Update Bush web front page 4 photos of Kerry 0 photo of Bush.

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chrisms

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That's good stuff. Especially because the photos are big and stand out, and Bush's is all faded and part of a request for volunteers.

Looks like a Kerry website at first glance, before you read the words.
 

Bowmaster

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Excellent pickup on this. I guess if the eyes are the windows of the soul, the webpage is the window on the campaign...
 

lozina

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Haha, it does appear the Republicans have a certain infatuation for Kerry :D
 

Infohawk

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Some of the posters on this board, like SADKindaGuy, must be upset that there is so much Kerry-bashing on Bush's website. I know they don't like bashing because they always point out Bush-bashing here as bad. I can only hope they don't actually have a double-standard.
 

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Also notice how many times the word "Iraq" is used on Bush's website. Despite being "the central front of the war on terror," Iraq isn't mentioned at all.
 

sandorski

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This is quite evident by from the Campaign ads. Bush ad:"Kerry this, Kerry that, Kerry bad, mmmmkay? I Dubya, I approve message"; Kerry ad "I this, I that, I good, I Kerry I approve message"

I recall 1 Bush ad where Kerry isn't mentioned, but all it says is that, "I know where I want to lead this country" and that's about it.

The Election seems to be all about Kerry, not Bush's past 4 years, not about Bush's record. It is all mysteriously absent.

I feel for you guys, you have to put up with 4-5 more months of this. Us Canadians will have it all finished and done in 1 month. Approx 5-6 weeks of total Campaigning to put up with(there has been a couple months of light campaigning prior to the Election call, but it was mostly positive "we are good" kinda stuff).

Here's a :beer: to hold you over. :)
 

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Originally posted by: sandorski
This is quite evident by from the Campaign ads. Bush ad:"Kerry this, Kerry that, Kerry bad, mmmmkay? I Dubya, I approve message"; Kerry ad "I this, I that, I good, I Kerry I approve message"

I recall 1 Bush ad where Kerry isn't mentioned, but all it says is that, "I know where I want to lead this country" and that's about it.

The Election seems to be all about Kerry, not Bush's past 4 years, not about Bush's record. It is all mysteriously absent.

I feel for you guys, you have to put up with 4-5 more months of this. Us Canadians will have it all finished and done in 1 month. Approx 5-6 weeks of total Campaigning to put up with(there has been a couple months of light campaigning prior to the Election call, but it was mostly positive "we are good" kinda stuff).

Here's a :beer: to hold you over. :)


As a Canadian living in the US I cannot believe how long and how much $$ is spent on the whole election machine. I used to think it seemed long in Canada but not anymore.
 

arsbanned

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Tell ya what, can I take your place in Canada? Why in hell would you want to live in the states? Curious.
 

Antisocial Virge

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Originally posted by: arsbanned
Tell ya what, can I take your place in Canada? Why in hell would you want to live in the states? Curious.

Married an American and we flipped a coin to see where we should live, there is still a debate if I won or lost in the end. I'm still a Canadian citizen so I saved my spot. :)
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: Infohawk
Some of the posters on this board, like SADKindaGuy, must be upset that there is so much Kerry-bashing on Bush's website. I know they don't like bashing because they always point out Bush-bashing here as bad. I can only hope they don't actually have a double-standard.

Yeah, Infopigeon - Go ahead and squawk all you wish but pointing out kerry's voting record and what not is not "bashing" him. It's called informing people because he seems to wish to run away from his voting record - not run on it. It's quite clear that kerry isn't running on his voting record - all he seems to do is say he is a Vietnam vet.

CkG
 

Infohawk

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Some of the posters on this board, like SADKindaGuy, must be upset that there is so much Kerry-bashing on Bush's website. I know they don't like bashing because they always point out Bush-bashing here as bad. I can only hope they don't actually have a double-standard.

Yeah, Infopigeon - Go ahead and squawk all you wish but pointing out kerry's voting record and what not is not "bashing" him. It's called informing people because he seems to wish to run away from his voting record - not run on it. It's quite clear that kerry isn't running on his voting record - all he seems to do is say he is a Vietnam vet.

