Update on Richard Steele and the infamous Oreos

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong

Originally posted by: zendari
How did the oreos end up at his feet?

Maybe his press secretary ran out of milk and dropped them?

Regardless, all accounts of him being "pelted" (I believe that was the description most used by the right) were exagerations at best and outright lies at worst. Either the WaTimes and the rest of the "right-wing media"© should not be taken as a credible source by you anymore (they couldn't call Steele to verify the story!?.....he's a public official, I'm sure they could have gotten his number from directory services) or you shouldn't be so easily led to believe lies without a little fact checking of your own.

But the story of the oreo's being tossed was not a mistake. That is the main story here.

Have you found any non-right-wing affiliated news source to confirm this yet? The point I made in the original thread is still valid....

Do you think that a debate for Lt. Gov. isn't going to be covered by a swarm of local media? Don't you think that one of the many cameramen that were there would have caught at least ONE FREAKING OREO being thrown? After all, this is supposedly after the debate and he is being interviewed by reporters. Shouldn't one of them seen it or been hit by the misdirected throw?

The answer is a simple one. The event never occured. It is simply a PR stunt to garner votes.

You can believe whatever you want. I am sure those cookies were left over after a previous event and just happened to remain at the feet of a black republican lmao.

You find one story written by a left leaning newspaper that questions the validity of the story and all is better in your world, and to you, that is all that matters.

Once again, quit dodging, can you show any source that isn't right-wing affiliated that corroberates that a single Oreo was thrown?

I don't want something that states that so and so (read any right wing flunky that has since retracted) stated that Oreos were thrown, I want an account that is definitive. Like I said, this was a debate for the 2nd most powerful position in the state. There had to be many reporters and news sources there. Why did none of them have this account?

Also, just to save you some trouble:

Link

News reports from the night of the Sept. 26 debate make no mention of cookies. The first reference came five days later in an article in The Sun in which Schurick, then a spokesman for the Ehrlich campaign, said cookies were distributed in the audience.

Just admit it, you've been had. You were gullible enough to believe the GOP without doing any kind of background checking. Tsk, tsk.

We obviously have an incident where the evidence is shown to be where the original story puts it.

Why dont you show me some evidence on how the cookie got there outside of circumstantial evidence where it was left over and the cleaning crew missed it?

Like I said whatever makes you feel better in your world.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: azazyel

Originally posted by: Genx87
Oh you showed me. Next time Lance goes on a pie or oreo cookie throwing spree then Ill change my mind.

Oh, I get it! Throwing oreos and pies is consider athleticism to you. I have always been under the impression that things that would be considered athletic would require you to get off your couch.

What do you think it takes to coordinate throwing a pie? Certainly your reading ability wont help you there. Your 2nd sentence doesnt even make sense.

 

[RightIsWrong]

Originally posted by: Genx87

We obviously have an incident where the evidence is shown to be where the original story puts it.

Why dont you show me some evidence on how the cookie got there outside of circumstantial evidence where it was left over and the cleaning crew missed it?

Like I said whatever makes you feel better in your world.

Are you being deliberately obtuse or are you just illiterate? The link was there for you to read the whole story. Let me quote you a couple of lines from it.

News reports from the night of the Sept. 26 debate make no mention of cookies. The first reference came five days later in an article in The Sun in which Schurick, then a spokesman for the Ehrlich campaign, said cookies were distributed in the audience.

.........

Several audience members who attended the debate have told The Sun that they saw no cookies.

"It didn't happen here," said Vander Harris, operations manager of the Morgan fine arts center. "I was in on the cleanup, and we found no cookies or anything else abnormal."

The reporters covering that night didn't make the claim that "no cookies were thrown"....they didn't see ANY cookies at all!!!

Once again, show a source that states definitively that there were cookies even on the premise.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: zendari
These aren't exactly NFL quarterbacks tossing the oreos. They missed.

No surprise, seems like most of the pussies are nothing but big talking arm chair wimps. Remember when a couple of liberal baffoons couldnt even hit Ann Coulter from 3 feet away with a pie?

How unathletic can you possibly be?

Kerry & football

See, I look at that page an laugh. You look at that page and form a broad political opinion. That's the difference between liberals and conservatives

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: azazyel

Originally posted by: Genx87
No surprise, seems like most of the pussies are nothing but big talking arm chair wimps. Remember when a couple of liberal baffoons couldnt even hit Ann Coulter from 3 feet away with a pie?

