update to story where laywer kills man accused of molesting daughter

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: hungfarover
he's 50-something and lived with his parents.

mmorpg geeks unite.

while strange not uncommon (anymore sadly)

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
if the daughter is telling the truth, what kind of parent leaves the childs room unsecured at night....

i have young kids and i make sure my kids windows are closed at night and i and the wife check on them everytime we get up to go to the bathroom etc.

What kind of neighborhood do you live in?

My son would run screaming into our bedroom if someone came climbing in through his window at night.

heh yeap. my daughter would come screaming into my bedroom.

From a purely safety standpoint, this is assuming the child hears anything before the perp is already in the room.

If they're in the room and they don't hear anything, the entire house is jeopardized.

/paranoia

 

[BooGiMaN]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: hungfarover
he's 50-something and lived with his parents.

mmorpg geeks unite.

while strange not uncommon (anymore sadly)

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
if the daughter is telling the truth, what kind of parent leaves the childs room unsecured at night....

i have young kids and i make sure my kids windows are closed at night and i and the wife check on them everytime we get up to go to the bathroom etc.

What kind of neighborhood do you live in?

My son would run screaming into our bedroom if someone came climbing in through his window at night.

heh yeap. my daughter would come screaming into my bedroom.

im not saying mine kids wouldnt but apparently this kids daughter did not..so if that guy and his daughter were in the room together him checking in on her once ina while would have discovered him being there on 'starry nights'...

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: BooGiMaN

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: hungfarover
he's 50-something and lived with his parents.

mmorpg geeks unite.

while strange not uncommon (anymore sadly)

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
if the daughter is telling the truth, what kind of parent leaves the childs room unsecured at night....

i have young kids and i make sure my kids windows are closed at night and i and the wife check on them everytime we get up to go to the bathroom etc.

What kind of neighborhood do you live in?

My son would run screaming into our bedroom if someone came climbing in through his window at night.

heh yeap. my daughter would come screaming into my bedroom.

im not saying mine kids wouldnt but apparently this kids daughter did not..so if that guy and his daughter were in the room together him checking in on her once ina while would have discovered him being there on 'starry nights'...

very true.

but IF (i doubt it very much) if the guy was climbing into her bedroom it will be easy to find out.

heck 30 second looking will give you a good idea. Are the storm windows, screen still on? is it on the 2nd floor? is there a easy way to get up? etc

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: hungfarover
he's 50-something and lived with his parents.

mmorpg geeks unite.

while strange not uncommon (anymore sadly)

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
if the daughter is telling the truth, what kind of parent leaves the childs room unsecured at night....

i have young kids and i make sure my kids windows are closed at night and i and the wife check on them everytime we get up to go to the bathroom etc.

What kind of neighborhood do you live in?

My son would run screaming into our bedroom if someone came climbing in through his window at night.

heh yeap. my daughter would come screaming into my bedroom.

From a purely safety standpoint, this is assuming the child hears anything before the perp is already in the room.

If they're in the room and they don't hear anything, the entire house is jeopardized.

/paranoia

Our black lab is a very light sleeper, and a loud barker, and my son's room is on the second floor. It would be a very motivated individual who would climb through his bedroom window at night.

Why did the girl not mention it to her Mom right after it happened?

I think this whole thing is a case of a child making stuff up and the idiot parents taking her word as truth. Who knows why the kid didn't want to go home. Maybe the neighbor yelled at her once recently and that scared her. My 4 Y/O son certainly knows what street we live on and who our neighbors are.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: hungfarover
he's 50-something and lived with his parents.

mmorpg geeks unite.

while strange not uncommon (anymore sadly)

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
if the daughter is telling the truth, what kind of parent leaves the childs room unsecured at night....

i have young kids and i make sure my kids windows are closed at night and i and the wife check on them everytime we get up to go to the bathroom etc.

What kind of neighborhood do you live in?

My son would run screaming into our bedroom if someone came climbing in through his window at night.

heh yeap. my daughter would come screaming into my bedroom.

From a purely safety standpoint, this is assuming the child hears anything before the perp is already in the room.

If they're in the room and they don't hear anything, the entire house is jeopardized.

/paranoia

Our black lab is a very light sleeper, and a loud barker, and my son's room is on the second floor. It would be a very motivated individual who would climb through his bedroom window at night.

Why did the girl not mention it to her Mom right after it happened?

