are guilty. When I put posters up around my campus to join the Students For Dean group, I noticed a few days later that someone took the time to carefully rip out Dean's picture on them. Other flyers were ripped in half and generally mutilated in other ways.

Then another time on campus, a Christian group decided to put up a ridiculous amount of "Jesus loves you" posters up. I saw another kid ripping them down in front of me, and I didn't do a damn thing about it. I personally wouldn't have done so, but it was that kid's right to do it.

If I have the right to put those flyers up, other people have the right to tear them down. Same thing with your "W" sticker, even if it was on your door. Toughen up kid.

 

[Mean MrMustard]

Originally posted by: NeoPTLD
...allowed to make civil disturbance to make their point, but vandalism against their posters and arrests of protesters are considered denial of 1st amendment right and human rights?

How can you compare the 'vandalism' of your sticker to arresting protesters?

The government isn't coming in and telling you can't put up your 'W' or other Republicrat expressions. Only when you are arrested for being pro-Bush, can you seriously compare the two.

...and yes, I agree with the vandalism part. If caught, they should be prosecuted as such. Vandalism and protesting are most often vastly different.

 

[miguel]

Originally posted by: ELP
Vandalism and protesting are most often vastly different.

As far as freedom of speech goes, the degree to which your freedom is hindered does not matter.

 

[Witling]

Miguel, your post is interesting. Is this the same Miguel who thought that NAMBLA should be allowed to exist?

Genesys "just because we havent found them doesnt mean they arent there."

Oh yes, how slow of me. Kind of like unicorns, Santa Clause, and fairies. Genesys, we will never be able to conclusively prove that they don't exist. Having looked in 10,248,957 places -- maybe they're in the next place.

 

[miguel]

Yes, it's the same Miguel, whit. NAMBLA exists to harm children, that's a totally different thing. If you buy their line about "changing the laws" then that's your perogative. I wonder what you would do if NAMBLA was invited to your child's school to talk to the kids?

 

[sMiLeYz]

Who said anyone who writes "fvck bush" in the bathroom is a liberal? Thats news to me. The majority of the world must be liberal then, since Bush is the most unpopular American president in history.

Also remember who bombed the Oklahama building? Or murdered abortion doctors, and bombed Abortion clinics? Who as Whistling mention assassinated JFK, Martin Luther King, RFK? Far right wing crazies.

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: Whitling
My experience has been that liberals deface things and shout down speakers with whom they don't agree. It has also been that any person who might really effect a change is shot by conservatives. JFK, RFK, Martin Luther, Rabin. Let's not forget the abortion doctors shot by conservatives. I mention this so that the original poster can contemplate it. I'm sure that he, and the overwhelming majority of conservatives don't support this, but when's the last time you saw a liberal shoot someone?

Unabomber? Communist and far left socialist regimes? Eco-terrorists?

You're right...leftist extremists are fairy tales.