How unathletic can you possibly be?

OMFG, you have got to be joking. Um, you might want to look up the political views of Lance Armstrong.

Oh you showed me. Next time Lance goes on a pie or oreo cookie throwing spree then Ill change my mind.

Yeah right, I think there is a better chance of you changing your diaper than your mind

 

[azazyel]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: azazyel

Originally posted by: Genx87
Oh you showed me. Next time Lance goes on a pie or oreo cookie throwing spree then Ill change my mind.

Oh, I get it! Throwing oreos and pies is consider athleticism to you. I have always been under the impression that things that would be considered athletic would require you to get off your couch.

What do you think it takes to coordinate throwing a pie? Certainly your reading ability wont help you there. Your 2nd sentence doesnt even make sense.

Coordination != Athleticism and you can throw anything while being on a couch.

 

[CitizenKain]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: azazyel

Originally posted by: Genx87
Oh you showed me. Next time Lance goes on a pie or oreo cookie throwing spree then Ill change my mind.

Oh, I get it! Throwing oreos and pies is consider athleticism to you. I have always been under the impression that things that would be considered athletic would require you to get off your couch.

What do you think it takes to coordinate throwing a pie? Certainly your reading ability wont help you there. Your 2nd sentence doesnt even make sense.

It must be fun in magical make-up land.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong

Originally posted by: Genx87

We obviously have an incident where the evidence is shown to be where the original story puts it.

Why dont you show me some evidence on how the cookie got there outside of circumstantial evidence where it was left over and the cleaning crew missed it?

Like I said whatever makes you feel better in your world.

Are you being deliberately obtuse or are you just illiterate? The link was there for you to read the whole story. Let me quote you a couple of lines from it.

News reports from the night of the Sept. 26 debate make no mention of cookies. The first reference came five days later in an article in The Sun in which Schurick, then a spokesman for the Ehrlich campaign, said cookies were distributed in the audience.

.........

Several audience members who attended the debate have told The Sun that they saw no cookies.

"It didn't happen here," said Vander Harris, operations manager of the Morgan fine arts center. "I was in on the cleanup, and we found no cookies or anything else abnormal."

The reporters covering that night didn't make the claim that "no cookies were thrown"....they didn't see ANY cookies at all!!!

Once again, show a source that states definitively that there were cookies even on the premise.

You are contradicting your own story.
Good work.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: azazyel

Originally posted by: Genx87
No surprise, seems like most of the pussies are nothing but big talking arm chair wimps. Remember when a couple of liberal baffoons couldnt even hit Ann Coulter from 3 feet away with a pie?

How unathletic can you possibly be?

OMFG, you have got to be joking. Um, you might want to look up the political views of Lance Armstrong.

Oh you showed me. Next time Lance goes on a pie or oreo cookie throwing spree then Ill change my mind.

Yeah right, I think there is a better chance of you changing your diaper than your mind

Ahh there is red dawn again with the personal insults. It take a lot of brain power to come up with those. Keep it up!

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: azazyel

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: azazyel

Originally posted by: Genx87
Oh you showed me. Next time Lance goes on a pie or oreo cookie throwing spree then Ill change my mind.

Oh, I get it! Throwing oreos and pies is consider athleticism to you. I have always been under the impression that things that would be considered athletic would require you to get off your couch.

What do you think it takes to coordinate throwing a pie? Certainly your reading ability wont help you there. Your 2nd sentence doesnt even make sense.

Coordination != Athleticism and you can throw anything while being on a couch.

Sure it does.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: azazyel

Originally posted by: Genx87
No surprise, seems like most of the pussies are nothing but big talking arm chair wimps. Remember when a couple of liberal baffoons couldnt even hit Ann Coulter from 3 feet away with a pie?

How unathletic can you possibly be?

OMFG, you have got to be joking. Um, you might want to look up the political views of Lance Armstrong.

Oh you showed me. Next time Lance goes on a pie or oreo cookie throwing spree then Ill change my mind.

Yeah right, I think there is a better chance of you changing your diaper than your mind

Ahh there is red dawn again with the personal insults. It take a lot of brain power to come up with those. Keep it up!

Awhaaaay. Don't be so touchy, see the wink emoticon? It means I was joking, I know you don't wear diapers! You don't do you?

 

[azazyel]

Originally posted by: Genx87
Coordination != Athleticism and you can throw anything while being on a couch.

