UPDATE! Nissan 4cyl turbo engine = the bomb!!! 526 rwhp on stock internals

gregshin

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Dyno Sheet Update!

The 500rwhp barrier is met. XS was able to achieve a solid run of 503rwhp, 525rwhp was the highest. At this time above 500rwhp the car is maxing out the Z32 MAF. Down the road would have to switch the PFC to the D-Jetro version. It's amazing how much power the stock bottom holds for over 40+ dyno passes now each time at above 400rwhp range, but we have finally shattered the rumor that SR20DET can not exceed 400rwhp without some engine building. Just want to say that reaching this kind of HP is not easy, and certainly now for anyone to just turn the knob on their boost controller. Without precise tuning and fuel system, the SR motor can still blow up just like popcorn in a microwave.
MOTOR SETUP:


S13 SR20DET Redtop (Stock Motor & Stock Tranny)
Greddy Valve Springs
Greddy Metal Headgasket
Tomei 270 in/ex Camshafts 12.5 lift
Tomei RAS
Greddy Pulley Kit
Greddy Intake Manifold
Nismo Upgraded Motor Mounts

FUEL SETUP:


Z32 MAS Fuel Filter
Apexi R33 N1 Pump
HKS Top Feed Fuel Rail
SX FPR -6 Line
Blitz 1000cc Top Fed Injectors
Nismo Gas Cap Cover (Adds 50 hp)

IGNITION:


MSD Dis/4 Digital Ignition
APEX'i Iridium Heat Range 8
Stock SR Coil Packs
Stock SR Ignitor Chip
Hyperground Grounding Kit (Enhance Chasi Grounding)

TURBOCHARGER SYSTEM / EXHAUSTS:


XS Spec T04E/T3
JGS Experimental Log Style Manifold
Custom Downpipe and Midpipe Elimination
Apexi GT Spec Catback
Apexi Z32 MAS Filter Kit
Blitz REMIX FMIC Kit
HKS Racing BOV

SUSPENSION:


HKS Hiper Drag Suspension
Battle Version Upper Control Arm
Battle Version Rear Toe Links
Battle Version Rear Forward Links
Battle Version Tension Rods
Front & Rear Sway Bars Removed
KAAZ 1.5 Way LSD
Attain Aluminum Double Sub-Frame Spacer

ELECTRONICS:


Apexi Power FC & Commander
Blitz SBC iD Boost Controller
Blitz FATT Timer
Blitz DC Boost Meter
Blitz DC Fuel Pressure Meter
SPA Air to Air Temp Meter
Oddessy PC680 Battery

COOLING:


Koyo Aluminum Radiator
Blitz Cooling Performer
Blitz Radiator Cap
Black Magic Electric Fan
50/50 Coolant Water Mix

TRANSMISSION:


Stock Gears
ACT 6 Puck Clutch Kit
Nismo Steel Braided Clutch Line Kit
Nismo Upgraded Transmission Mount
Pilotmotorsports Short Shifter Kit
Nismo Leather Shift Knob

BRAKES:


Attain 5 Lug Front Hub from Japan
S14 Rear 5 Lug Hub
Rotora Slotted Front Rotors (stock replacement)
Rotora Slotted Rear Rotors (stock replacement)
Stock S13 Front & Rear Brake Calipers
Axiis Ultimate Brake Pads
Stillen Steel Braided Brake Lines (Front & Rear)

WHEELS/TIRES:


Custom race wheels (Front & Rear)
M/T 10" wide Street E.T's.

NEAR FUTURE PLANS:


Full Chromoly Roll Cage
New Paint Scheme
Line Lock
Built Motor
ACPT Carbon Fibre Driveshaft
 

isekii

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hey gregshin you got links to your car ?

I know you have a badass car... send links~ ^_^
 

isekii

Lifer
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Originally posted by: notfred
Only 350 ft/lbs of torque.

wth is your point ?
it's not a heavy car.

if it had 503tq and 350hp then you'd be saying ..

only 350hp
 

notfred

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Originally posted by: isekii
Originally posted by: notfred
Only 350 ft/lbs of torque.

wth is your point ?
it's not a heavy car.

My point was that it produces relatively little torque when compared to horsepower. I thought that was obvious, but apparently it confused you and you thought my point had something to do with the weight of the car.
 

DanFungus

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Originally posted by: isekii
Originally posted by: notfred
Only 350 ft/lbs of torque.

wth is your point ?
it's not a heavy car.

if it had 503tq and 350hp then you'd be saying ..

only 350hp

and I'd be saying...

bye bye tires :Q
 

isekii

Lifer
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Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: isekii
Originally posted by: notfred
Only 350 ft/lbs of torque.

wth is your point ?
it's not a heavy car.

My point was that it produces relatively little torque when compared to horsepower. I thought that was obvious, but apparently it confused you and you thought my point had something to do with the weight of the car.

that's not my point. you have a way of saying things about imports that belittle them.
You make it seem like it's a pos. It's a 4 banger pushinig 503hp with 350torque.

Not too shabby eh ?
 

notfred

Lifer
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Originally posted by: isekii
Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: isekii
Originally posted by: notfred
Only 350 ft/lbs of torque.

wth is your point ?
it's not a heavy car.

My point was that it produces relatively little torque when compared to horsepower. I thought that was obvious, but apparently it confused you and you thought my point had something to do with the weight of the car.

that's not my point. you have a way of saying things about imports that belittle them.
You make it seem like it's a pos. It's a 4 banger pushinig 503hp with 350torque.

