*update* SOUTH DAKOTA...R's may lose chance at Senate control because of....KANSAS

[sportage]

Well... as a freaking lefty liberal demokrat, I'm beginning to concede that the republicans will indeed take the US senate.
After watching the US senate debate from iOwa between that loony toons farm animal castrating woman iOwa republican senate member Joni Ernst and the democratic Rep. Bruce Braley, as crazy as Ernst is, Bruce Braley is himself pretty pathetic.
This vacant US senate seat should have been a no brainer easy win for iOwa democrats.
Especially with filling a democrat seat held for years by the great and admired Tom Harkin.
But it's becoming obvious that Bruce Braley was simply a very poor choice for this challenge.
He is an extremely bad choice.
If he cannot win when up against someone as loony bat-shet-nutz as Joni Ernst, then WTF.

I don't know what the hell iOwa democrats were thinking, or if they were so arrogant that they felt ANY democrat was good enough, and had this vacancy under their belt.
Now, it doesn't look that way, at all.

The loony castrater Ernst will probably win, and democrats will lose not only this election, but the entire US senate as well.

Sometimes I have to wonder if it's the drugs?
And pot isn't even legal in iOwa....

PS. Anyone interested can search this debate on youtube. Good for a laugh.
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[compuwiz1]

Polls indicate that Dems are losing badly. I get where the left was coming from. They wanted change. Well, you can't have change at any expense, especially when the only funding for "said change" was gonna come from government. It was a train wreck. They should have found a way to steal that money back from the 1% and they hoped the government would have stolen that money for them. Problem is, the government is "in bed" with that 1%. Anyone stupid enough to believe that the government works for democrats or republicans is stupid enough to let both sides continue to steal from all of us. Our government no longer works for us. They want to rule us. Wake the fuck up!

 

[senseamp]

At least you recognize that:

Problem is, the government is "in bed" with that 1%.

 

[werepossum]

Well... as a freaking lefty liberal demokrat, I'm beginning to concede that the republicans will indeed take the US senate.
After watching the US senate debate from iOwa between that loony toons farm animal castrating woman iOwa republican senate member Joni Ernst and the democratic Rep. Bruce Braley, as crazy as Ernst is, Bruce Braley is himself pretty pathetic.
This vacant US senate seat should have been a no brainer easy win for iOwa democrats.
Especially with filling a democrat seat held for years by the great and admired Tom Harkin.
But it's becoming obvious that Bruce Braley was simply a very poor choice for this challenge.
He is an extremely bad choice.
If he cannot win when up against someone as loony bat-shet-nutz as Joni Ernst, then WTF.

I don't know what the hell iOwa democrats were thinking, or if they were so arrogant that they felt ANY democrat was good enough, and had this vacancy under their belt.
Now, it doesn't look that way, at all.

The loony castrater Ernst will probably win, and democrats will lose not only this election, but the entire US senate as well.

Sometimes I have to wonder if it's the drugs?
And pot isn't even legal in iOwa....

PS. Anyone interested can search this debate on youtube. Good for a laugh.
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Maybe, but you should never underestimate the Pubbies' ability to assemble a circular firing squad. In Kansas in particular, the Tea Party is still deciding whether to stay home. I'd bet money that some of those who would be staying home are now counted as likely voters, making Roberts that much less likely to prevail.

Personally I'd like to see the GOP barely take the Senate just to prevent Obama's more egregious nominations, but not by so much that they feel they have a mandate to do anything. I loves me some gridlock.

 

[trenchfoot]

Maybe, but you should never underestimate the Pubbies' ability to assemble a circular firing squad. In Kansas in particular, the Tea Party is still deciding whether to stay home. I'd bet money that some of those who would be staying home are now counted as likely voters, making Roberts that much less likely to prevail.

Personally I'd like to see the GOP barely take the Senate just to prevent Obama's more egregious nominations, but not by so much that they feel they have a mandate to do anything. I loves me some gridlock.

You bring up a very good point. I've seen how the Repubs up on the hill over-react and over-reach when given election victories, especially victories where they have been denied for, politically speaking, a "long time". This led to backfiring and backlash that really hurt the party. I do hope the party has learned some painful lessons from that, although I also prescribe to the old adage that for some habits, it's hard to teach and old dog new tricks, unless it's a trick that makes the old tricks work even better.

 

[senseamp]

The only thing GOP has learned is scorched earth works for them politically, even if America is the one in flames.
When you can't govern, make the country ungovernable to even out the field.

