Originally posted by: DonVito
I know I'm beating a dead horse, but I really am just . . . stunned by this development. The shamelessness of this commutation is just unbelievable. President Bush is SO transparent and flagrant in his dereliction of duty that it's like he's trying to get himself impeached.
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
I'll be calling ALL of my congressmen/senators tomorrow. I mean NO PRISON TIME at all? That is fracking BS.
Originally posted by: XMan
It's interesting that Martha Stewart is being mentioned . . . I've read legal opinions that her conviction was bogus, same as with Libby's.
All things considered, I wish he'd taken the time to pardon Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean while he had his pen out. The fact that he's letting these guys rot in prison pretty much indicates that this move is just pandering to the base.
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
The fact that you guys talk about me so much must mean that I am doing something right.
Originally posted by: Blain
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Of course...Originally posted by: TallBill
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Blain
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:roll: Innocent men dont flee the country.
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Maybe I am wrong, but I don?t see this as a long term thing Democrats will be able to use against Bush etc.
They have their own problems ala William Jefferson.
Two weeks from now we will be back to talking about Iraq and funding etc etc and no one will even remember this.
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
I think this will Bush when it comes to the ?base?
The people who listen to talk radio etc who felt that 30 months was to long for the crime he was convicted of.
I highly doubt this has any long term affect on Bush, the people who are going to not like this already hate him anyway.
Originally posted by: Lemon law
Well at least Scooter Fibby is on probation for another two years. And as far as I know, as a convicted Felon, can't work for the Federal Government ever again. There is always talk radio---the preferred route for such rats as Ollie North, G. Gordon Libby, and druggies like Rush Limbaugh.
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Craig finds it too painful to give me a QFT. :laugh:
It's OK buddy! I still love ya!
Originally posted by: Jhhnn
Heh. Most people don't seem to really get it, at all. Libby's sentence was commuted for one reason only- he couldn't be allowed to roll over, tell the truth in return for leniency from the court. G Gordon Liddy he's not, and nobody expected that he would be. Honest disclosure on his part would have been much more damaging than this, likely implicating Cheney, Rove and even Bush himself in a conspiracy to smear Wilson.
Take a look at this statement in a new light-
?If there?s a leak out of my administration, I want to know who it is . . . If the person has violated law, that person will be taken care of.?
It's what Bush said Sept 30, 2003, and it doesn't mean what anybody thought it did, at all.
Final score in this round: Bush Clan- 1, ROTW- 0. The price of victory is clearly higher than anticipated, but it beats losing. Just the way it is.
Yep, Dick Cheney, and Scooter is being rewarded for protecting him. Scooter was convicted for lying and obstructing the investgation into the treasonous betrayal of a covert agent (and her cover company) in a self-proclaimed "time of war". Had someone on the left done this, you would be screeching for his hanging. Since it's your team, however, you twist and contort and outright lie to deflect the truth, flinging one lame excuse after another to protect your administration from accountability.Originally posted by: ProfJohn
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Moonbeam
One thing I am absolutely convinced of is that we could have quickly gotten to the bottom of this rotten crime and cleaned out the criminals responsible for this treasonous act fast if instead of being questioned by Fitzgerald he'd have been water boarded in Guantanamo like the terrorist he is.</end quote></div>
Ummm we knew the original leaker right from the start?
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: ProfJohn
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Moonbeam
One thing I am absolutely convinced of is that we could have quickly gotten to the bottom of this rotten crime and cleaned out the criminals responsible for this treasonous act fast if instead of being questioned by Fitzgerald he'd have been water boarded in Guantanamo like the terrorist he is.</end quote></div>
Ummm we knew the original leaker right from the start?</end quote></div>
Yep, Dick Cheney, and Scooter is being rewarded for protecting him. Scooter was convicted for lying and obstructing the investgation into the treasonous betrayal of a covert agent (and her cover company) in a self-proclaimed "time of war". Had someone on the left done this, you would be screeching for his hanging. Since it's your team, however, you twist and contort and outright lie to deflect the truth, flinging one lame excuse after another to protect your administration from accountability.
As I've pointed out directly to you before, and as you have dodged again and again, Armitage was only one of the TWO people who exposed Plame to Novak. What Fitzgerald was never able to prove is who exposed Plame to Armitage and Libby. Cheney is the obvious suspect, but thanks to Scooter's lying, we may never know for sure.
If you cared at all for America you would be outraged. Instead, you and the other BushCo shills have been out in force over the last 12 hours, catapulting the propaganda on every media outlet available, trying to divert attention from the real crime by lying about Armitage. You are as amoral as Bush himself.
Originally posted by: TheSlamma
I find it interesting the American people give that power to the president.
