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he got a commuted sentence instead of a pardon because this way Libby can still plead the 5th. If he'd have been pardoned, he wouldn't be able to.
Originally posted by: TallBill
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: DonVito
Wow - just wow. Just when I think President Bush can't get more arrogant and shameless, he manages to exceed my expectations. I honestly wouldn't have thought he'd do this, with this much time left in his presidency. Look for his approval ratings to sink to their lowest yet.
It'll be interesting to see how the R candidates respond to this - he really has become an incredible embarrassment to his party.</end quote></div>
Yet another reason to push away from the mainstream parties. One person gives all new Republican candidates a bad name. Thats not right.
Originally posted by: DonVito
Wow - just wow. Just when I think President Bush can't get more arrogant and shameless, he manages to exceed my expectations. I honestly wouldn't have thought he'd do this, with this much time left in his presidency. Look for his approval ratings to sink to their lowest yet.
It'll be interesting to see how the R candidates respond to this - he really has become an incredible embarrassment to his party.
Link :roll:From NBC's Joel Seidman
Likely presidential candidate Fred Thompson (R) released this statement: "I am very happy for Scooter Libby. I know that this is a great relief to him, his wife and children. While for a long time I have urged a pardon for Scooter, I respect the President's decision. This will allow a good American, who has done a lot for his country, to resume his life."
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: DonVito
Wow - just wow. Just when I think President Bush can't get more arrogant and shameless, he manages to exceed my expectations. I honestly wouldn't have thought he'd do this, with this much time left in his presidency. Look for his approval ratings to sink to their lowest yet.
It'll be interesting to see how the R candidates respond to this - he really has become an incredible embarrassment to his party.</end quote></div>
Well.. Here is how Fred Thompson reacted:
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>From NBC's Joel Seidman
Likely presidential candidate Fred Thompson (R) released this statement: "I am very happy for Scooter Libby. I know that this is a great relief to him, his wife and children. While for a long time I have urged a pardon for Scooter, I respect the President's decision. This will allow a good American, who has done a lot for his country, to resume his life."
</end quote></div>
Link :roll:
Note to Fred: Think before you speak.
Originally posted by: Lemon law
Well at least Scooter Fibby is on probation for another two years. And as far as I know, as a convicted Felon, can't work for the Federal Government ever again. There is always talk radio---the preferred route for such rats as Ollie North, G. Gordon Libby, and druggies like Rush Limbaugh.
But getting back to the probation thing, its somewhat luck of the draw on what probation agent Libby will get. Its just possible that Libby will luck into a Judge Sharica type for a probation agent. And if Libby tries to blow off the terms of his probation, he could well find himself inside a jail cell while he begs GWB&co. to save him yet again.
Call it sour grapes if you will---but I do want to give poetic justice a chance to work. Time may heal all wounds---but sometimes time wounds all heels.
Originally posted by: DonVito
That's certainly not the way I would have spun it if I were a R running for president.
The Ds have been handed an amazing gift - the only question is how, specifically, they will manage to screw up this opportunity.
The fact that you guys talk about me so much must mean that I am doing something right.Originally posted by: Aimster
"This was the best move for our country as we can now focus our attention on the war on terror. I stand by the decision of the President. I have been good friends with him for 25 years and I can tell you he does not easily hand out pardons."
-ProfJohn
Ummm we knew the original leaker right from the start?Originally posted by: Moonbeam
One thing I am absolutely convinced of is that we could have quickly gotten to the bottom of this rotten crime and cleaned out the criminals responsible for this treasonous act fast if instead of being questioned by Fitzgerald he'd have been water boarded in Guantanamo like the terrorist he is.
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
I think this will Bush when it comes to the ?base?
The people who listen to talk radio etc who felt that 30 months was to long for the crime he was convicted of.
I highly doubt this has any long term affect on Bush, the people who are going to not like this already hate him anyway.
Originally posted by: ajf3
Hell... his approval is only at 30% - what's he got to lose... the libs will whine about it for a few days, but it's not really going to impact him at all.
umm Martha went to jail for insider trading as well, the rest came out of that charge.Originally posted by: Phokus
I just realized something, Martha Stewart had a much harsher punishment than Scooter Libby for lying to investigators and obstruction of justice for basically a petty crime... Libby lied to investigators, obstructed justice, AND perjured himself in front of a grand jury and this was related to treasonous actions by the administration.
How conservatives are not frothing at the mouth is beyond me.
Originally posted by: DonVito
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: TallBill
Yet another reason to push away from the mainstream parties. One person gives all new Republican candidates a bad name. Thats not right.</end quote></div>
Your point is well taken, but the President's party enjoys enormous benefits as well - they have to take the bitter with the sweet when he's a complete bonehead.
I know I'm beating a dead horse, but I really am just . . . stunned by this development. The shamelessness of this commutation is just unbelievable. President Bush is SO transparent and flagrant in his dereliction of duty that it's like he's trying to get himself impeached.
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Maybe I am wrong, but I don?t see this as a long term thing Democrats will be able to use against Bush etc.
They have their own problems ala William Jefferson.
Two weeks from now we will be back to talking about Iraq and funding etc etc and no one will even remember this.
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: ProfJohn
I would DEFINITELY NOT take the Fred Thompson approach and greet this with applause.