 

[soundforbjt]

Well... as a freaking lefty liberal demokrat, I'm beginning to concede that the republicans will indeed take the US senate.
After watching the US senate debate from iOwa between that loony toons farm animal castrating woman iOwa republican senate member Joni Ernst and the democratic Rep. Bruce Braley, as crazy as Ernst is, Bruce Braley is himself pretty pathetic.
This vacant US senate seat should have been a no brainer easy win for iOwa democrats.
Especially with filling a democrat seat held for years by the great and admired Tom Harkin.
But it's becoming obvious that Bruce Braley was simply a very poor choice for this challenge.
He is an extremely bad choice.
If he cannot win when up against someone as loony bat-shet-nutz as Joni Ernst, then WTF.

I don't know what the hell iOwa democrats were thinking, or if they were so arrogant that they felt ANY democrat was good enough, and had this vacancy under their belt.
Now, it doesn't look that way, at all.

The loony castrater Ernst will probably win, and democrats will lose not only this election, but the entire US senate as well.

Sometimes I have to wonder if it's the drugs?
And pot isn't even legal in iOwa....

PS. Anyone interested can search this debate on youtube. Good for a laugh.
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[Doc Savage Fan]

I diots
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Wandering or Walking....never heard Wondering.

Best thing that ever came out of Iowa? I-80

lol...used to live there.

 

[soundforbjt]

Wandering or Walking....never heard Wondering.

Best thing that ever came out of Iowa? I-80

lol...used to live there.

I did too, best move I ever made was moving away.

 

[werepossum]

You bring up a very good point. I've seen how the Repubs up on the hill over-react and over-reach when given election victories, especially victories where they have been denied for, politically speaking, a "long time". This led to backfiring and backlash that really hurt the party. I do hope the party has learned some painful lessons from that, although I also prescribe to the old adage that for some habits, it's hard to teach and old dog new tricks, unless it's a trick that makes the old tricks work even better.

Agreed, although I certainly wouldn't want my money riding on the GOP learning any lessons beyond better disguising the same old tricks. In the mean time, if I could vote to have whichever party loses Congress gain the White House, that would be the first box I'd mark.

This is why all politicians should be subject to term limits. Roberts has no more respect for or attachment to Kansas than does Schumer or Pelosi.

Wandering or Walking....never heard Wondering.

Best thing that ever came out of Iowa? I-80

lol...used to live there.

 

[sportage]

The only thing GOP has learned is scorched earth works for them politically, even if America is the one in flames.
When you can't govern, make the country ungovernable to even out the field.

So true.
Republicans never learn a lesson.
That is not in their nature.
They take their advantage as if it were their last chance.
And while their days of glory might be limited because of that overreach, in that short time they can do great damage.
Republicans constantly move the line in the sand further and further to the far right.
Then once democrats re-regain any power, they are forced to negotiate far to the right of center.
This happens time after time.

That is why you have Obama sending in troops back to the very areas he pledged to end involvement. And democrats turning on their own liberal values to satisfy some far right agenda.
It's pathetic.

I don't care or believe what any republican candidate says about co-operating for the good of the cause, if he/she were elected.

TAKE NOTE:
We all know exactly the agenda of republicans should they take the US senate.
No one is fooling anyone.
Republicans will keep it simple.

#1, repeal Obamacare regardless of the millions of newly insured that would hurt.
Regardless of the repeal and elimination of reforms like pre-existings, cap limits, wellness preventative care, and reducing healthcare costs.

#2, A constitutional amendment to ban SS marriage.

#3, repeal Rove vs Wade.

#4, de-fund agencies like the EPA.

#5, stop and block anything and everything Obama.

and #6, repeal and reverse everything Obama.

And THAT will be their agenda, and their only agenda, should republicans take the senate.
That, you can take to the bank.

 

[Jhhnn]

^^^

You forgot Jerb Creator! tax cuts, because deficits only matter when Dems are in charge.

 

[First]

***Update 10-8-14:

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/10/democrats-jump-into-south-dakota-race-111707.html?hp=f3

The Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee plans to drop $1 million into South Dakota in a last-minute effort to put a four-way race in play and scramble Republicans’ calculus to win back the Senate.

The committee hopes to be on TV by Monday with attack ads against GOP front-runner Mike Rounds that are likely to focus on his role in an immigration visa scandal.

That could boost either Democrat Rick Weiland or former GOP Sen. Larry Pressler, who is running as an independent and told POLITICO on Wednesday that he hasn’t decided which party he would caucus with if elected.