CkG

I'm saddened because you resorted to name-calling and because you are admitting to a double-standard. When people discuss Bush's negatives, it's bashing. When it's Kerry's negatives, it's apparently education.

"and what not"
Please try to be more specific. I'm not sure what you're referring to there.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: Infohawk
SADKindaGuy

Infopigeon

CkG

I'm saddened because you resorted to name-calling and because you are admitting to a double-standard. When people discuss Bush's negatives, it's bashing. When it's Kerry's negatives, it's apparently education.

"and what not"
Please try to be more specific. I'm not sure what you're referring to there.

Buahahahaha - And you have the nerve to whine...:p

I see, so presenting kerry's voting record is "negative"? Well, I suppose it is in a way - I sure would consider it a negative if I were a democrat.
You also don't seem to comprehend the Bush-bashing argument. Wallow away though...you seem to enjoy your current state.

CkG
 

Infohawk

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Buahahahaha - And you have the nerve to whine...:p

I see, so presenting kerry's voting record is "negative"? Well, I suppose it is in a way - I sure would consider it a negative if I were a democrat.
You also don't seem to comprehend the Bush-bashing argument. Wallow away though...you seem to enjoy your current state.

CkG

"I see, so presenting kerry's voting record is "negative"?"
I never said that. Read closer.

"if i were a democrat."
Are you not a supporter of democracy? How far-right are you?

"You also don't seem to comprehend the Bush-bashing argument."
Is there an argument capable of explanation? I'll just assume it's a double-standard otherwise.

"Buahahahaha - And you have the nerve to whine...:p Wallow away though...you seem to enjoy your current state."
Please try to be more mature in your posts and avoid these emotional outbursts. They do nothing for any arguments you may or may not have.
 

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Originally posted by: sandorski
This is quite evident by from the Campaign ads. Bush ad:"Kerry this, Kerry that, Kerry bad, mmmmkay? I Dubya, I approve message"; Kerry ad "I this, I that, I good, I Kerry I approve message"

i wish those quotes were exactly what the ads say.
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: PatboyX
Originally posted by: sandorski
This is quite evident by from the Campaign ads. Bush ad:"Kerry this, Kerry that, Kerry bad, mmmmkay? I Dubya, I approve message"; Kerry ad "I this, I that, I good, I Kerry I approve message"

i wish those quotes were exactly what the ads say.

Not meant as actual quotes, just gist.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: Infohawk
Buahahahaha - And you have the nerve to whine...:p

I see, so presenting kerry's voting record is "negative"? Well, I suppose it is in a way - I sure would consider it a negative if I were a democrat.
You also don't seem to comprehend the Bush-bashing argument. Wallow away though...you seem to enjoy your current state.

CkG

"I see, so presenting kerry's voting record is "negative"?"
I never said that. Read closer.

"if i were a democrat."
Are you not a supporter of democracy? How far-right are you?

"You also don't seem to comprehend the Bush-bashing argument."
Is there an argument capable of explanation? I'll just assume it's a double-standard otherwise.

"Buahahahaha - And you have the nerve to whine...:p Wallow away though...you seem to enjoy your current state."
Please try to be more mature in your posts and avoid these emotional outbursts. They do nothing for any arguments you may or may not have.

You are quite the piece of work there info. First you call names and then whine when it is done back to you. Then you whine again when that fact is pointed out to you.:p Now you seem to want to yap about "maturity". It's a nice try info, but it doesn't play.

Now what exactly did you mean by "When it's Kerry's negatives" then if the subject I was talking about was kerry's votes? If you don't mean his voting record(which is what I was talking about) then what "negatives" are you talking about in your reply to my post about the voting record.(sorry if that was too long for and drawn out for you to understand but you seem to have troubles with context)

Yep - you'll just assume like you always seem to do. The argument about Bush bashing goes back before you "blessed" us with your squawking. It still exists today though - just take a look at the Iraq education thread, take a look at any thread that isn't specifically about Bush or kerry - look at what most of them turn into. But yeah, if you want to talk hypocrites - we can take a look at your posts in this thread. Pfffttt - whining about name-calling when you where the one who did it and I replied with a similar one:) Seems you can't take a piece of your own medicine.