Not too shabby eh ?

It probably pretty quick. I don't know if it's all that quick compared to other cars running 104 octane race gas, though.
 

Encryptic

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Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: isekii
Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: isekii
Originally posted by: notfred
Only 350 ft/lbs of torque.

wth is your point ?
it's not a heavy car.

My point was that it produces relatively little torque when compared to horsepower. I thought that was obvious, but apparently it confused you and you thought my point had something to do with the weight of the car.

that's not my point. you have a way of saying things about imports that belittle them.
You make it seem like it's a pos. It's a 4 banger pushinig 503hp with 350torque.

Not too shabby eh ?

It probably pretty quick. I don't know if it's all that quick compared to other cars running 104 octane race gas, though.

Does a higher octane gas really make that a big of a difference, or are you just joking around?
 

Tom

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On stock internals ? If that is literally true and this level of HP is sustainable and reliable it certainly is very impressive !

What is the stock HP for that engine ?
 

isekii

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Originally posted by: Dead Parrot Sketch
On stock internals ? If that is lierally true and this level of HP is sustainable and reliable it certainly is very impressive !

What is the stock HP for that engine ?

Prolly got upgraded fuel system tho. Larger injectors, pump, etc...
 

notfred

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Originally posted by: Encryptic

Does a higher octane gas really make that a big of a difference, or are you just joking around?

That car would die if they tried to make 500hp on 93 octane gas. It would ping like hell and end up breaking a rod or blowing a hole in a piston.

Did you think that they put 104 octane gas in it just for fun?
 

gregshin

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Originally posted by: Dead Parrot Sketch
On stock internals ? If that is literally true and this level of HP is sustainable and reliable it certainly is very impressive !

What is the stock HP for that engine ?

yes the engine is stock internals and the stock power for that engine was 190hp at the crank and 170lb of torque @ crank. The stock boost is set @ 7psi...for a car weighing in at 2700lbs with driver and RWD.

S13 silvia engine 190hp 170lb torque@7lb psi
S14 silvia engine 220hp 195lb torque@7lb psi
S15 silvia engine 250hp 215lb torque @7lb psi
 

Tom

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Originally posted by: isekii
Originally posted by: Dead Parrot Sketch
On stock internals ? If that is lierally true and this level of HP is sustainable and reliable it certainly is very impressive !

What is the stock HP for that engine ?

Prolly got upgraded fuel system tho. Larger injectors, pump, etc...

I'm sure it does. But I'm more impressed if the stock rods, pistons, crank, and bearings are up to 500 HP ?

Not to mention the drivetrain, but that's another issue. I doubt those will be stock.



 

Tom

Lifer
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"yes the engine is stock internals.."

Do you think it will hold up at 2.5x stock power ? I don't know anything about Nissan motors, I'm not saying it won't, just curious.


Also the max rpm's around 8500 ? I assume that's not a lot more than stock ? How much work to the valve train ?
 

isekii

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Dead Parrot Sketch
Originally posted by: isekii
Originally posted by: Dead Parrot Sketch
On stock internals ? If that is lierally true and this level of HP is sustainable and reliable it certainly is very impressive !

What is the stock HP for that engine ?

Prolly got upgraded fuel system tho. Larger injectors, pump, etc...

I'm sure it does. But I'm more impressed if the stock rods, pistons, crank, and bearings are up to 500 HP ?

Not to mention the drivetrain, but that's another issue. I doubt those will be stock.


Well the Toyotas 2JZ-GE can handle upto about 600hp on stock internals.


 

Tom

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"Well the Toyotas 2JZ-GE can handle upto about 600hp on stock internals. "

Are we talking about the way a professional builder would put one together ? Or the way someone with less cash would put one together and hope it holds up ? Not saying that's a bad thing, if the end result is reliable for most people who try it.

 

isekii

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Dead Parrot Sketch
"Well the Toyotas 2JZ-GE can handle upto about 600hp on stock internals. "

Are we talking about the way a professional builder would put one together ? Or the way someone with less cash would put one together and hope it holds up ? Not saying that's a bad thing, if the end result is reliable for most people who try it.

Well if you can install a Turbo setup on a 2JZ-GE and can tune it ... I'd say go for it.

Automatic Transmission can handle more power than the 5 speed IS300.
Which does comes with 2JZ-GE not to mention GS300's and SC300's came with it as well.

I'd guess you'd have to know some things about cars.. just to install it and such.
 

isekii

Lifer
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Originally posted by: BatmanNate
When that sh|t grenades, the bomb is gonna be right.

LoL i highly doubt anyone would be running it like that anyways. Prolly just for the DynoJet

Most people would turn down boost for then boost it back up again when it's necessary.
 

LS20

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Originally posted by: notfred

My point was that it produces relatively little torque when compared to horsepower.

has no relevance whatsoever... that car will GO.
 

Encryptic

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Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: Encryptic

Does a higher octane gas really make that a big of a difference, or are you just joking around?

That car would die if they tried to make 500hp on 93 octane gas. It would ping like hell and end up breaking a rod or blowing a hole in a piston.

Did you think that they put 104 octane gas in it just for fun?

OK, that makes more sense. I knew high octane gas detonated or burned faster, thus providing a little more oomph, but I didn't realize it would be THAT bad to run a lower octane.