I think this whole thing is a case of a child making stuff up and the idiot parents taking her word as truth. Who knows why the kid didn't want to go home. Maybe the neighbor yelled at her once recently and that scared her. My 4 Y/O son certainly knows what street we live on and who our neighbors are.

well the parents did report the guy for yelling at kids and exposing himself (while INSIDE his house when they were looking through HIS windows)

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: hungfarover
he's 50-something and lived with his parents.

mmorpg geeks unite.

ohh found this

On June 30, Edington called cops to complain that James - who worked at a local funeral home and acted as a live-in caretaker for his elderly parents - was walking around his house in "a state of undress" and was visible from his neighbor's windows, according to police records.


so he was the caretaker of his parents. so it makes a little more sense for him to live there.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

there was enough speculating off of speculation in the first thread. I'm still holding my opinion that he is guilty until more details come out.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
there was enough speculating off of speculation in the first thread. I'm still holding my opinion that he is guilty until more details come out.

and that makes me thankful you are not a position of power over anyone.

 

[Tom]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
The girl "explained that she did not want to go home because of Barry," police said in the report. When her mother asked her to explain, the girl said "that Barry puts it on her belly and her nose," the report said.

and lets just finish it up.

" girl "explained that she did not want to go home because of Barry," police said in the report. When her mother asked her to explain, the girl said "that Barry puts it on her belly and her nose," the report said.

When her mother asked her when James does this, she replied, "He comes to me in the starry nights"


first it does not say what he puts on her belly or nose. 2nd WTF is starry nights? if that is the information he had to kill another guy he still deserves the electric chiar.

that story coupled with a creepy neighbor is all I would require also.

The only source you have for him being a "creepy neighbor" is the man who alledgedly killed him.

And it isn't clear what "a state of undress" means either. Some people are jumping to the conclusion that means he exposed himself, but it could mean he was in his underwear, or even just wasn't wearing a shirt. And he was in his own house, in his own bedroom.

Anyone wonder why the Edingtons didn't close the curtains on their own window, rather than calling the police ? And if he "exposed" himself, why no arrest ?


Not exactly compelling.

 

[Tom]

Originally posted by: hungfarover
he's 50-something and lived with his parents.

mmorpg geeks unite.

According to the news reports, he moved in with his elderly parents to care for them. There's no report that he always lived with them.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
there was enough speculating off of speculation in the first thread. I'm still holding my opinion that he is guilty until more details come out.

and that makes me thankful you are not a position of power over anyone.

we'll see what you have to say when they discover the dead neighbors semen and finger prints all over the childs bedroom.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
there was enough speculating off of speculation in the first thread. I'm still holding my opinion that he is guilty until more details come out.

and that makes me thankful you are not a position of power over anyone.

we'll see what you have to say when they discover the dead neighbors semen and finger prints all over the childs bedroom.

then yes its good he died. AT LEAST THEN THERE IS PROOF. right now there is ZERO proof.

IF it is proven he has mollested the child then fine. but to say its good the guy is dead on the word of 2 yr old is fcking retarded.

IF it is proven the guy should still serve some time. 3-6 months for it. BUT if not then he should be hung by a tall tree.


edit: and what if there is NO proof found? then you have a guy that murdered another on the word of a 2yr old.

right now you have a guy who killed another (lots and lots of evidance to that) and another who is acused (2 days after the murder even) of child mollestation.

 

[Kadarin]

At the moment I don't think we have enough information to judge anyone here.

 

[CollectiveUnconscious]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
there was enough speculating off of speculation in the first thread. I'm still holding my opinion that he is guilty until more details come out.

and that makes me thankful you are not a position of power over anyone.

we'll see what you have to say when they discover the dead neighbors semen and finger prints all over the childs bedroom.

You have no evidence other than a 2-year-old girl's testimony (which is worthless, as any competent developmental psychologist will tell you).

 

[BooGiMaN]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
there was enough speculating off of speculation in the first thread. I'm still holding my opinion that he is guilty until more details come out.

so your ok being killed on the word of a 2 yr old...after all i dont know you personally and you have a creepy picture so the 2 yr old saying you touched her must make you guilty...

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: BooGiMaN

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
there was enough speculating off of speculation in the first thread. I'm still holding my opinion that he is guilty until more details come out.

so your ok being killed on the word of a 2 yr old...after all i dont know you personally and you have a creepy picture so the 2 yr old saying you touched her must make you guilty...

we'll see how it pans out.