CkG
 

Infohawk

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You are quite the piece of work there info. First you call names and then whine when it is done back to you. Then you whine again when that fact is pointed out to you.:p Now you seem to want to yap about "maturity". It's a nice try info, but it doesn't play.

Now what exactly did you mean by "When it's Kerry's negatives" then if the subject I was talking about was kerry's votes? If you don't mean his voting record(which is what I was talking about) then what "negatives" are you talking about in your reply to my post about the voting record.(sorry if that was too long for and drawn out for you to understand but you seem to have troubles with context)

Yep - you'll just assume like you always seem to do. The argument about Bush bashing goes back before you "blessed" us with your squawking. It still exists today though - just take a look at the Iraq education thread, take a look at any thread that isn't specifically about Bush or kerry - look at what most of them turn into. But yeah, if you want to talk hypocrites - we can take a look at your posts in this thread. Pfffttt - whining about name-calling when you where the one who did it and I replied with a similar one:) Seems you can't take a piece of your own medicine.

CkG

When did I call you or other posters names? I haven't. Hence I haven't been hypocritical in that regard.

"Now what exactly did you mean by "When it's Kerry's negatives" then if the subject I was talking about was kerry's votes?"
Sorry I wasn't clear. I was talking about perceived negatives. I don't believe so-called "bashing" is a problem either way. They are presidential candidates. If either has perceived negative qualities, they need to be aired. If more negatives come up with one candidate, let's discuss them, not complain that they are being raised.

I think it is inconsistent to constantly complain about Bush perceived negatives and yet stay quiet or even dole out your own perceived negatives of the other candidate. It's simply a double-standard. (Not that it's relevant but when people attack or criticize Kerry I address the criticisms, I don't complain about the number of the attacks or the attacks themselves).
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: Infohawk
You are quite the piece of work there info. First you call names and then whine when it is done back to you. Then you whine again when that fact is pointed out to you.:p Now you seem to want to yap about "maturity". It's a nice try info, but it doesn't play.

Now what exactly did you mean by "When it's Kerry's negatives" then if the subject I was talking about was kerry's votes? If you don't mean his voting record(which is what I was talking about) then what "negatives" are you talking about in your reply to my post about the voting record.(sorry if that was too long for and drawn out for you to understand but you seem to have troubles with context)

Yep - you'll just assume like you always seem to do. The argument about Bush bashing goes back before you "blessed" us with your squawking. It still exists today though - just take a look at the Iraq education thread, take a look at any thread that isn't specifically about Bush or kerry - look at what most of them turn into. But yeah, if you want to talk hypocrites - we can take a look at your posts in this thread. Pfffttt - whining about name-calling when you where the one who did it and I replied with a similar one:) Seems you can't take a piece of your own medicine.

CkG

When did I call you or other posters names? I haven't. Hence I haven't been hypocritical in that regard.
Originally posted by: Infohawk
SADKindaGuy
Yep you're right, you aren't a hypocrite. :roll:
"Now what exactly did you mean by "When it's Kerry's negatives" then if the subject I was talking about was kerry's votes?"
Sorry I wasn't clear. I was talking about perceived negatives. I don't believe so-called "bashing" is a problem either way. They are presidential candidates. If either has perceived negative qualities, they need to be aired. If more negatives come up with one candidate, let's discuss them, not complain that they are being raised.
Ah, the "percieved" negatives. "Making the obvious clear is part of good writing.";)
Yeah, we've discussed "issues" - they get turned into Bush bashes. I have no problem discussing each candidate but when individual issues are brought up here- not necessarily in a political frame - they get turned into Bush bashing threads. You'd see them if you paid attention.
I think it is inconsistent to constantly complain about Bush perceived negatives and yet stay quiet or even dole out your own perceived negatives of the other candidate. It's simply a double-standard. (Not that it's relevant but when people attack or criticize Kerry I address the criticisms, I don't complain about the number of the attacks or the attacks themselves).