The Democratic investment, combined with the uncertainty over Pressler’s allegiances, could force the national GOP to spend in a red state essential to their hopes of winning the majority and that they thought had been put away months ago. Democratic Sen. Tim Johnson is retiring.

The DSCC’s plans, first reported by Bloomberg News, were confirmed by POLITICO.
Rounds, a former governor, is stuck far below 50 percent in the polls. He’s a weak fundraiser — coming up far short of initial plans to raise $9 million for the race — and he’s refused to run negative ads.

Weiland, a former Tom Daschle staffer, has complained about the lack of national help from Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and the DSCC. The fourth candidate in the race is Gordon Howie, an independent running to Rounds’ right.

The DSCC has polled South Dakota four times, according to Bloomberg, and found the race close enough last week to decide they should go in. A robopoll from the Democratic firm Public Policy Polling, conducted for Weiland’s campaign, last week showed Rounds at 35 percent to 28 percent for Weiland, 24 percent for Pressler and 8 percent for Howie.

The National Republican Senatorial Committee noted that Bloomberg’s report says Democrats think Pressler or Weiland would both caucus with Democrats if elected.

“Harry Reid is a desperate man who will throw anyone under the bus, including South Dakota’s Tom Daschle,” said the NRSC’s Brad Dayspring. “Mike Rounds is well-positioned to win the race, no matter what stunts and secret deals Democrats in Washington try to pull to elect either liberal in South Dakota. South Dakotans know any deal with Harry Reid is a deal with the Devil.”

In an interview Wednesday, Pressler said that if he were to win, he would “wait until I get there” to decide which party to caucus with. He said he would try to retain his seniority from his old Senate experience but also seek to get named to the Indian Affairs Committee, as well as an Appropriations subcommittee dealing with Native American issues.

Moreover, he said he’d choose the party that will give preference to his issues: cutting spending on certain overseas military expenditures and balancing the budget through spending cuts and tax increases. He said he would serve only one six-year term, ensuring he wouldn’t have to spend any time fundraising as a senator.

Pressler said he had not spoken with the DSCC or Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, but he has spoken on several occasions with Maine Sen. Angus King, an independent who caucuses with Democrats.

The DSCC’s investment is the latest development this week in what had been an otherwise sleepy Senate race.

The May Day super PAC, focused on campaign finance reform, announced Tuesday that it is part of a coalition with liberal interest groups that will spend at least $2 million to defeat Rounds. An ad currently on the air praises Weiland.

A group in that coalition, Every Voice Action, told the Argus Leader of Sioux Falls that it will shift from ads attacking Rounds to targeting Pressler — all in an effort to boost Weiland.

National Democrats have a cash advantage, and a million dollars will go much further in a cheap state like South Dakota than a large state like North Carolina — or a state like Alaska, where the airwaves have been saturated for some time.

Another poll just out from respected SurveyUSA today shows Rounds, the Repub, up just 3 points, confirming internal Dem polling from PPP in the Politico article. This could be just like the Dem's Heidi Heitkamp's surprise Senate victory in North Dakota last year, and South Dakota apparently has a habit of evenly splitting their congressional/senate candidates between parties despite being a very conservative state (why I have no idea).

 

[cabri]

Dems apparently are giving up on Kentucky

Democratic ads off the air in Kentucky Senate race

IFLORENCE, Ky. (AP) — The Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee has stopped running TV ads in Kentucky's U.S. Senate race, a severe blow to Alison Lundergan Grimes in her challenge to Republican leader Mitch McConnell.

n a statement issued three weeks before the Nov. 4 election and a day after the candidates' sole debate, the committee said Tuesday that it had spent more than $2 million in Kentucky and continued to fund get-out-the-vote operations. However, the committee made no commitment to go back on the air in support of Grimes ....

 

[TheSlamma]

The Secretary of State is an idiot who is creating free publicity for the independent by perpetuating this ballot controversy.

Yes, the guy paying out the most funds should always win.

 

[werepossum]

***Update 10-8-14:

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/10/democrats-jump-into-south-dakota-race-111707.html?hp=f3



Another poll just out from respected SurveyUSA today shows Rounds, the Repub, up just 3 points, confirming internal Dem polling from PPP in the Politico article. This could be just like the Dem's Heidi Heitkamp's surprise Senate victory in North Dakota last year, and South Dakota apparently has a habit of evenly splitting their congressional/senate candidates between parties despite being a very conservative state (why I have no idea).

Because both parties are full of politicians and therefore not to be trusted?