Sure it does.

[/quote]

So you would consider people who play pool, darts, pinball and who can fling cards athletes? Let me guess, you lettered in band in High school didn't you? And you probably bought a jacket for it.

 

[Train]

So let me sum up the OP:

1. Story ran about somebody getting pelted with oreos.
2. Story turned out to be exagerated.
3. OP concludes this means theres a Right Wing consiracy in the media.
4. OP calls out a forum member by name (last I checked, a no-no)

I think this registers as about a 7 out of 10 on the Troll scale.

 

[RightIsWrong]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong

Originally posted by: Genx87

We obviously have an incident where the evidence is shown to be where the original story puts it.

Why dont you show me some evidence on how the cookie got there outside of circumstantial evidence where it was left over and the cleaning crew missed it?

Like I said whatever makes you feel better in your world.

Are you being deliberately obtuse or are you just illiterate? The link was there for you to read the whole story. Let me quote you a couple of lines from it.

News reports from the night of the Sept. 26 debate make no mention of cookies. The first reference came five days later in an article in The Sun in which Schurick, then a spokesman for the Ehrlich campaign, said cookies were distributed in the audience.

.........

Several audience members who attended the debate have told The Sun that they saw no cookies.

"It didn't happen here," said Vander Harris, operations manager of the Morgan fine arts center. "I was in on the cleanup, and we found no cookies or anything else abnormal."

The reporters covering that night didn't make the claim that "no cookies were thrown"....they didn't see ANY cookies at all!!!

Once again, show a source that states definitively that there were cookies even on the premise.

You are contradicting your own story.
Good work.

Really? Where and what is the contradiction?

My OP was that there was a completely fictional story put out by the GOP. It was bought and sold by the right-wing media© and it's mindless followers aka Zendari and yourself. I asked where the outrage was from your ilk that you had been had and, predictably, there was only backpeddling and defense of those that wronged you. I have, in each post since, stuck to that same theme.

You can't even admit to the fact that them not even interviewing the person that was the supposed target of the attack shows that the likelyhood of the incident occuring is dramatically diminished! They took a freaking PR guy's version of the story and let that stand as fact. Actually, that's wrong. They expanded on it!!!

Once again, got a single source to verify that there was even an Oreo on the premises? It must be nice living in a world where reality is something that you never have to deal with.

 

[azazyel]

Originally posted by: Train
So let me sum up the OP:

1. Story ran about somebody getting pelted with oreos.
2. Story turned out to be exagerated.
3. OP concludes this means theres a Right Wing consiracy in the media.
4. OP calls out a forum member by name (last I checked, a no-no)

I think this registers as about a 7 out of 10 on the Troll scale.

Take a look at the original thread about this...

Blacks Not Allowed to be Conservative?

 

[Genx87]

Your first story quotes him as saying the Oreos were at my feet.
The last story claims there werent even cookies at the event and several people didnt see cookies.

So which is it?

You arent going to take Steeles word for it? Sounds kind of hypocritical of you considering you were blasting so called right winged media sources for not asking Steele about the incident.

btw I dont know how many times I have to tell you this. I can care less if he wasnt hit, the idea they would do it in the first place is the disgusting part.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: azazyel

Originally posted by: Genx87
No surprise, seems like most of the pussies are nothing but big talking arm chair wimps. Remember when a couple of liberal baffoons couldnt even hit Ann Coulter from 3 feet away with a pie?

How unathletic can you possibly be?

OMFG, you have got to be joking. Um, you might want to look up the political views of Lance Armstrong.

Oh you showed me. Next time Lance goes on a pie or oreo cookie throwing spree then Ill change my mind.

Yeah right, I think there is a better chance of you changing your diaper than your mind

Ahh there is red dawn again with the personal insults. It take a lot of brain power to come up with those. Keep it up!

Awhaaaay. Don't be so touchy, see the wink emoticon? It means I was joking, I know you don't wear diapers! You don't do you?

Not yet, give me a couple of decades, then I am sure I can join the ranks of bbond.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: azazyel

Originally posted by: Genx87
Coordination != Athleticism and you can throw anything while being on a couch.

Sure it does.

So you would consider people who play pool, darts, pinball and who can fling cards athletes? Let me guess, you lettered in band in High school didn't you? And you probably bought a jacket for it.[/quote]

Sure they are.
I wouldnt worry about my lettering accomplishments. Certainly not in band, that I can tell you lmao.