 

[randay]

I think both sides are judging the whole incident unfairly because all the facts arent available anyway. How do you know that edington didnt get a confession out of the guy then went nuts and stabbed him to death?

 

[BooGiMaN]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: BooGiMaN

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
there was enough speculating off of speculation in the first thread. I'm still holding my opinion that he is guilty until more details come out.

so your ok being killed on the word of a 2 yr old...after all i dont know you personally and you have a creepy picture so the 2 yr old saying you touched her must make you guilty...

we'll see how it pans out.

im not saying he isn't guilty but i would wait and make sure, i would want to be positive that the man im going to send to hell did indeed hurt my daughter....i could then face the consequences

finding out i killed an innocent man and in the process wrecked my family and the guys family by acting rashly would probably drive me insane, while i rotted away in jail not being able to see my family or be there for emotional and financial support.

 

[chambersc]

When her mother asked her when James does this, she replied, "He comes to me in the starry nights."

Although I sympathize with the father, he still killed an innocent man. Whether or not he did it is moot because he wasn't/will never be convicted and thus proven guilty. The secret died with him.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
there was enough speculating off of speculation in the first thread. I'm still holding my opinion that he is guilty until more details come out.

and that makes me thankful you are not a position of power over anyone.

we'll see what you have to say when they discover the dead neighbors semen and finger prints all over the childs bedroom.

then yes its good he died. AT LEAST THEN THERE IS PROOF. right now there is ZERO proof.

IF it is proven he has mollested the child then fine. but to say its good the guy is dead on the word of 2 yr old is fcking retarded.

IF it is proven the guy should still serve some time. 3-6 months for it. BUT if not then he should be hung by a tall tree.


edit: and what if there is NO proof found? then you have a guy that murdered another on the word of a 2yr old.

right now you have a guy who killed another (lots and lots of evidance to that) and another who is acused (2 days after the murder even) of child mollestation.

Agreed x 1000 :thumbsup:

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: randay
I think both sides are judging the whole incident unfairly because all the facts arent available anyway. How do you know that edington didnt get a confession out of the guy then went nuts and stabbed him to death?

If I have a blowtorch, a hammer, and a knife, I could get you to admit that you fvcked Prince Charles in the arse while getting drilled from behind by Queen Elizabeth before I killed you. It still doesn't make it true.

 

[randay]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: randay
I think both sides are judging the whole incident unfairly because all the facts arent available anyway. How do you know that edington didnt get a confession out of the guy then went nuts and stabbed him to death?

If I have a blowtorch, a hammer, and a knife, I could get you to admit that you fvcked Prince Charles in the arse while getting drilled from behind by Queen Elizabeth before I killed you. It still doesn't make it true.

Who told you that? Was it Bob? It was Bob wasn't it? That son of a bitch...

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
starry nights is just the way the child chose to describe "night time" its quite obvious what it means. "it" i dont care if "it" is a fork, teddy bear or his fried chicken.

so if the guy gave the girl a teddy bear and was playing with her (wich many here have done with 2 yr olds) its ok to kill him?

if it involves coming into her room at night yes

lest just make up shi*t now. :roll:

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
starry nights is just the way the child chose to describe "night time" its quite obvious what it means. "it" i dont care if "it" is a fork, teddy bear or his fried chicken.

so if the guy gave the girl a teddy bear and was playing with her (wich many here have done with 2 yr olds) its ok to kill him?

if it involves coming into her room at night yes

lest just make up shi*t now. :roll:

well considering his position he has to add stuff so he does not seem so psycho.

 

[Tom]

Originally posted by: randay
I think both sides are judging the whole incident unfairly because all the facts arent available anyway. How do you know that edington didnt get a confession out of the guy then went nuts and stabbed him to death?

There is a big difference between pure speculation, there's no report of any such confession, and looking at what has been reported and pointing out that so far anyway there's no evidence that there was a molestation.

All there is is this-

Alledgedly a 2 year old child made a statement to the Mother. However, there is a reason to wonder if the statement was made at all. That being that no authority of any kind was told about the statement until after the killing of Mr James had happened. And apparently a good deal of time passed between the alledged child's statement and the killing.

Next, if the child actually did make the statement, what did it mean ? Assuming the Mother's interpretation is correct, what are the circumstances where the molestation could have occurred ? So far, there's been no reporting of how and when Mr James had any contact with the child.

But there is actual evidence, not speculation, that Mr Edington had a grievance with Mr James, apart from the molestation claim.

So, is it better to form an opinion based on facts, or speculation ?