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Update: Apartment found! Lease signed!

loup garou

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UPDATE: Excellent! Met with the owner of the apartment we looked at last week (see second to last post) and signed the lease on Sunday! We move in on June 28th! :) Finally, our search is over.
UPDATE2: Turned that frown :)|) upsidedown :)D).


So first, after 3 months of paperwork, being strung along, and a bunch of nonrefundable fees that I'd rather forget about, my gf and I got turned down by the co-op board of the apartment we were trying to buy 2 days before we were supposed to meet with them. Our lawyer called and said that they said sorry, but no. No reason stated. I can't believe this. They could've at least had the fscking courtesy to meet with us. We negotiated an offer with the seller that was acceptable to both parties, had all paperwork in order, met their financial formula (we were close, but we exceeded their cutoff), and were willing to take time off from our work days to meet with the fscking old bags. The only thing that I can think of is that they got word that we are pretty young (23) and didn't want to have anything to do with us.

Ok, so no big deal, we think (all the waiting has us pretty jaded). We can rent for awhile and get a bit bigger place. So we call a place we're very interested in. Rent is reasonable, nice young area (between alphabet city and flatiron district...you should know what buildings I'm talking about if you live in the city). I talk to the leasing agent this morning, and she says the financial requirements are a combined yearly salary of 40x the monthly rent for everyone living there. No problem. Once again, we're close, but reasonably over the financial requirements. So she then proceeds to tell me that as proof of financials, they need 2002 tax info. Crap. I've only been making my current salary (new job) for the past 4 months. My old salary would put us under the financial requirements. No problem, they just need a guarantor who make EIGHTY TIMES the monthly rent in annual income. Yikes, that's alot of money...unfortunately, we don't know anyone who makes that much that we'd be comfortable asking to cosign with us.

The really ironic part is that my gf has quite a bit of money in savings (when I say quite a bit, I mean we could've paid cash for the apartment we were going to buy), but that seems to mean nothing to these folks. Just your salary. :confused:

::SIGH:: Back to the search. We NEED to get out of this crappy studio in Astoria!!!
 

ElFenix

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for some reason this reminds me of the episode where george goes up agains the old man and george tells his life story to the coop board and they agree, george has had the harder life. so they accept him. then when he goes to move in someone else is already there because he bribed the super.
 

Wduaqnug

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The really ironic part is that my gf has quite a bit of money in savings (when I say quite a bit, I mean we could've paid cash for the apartment we were going to buy), but that seems to mean nothing to these folks. Just your salary.


Does your g/f has a sister?:beer:



try DUMBO in brooklyn expensive area
 

Mitzi

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Moved into my first home with my g/f last Friday....the last few weeks have got to be the most stressful ever what with problem after problem and phone call after phone call.

Hope you get yourself sorted...
 

loup garou

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Originally posted by: Wduaqnug
The really ironic part is that my gf has quite a bit of money in savings (when I say quite a bit, I mean we could've paid cash for the apartment we were going to buy), but that seems to mean nothing to these folks. Just your salary.


Does your g/f has a sister?:beer:



try DUMBO in brooklyn expensive area
I have several clients in dumbo, it's a nice area and I like it alot, but we really want to live in Manhattan. We can afford it, we both work here, all our friends live here, and it's just so much easier to walk out your front door and have everything you need steps away.

Oh and Wduaqnug, if my gf had a sister, you would be the LAST person I would hook her up with.
 

Argo

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Forget manhattan man - try Bay Ridge if you don't mind the 30-40 minute commute to the city. Otherwise - give Brooklyn Heights a shot, even though that's more expensive.
 

loup garou

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Originally posted by: Argo
Forget manhattan man - try Bay Ridge if you don't mind the 30-40 minute commute to the city. Otherwise - give Brooklyn Heights a shot, even though that's more expensive.
Do you wanna come over and tell my gf we should forget about Manhattan? :p
 

Argo

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Originally posted by: werk
Originally posted by: Argo
Forget manhattan man - try Bay Ridge if you don't mind the 30-40 minute commute to the city. Otherwise - give Brooklyn Heights a shot, even though that's more expensive.
Do you wanna come over and tell my gf we should forget about Manhattan? :p