 

[RightIsWrong]

Originally posted by: Genx87
Your first story quotes him as saying the Oreos were at my feet.
The last story claims there werent even cookies at the event and several people didnt see cookies.

So which is it?

You arent going to take Steeles word for it? Sounds kind of hypocritical of you considering you were blasting so called right winged media sources for not asking Steele about the incident.

btw I dont know how many times I have to tell you this. I can care less if he wasnt hit, the idea they would do it in the first place is the disgusting part.

The first story was provided as evidence that the GOP, Steele himself and others that support the right were full of sh*t and exaggerated this story for pure political gain. The second, follow up, goes to show that Steele may be even more full of sh*t than even I gave him credit for. It appears that sources that were at the event, mainly the NEWS and those that cleaned up aftwards never saw a single Oreo.

My condemnation of the media reporting this story for not interviewing Steele about this was simply to show that they are as credible of a source for news as a DU or Freeper post.

Now, once again, stop feigning outrage and show an actual account of a single Oreo being on the premises!

Unless you are saying that you are disgusted by the GOP and the right wing media sources blatantly lying about a racial "attack" to further promote a racial division in America? What's it going to be? Are you going to admit that you have been had or are you going to find a source that can claim an Oreo was there?

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong

Originally posted by: Genx87
Your first story quotes him as saying the Oreos were at my feet.
The last story claims there werent even cookies at the event and several people didnt see cookies.

So which is it?

You arent going to take Steeles word for it? Sounds kind of hypocritical of you considering you were blasting so called right winged media sources for not asking Steele about the incident.

btw I dont know how many times I have to tell you this. I can care less if he wasnt hit, the idea they would do it in the first place is the disgusting part.

The first story was provided as evidence that the GOP, Steele himself and others that support the right were full of sh*t and exaggerated this story for pure political gain. The second, follow up, goes to show that Steele may be even more full of sh*t than even I gave him credit for. It appears that sources that were at the event, mainly the NEWS and those that cleaned up aftwards never saw a single Oreo.

My condemnation of the media reporting this story for not interviewing Steele about this was simply to show that they are as credible of a source for news as a DU or Freeper post.

Now, once again, stop feigning outrage and show an actual account of a single Oreo being on the premises!

Unless you are saying that you are disgusted by the GOP and the right wing media sources blatantly lying about a racial "attack" to further promote a racial division in America? What's it going to be? Are you going to admit that you have been had or are you going to find a source that can claim an Oreo was there?

So you admit to being a hypocrite. Steeles version of the story doesnt matter. Why lambast people for not asking him his opinion?

It is funny you worrying about racial divide in this country when crap like this happens and all you can do is dig up stories that question if it was exaggerated or not. Who cares if it happened, if it was exaggerated, that is the real story :disgust:

 

[azazyel]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: azazyel

Originally posted by: Genx87
Coordination != Athleticism and you can throw anything while being on a couch.

Sure it does.

So you would consider people who play pool, darts, pinball and who can fling cards athletes? Let me guess, you lettered in band in High school didn't you? And you probably bought a jacket for it.

Sure they are.
I wouldnt worry about my lettering accomplishments. Certainly not in band, that I can tell you lmao.
[/quote]

I guess we'll just have to see how others feel..

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=38&threadid=1753837&enterthread=y

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: azazyel

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: azazyel

Originally posted by: Genx87
Coordination != Athleticism and you can throw anything while being on a couch.

Sure it does.

So you would consider people who play pool, darts, pinball and who can fling cards athletes? Let me guess, you lettered in band in High school didn't you? And you probably bought a jacket for it.

Sure they are.
I wouldnt worry about my lettering accomplishments. Certainly not in band, that I can tell you lmao.

I guess we'll just have to see how others feel..

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=38&threadid=1753837&enterthread=y[/quote]

I responded to that pathetic thread. Funny how somebody managed to give you the definition of an athlete and pwned you.

 

[RightIsWrong]

Originally posted by: Genx87

So you admit to being a hypocrite. Steeles version of the story doesnt matter. Why lambast people for not asking him his opinion?

It is funny you worrying about racial divide in this country when crap like this happens and all you can do is dig up stories that question if it was exaggerated or not. Who cares if it happened, if it was exaggerated, that is the real story :disgust:

I've read enough of your posts to know you are not at dense as you are being here. Is it intentional because you don't have a leg to stand on? I think so.