Again, pay attention and maybe you'll see what people mean when they say things always seem to turn into a Bush bash.

Now back to the issue. kerry isn't talking about himself, he's not running on his voting record and yet people are trying to make an issue of Bush showing people kerry's record? If you look at kerry's site you'll see(repeatedly) that he was a Vietnam veteran and that he says he's going to do things better than Bush yet provides no substance to that assertion. Being "not-Bush" isn't going to win him the election. He needs to show people his record(not kerrey's;)) and let them decide. He can say he is for or against that but how do people know without looking at his record? Shouldn't more than a decade in the Senate provide you with some solid things to run on? Guess not...

CkG
 

Infohawk

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Again, pay attention and maybe you'll see what people mean when they say things always seem to turn into a Bush bash.

Now back to the issue. kerry isn't talking about himself, he's not running on his voting record and yet people are trying to make an issue of Bush showing people kerry's record? If you look at kerry's site you'll see(repeatedly) that he was a Vietnam veteran and that he says he's going to do things better than Bush yet provides no substance to that assertion. Being "not-Bush" isn't going to win him the election. He needs to show people his record(not kerrey's;)) and let them decide. He can say he is for or against that but how do people know without looking at his record? Shouldn't more than a decade in the Senate provide you with some solid things to run on? Guess not...

CkG

"Again, pay attention and maybe you'll see what people mean when they say things always seem to turn into a Bush bash."
I have been paying attention. From what I gather, "Bush bashing" is when a thread is predominately criticism of Bush or his policies. If you think it is something else, please explain what it is. Please share. (If you don't, I can only assume you either don't know or you agree with my definition).

"back to the issue"
You are returning to an issue you created and that is not really the main issue of the thread. There's nothing wrong with your issue but the sub-topic of my post was the double-standard when it comes to so-called bashing. You engaged in my sub-topic by responding to my post. So let's stick with it until it's resolved. If you want to continue your other issue after we could do that but I have never really engaged that issue.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Again, pay attention and maybe you'll see what people mean when they say things always seem to turn into a Bush bash.

Now back to the issue. kerry isn't talking about himself, he's not running on his voting record and yet people are trying to make an issue of Bush showing people kerry's record? If you look at kerry's site you'll see(repeatedly) that he was a Vietnam veteran and that he says he's going to do things better than Bush yet provides no substance to that assertion. Being "not-Bush" isn't going to win him the election. He needs to show people his record(not kerrey's;)) and let them decide. He can say he is for or against that but how do people know without looking at his record? Shouldn't more than a decade in the Senate provide you with some solid things to run on? Guess not...

CkG

"Again, pay attention and maybe you'll see what people mean when they say things always seem to turn into a Bush bash."
I have been paying attention. From what I gather, "Bush bashing" is when a thread is predominately criticism of Bush or his policies. If you think it is something else, please explain what it is. Please share. (If you don't, I can only assume you either don't know or you agree with my definition).

"back to the issue"
You are returning to an issue you created and that is not really the main issue of the thread. There's nothing wrong with your issue but the sub-topic of my post was the double-standard when it comes to so-called bashing. You engaged in my sub-topic by responding to my post. So let's stick with it until it's resolved. If you want to continue your other issue after we could do that but I have never really engaged that issue.

Umm - no. I've addressed the "bashing" issue. Sorry you don't understand it yet. You might understand if you actually paid attention and looked through what is posted here. It isn't about kerry vs Bush on the issues that is bashing. Like I said, you might understand it if you are here a bit longer.Take a step back from your narrow focus on trying to prove yourself and just look around. You'll see. However I will grant you that it is a wee bit harder to see them now because alot of things are framed in a political light according to ideology now where it wasn't alway done that way.

Now yes, back to the topic. The horse is dead and has been. You can keep trying to kick it but it's still dead.

CkG

PS - I notice you didn't comment on the hypocrite part or the second statement I made. Hmmm....;) That's OK though. No need to explain - it's pretty obvious.