Brooklyn Heights is as good as manhattan. It's only 10 minute train ride to the city. Plus you have family court right down the block :)
 

loup garou

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Originally posted by: Argo
Originally posted by: werk
Originally posted by: Argo
Forget manhattan man - try Bay Ridge if you don't mind the 30-40 minute commute to the city. Otherwise - give Brooklyn Heights a shot, even though that's more expensive.
Do you wanna come over and tell my gf we should forget about Manhattan? :p

Brooklyn Heights is as good as manhattan. It's only 10 minute train ride to the city. Plus you have family court right down the block :)
I know, I have a client who lives in BH as well. Gorgeous area, and the rents can be just as much as Manhattan. But a 10 minute train ride into the city is still a train ride into the city. :(
 

loup garou

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I'd say our limit is about $2000-2200 for a 1BR. We've found plenty in our range and lower on the UES, it's just that I'm getting sick of looking. I just want to move. Now.
 

UNCjigga

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Get married first...that should solve most of your problems, though it may create a few new ones ;)
 

Lifer

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Manhattan is a nice place and all, but a ripoff IMO.
The commute to work is probably one of the best reasons to live there, other than great social/night life.

But you'd be saving a ton of dough by finding a nicer apartment in Astoria and commuting 15 minutes extra across the QB.
Astoria isn't THAT bad, other than the huge influx of illegal Mexicans in the past decade :|
 

loup garou

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Things are looking up! Got a call last night that our application was accepted for one of the apartments we looked at this week! It was our top choice out of the 10 or 12 we looked at, too! All we have to do is sign the lease Sunday night! :) It's super nice, Upper East Side, 10 FOOT CEILINGS! :) and larger than any of the other places we looked at, better layout, and not to mention cheaper than most. :)

*keeps fingers crossed until lease is signed*
 

KGB1

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Why not move to downtown brooklyn. Near city hall and brooklyn bridge? That place has had major facelift since the early 90's when you wouldnt have wanted to live there even if it was free. Old factories and condos are being converted to apartments. Pretty big I must say and a huge view of the sky line of manhattan. Its also really close and reasonably quiet. My father was offered a building back in 95, for $180K he turned it down because it was kinda far away and the neighborhood was horrible. Now the same building was sold for $780K. Its so weird... some jewish owners started buying out those buildings.. now its like a utopia there. Repainted, redone apartment complexes. Its really got a life of its own down there. City living is a waste, unless you work in it I suppose. But I wouldn't mind living a bridge away. Good luck to you my man. :)
 

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Having lived in downtown Brooklyn all my life (currently in Cobble Hill), I have a few thoughts regarding this topic. The area on one side of City Hall is Brooklyn Heights, which is one of the priciest areas in the whole city. That being said, I would never recommend it to a person under 30 due to its cost, lack of nightlife and good restaurants. The other side (across Court St) is the Fulton Street area (~Clinton Hill). This area, while much improved, is definitely not desirable unless you are really trying to save some money.

Also, DUMBO (Down Under the Manhattan Bridge Overpass) is a peculiar neighborhood. Although amenities are gradually improving, it is extremely overpriced, probably due to the fact that all its major property was developed and sold by ONE person (name escapes me at the moment). The views of Manhattan are superb but the prices asked for some of the condos are outrageous considering the lack restaurants, shopping and nightlife. This should change shortly as the neighborhood hopefully improves.

Additionally, in case anyone is interested, the whole Brooklyn waterfront (spanning Atlantic ave. to the Brooklyn Bridge) is going to be revitalized in the next few years. I've seen the plans and they call for parks, shopping, athletic fields...etc. It should be exciting considering the wasteland which currently exists there.

All that being said, if you are new to the City, it makes a lot of sense to rent for a while in Manhattan and explore the whole city. At some point later on, you can decide if a longer commute is worth the extra space, backyard...etc. That's what I would do anyway.
 
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The reason they worry about how much you make, is the same reason you want to live there. They care about apperrances. They want middle aged wealthy people to live there as it will draw more middle aged wealthy people.
 

loup garou

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Updated for anyone who might care. ;)
I'd like to thank everyone for their suggestions and help, especially MaxDepth for going above and beyond the call of duty and hooking me up with one of his friends who knew of some available properties.