I am not being hypocritical. If you notice, I did what I am accusing the WaTimes, Newsmax, every other right-leaning news source, Zendari and you of not doing. I went and found more evidence that either corroberated (sp) the story or debunked it. Guess which it turned out to be in this case?

Once again, you feigning disgust is laughable. I am not saying that the exaggeration is more important than the racial slur that was implied. I am saying that there NEVER WAS A RACIAL SLUR IN THE FIRST PLACE. I am accusing Steele, the GOP, the right-wing media© and the followers of them of creating one. There isn't any exaggeration of the truth here. There is only an outright LIE that became even more exaggerated and is now being exposed for what it was.

Now, once again, do you have a single source that can verify that there was a single Oreo on the premises? I am going to ask you this in every post because this is the REAL story.

The fact that the GOP is trying to make up racial incidents is what you should be disgusted by. Not by people trying to expose them for what they are and trying to get you to actually open your eyes and look at the facts.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong

Originally posted by: Genx87

So you admit to being a hypocrite. Steeles version of the story doesnt matter. Why lambast people for not asking him his opinion?

It is funny you worrying about racial divide in this country when crap like this happens and all you can do is dig up stories that question if it was exaggerated or not. Who cares if it happened, if it was exaggerated, that is the real story :disgust:

I've read enough of your posts to know you are not at dense as you are being here. Is it intentional because you don't have a leg to stand on? I think so.

I am not being hypocritical. If you notice, I did what I am accusing the WaTimes, Newsmax, every other right-leaning news source, Zendari and you of not doing. I went and found more evidence that either corroberated (sp) the story or debunked it. Guess which it turned out to be in this case?

Once again, you feigning disgust is laughable. I am not saying that the exaggeration is more important than the racial slur that was implied. I am saying that there NEVER WAS A RACIAL SLUR IN THE FIRST PLACE. I am accusing Steele, the GOP, the right-wing media© and the followers of them of creating one. There isn't any exaggeration of the truth here. There is only an outright LIE that became even more exaggerated and is now being exposed for what it was.

Now, once again, do you have a single source that can verify that there was a single Oreo on the premises? I am going to ask you this in every post because this is the REAL story.

The fact that the GOP is trying to make up racial incidents is what you should be disgusted by. Not by people trying to expose them for what they are and trying to get you to actually open your eyes and look at the facts.

At this point I consider what you doing more back peddaling more than anything.
You are no point have proved anything except Steele admits Oreo's hitting him was an exaggeration. Everything else proves nothing except if you ask enough people you will find somebody who didnt see anything.

 

[RightIsWrong]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong

Originally posted by: Genx87

So you admit to being a hypocrite. Steeles version of the story doesnt matter. Why lambast people for not asking him his opinion?

It is funny you worrying about racial divide in this country when crap like this happens and all you can do is dig up stories that question if it was exaggerated or not. Who cares if it happened, if it was exaggerated, that is the real story :disgust:

I've read enough of your posts to know you are not at dense as you are being here. Is it intentional because you don't have a leg to stand on? I think so.

I am not being hypocritical. If you notice, I did what I am accusing the WaTimes, Newsmax, every other right-leaning news source, Zendari and you of not doing. I went and found more evidence that either corroberated (sp) the story or debunked it. Guess which it turned out to be in this case?

Once again, you feigning disgust is laughable. I am not saying that the exaggeration is more important than the racial slur that was implied. I am saying that there NEVER WAS A RACIAL SLUR IN THE FIRST PLACE. I am accusing Steele, the GOP, the right-wing media© and the followers of them of creating one. There isn't any exaggeration of the truth here. There is only an outright LIE that became even more exaggerated and is now being exposed for what it was.

Now, once again, do you have a single source that can verify that there was a single Oreo on the premises? I am going to ask you this in every post because this is the REAL story.

The fact that the GOP is trying to make up racial incidents is what you should be disgusted by. Not by people trying to expose them for what they are and trying to get you to actually open your eyes and look at the facts.

At this point I consider what you doing more back peddaling more than anything.
You are no point have proved anything except Steele admits Oreo's hitting him was an exaggeration. Everything else proves nothing except if you ask enough people you will find somebody who didnt see anything.

They have asked enough.....why can't they find a single person, other than Steele, that even SAW an Oreo?

Do you have a source showing a single confirmation of there being an Oreo there?