upconverting dvd -> HD deal

[Colt45]

My dad is talking about buying dvd player that can upconvert from normal dvd res ( uh 7xx?) to 1080i or whatever it is.

Anyways, I don't follow any of this because I don't watch much TV.


I tried to explain (that even though I know zero about this) you can't make data out of nothing.


so does colt == the own? or am i missing something here

 

[Lyfer]

Upconverting = not even worth it. All your doing is stretching an image. I recommend getting HBO/Showtime HD with a HDTV tivo.

 

[Trygve]

You can't make data out of nothing, but you can do what amounts to oversampling and cleaning of a dataset. CD players have been doing that during playback since a few years after their introduction.

You can deinterlace the video image (remove 3:2 pulldown in the case of 24p sources, do a bit of bob-and-weave on originally interlaced sources) and interpolate it up to a larger resolution. Depending on how sophisticated you want to be, you can pull some of the data from adjacent frames and use that to improve the picture as well.

The results won't look as good as true HD source material, but they can look surprisingly good, especially with progressive-source material.

 

[Colt45]

ok, thanks trygve.

that is more or less what i had figured, although hadn't thought of pulling from adjacent frames. It seems to me doing that would take a fair bit of processing power?

 

[MichaelD]

I guess we don't have a Software forum any more?

Oh yeah...we DO.

 

[Colt45]

Originally posted by: MichaelD
I guess we don't have a Software forum any more?

Oh yeah...we DO.

1. you're a fvcking idiot
2. you're still a fvcking idiot.
3. that is all

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: MichaelD
I guess we don't have a Software forum any more?

Oh yeah...we DO.

Too bad this has to do with the Hardware DVD set-top player his father wants to buy.

 

[MichaelD]

Originally posted by: Colt45

Originally posted by: MichaelD
I guess we don't have a Software forum any more?

Oh yeah...we DO.

1. you're a fvcking idiot
2. you're still a fvcking idiot.
3. that is all

1. Try this.
2. And this.
3. And finally, try this if the first two don't work.

 

[MichaelD]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: MichaelD
I guess we don't have a Software forum any more?

Oh yeah...we DO.

Too bad this has to do with the Hardware DVD set-top player his father wants to buy.

Too bad you're too ignorant to realize that though I may be incorrect about which forum, I'm still correct that his post is STILL in the wrong forum.

Go here.

 

[Colt45]

Originally posted by: MichaelD

Originally posted by: Colt45

Originally posted by: MichaelD
I guess we don't have a Software forum any more?

Oh yeah...we DO.

1. you're a fvcking idiot
2. you're still a fvcking idiot.
3. that is all

1. Try this.
2. And this.
3. And finally, try this if the first two don't work.

I don't feel 1, 2, have anything to do with the topic.

3.. well, fair enough.

 

[MichaelD]

Originally posted by: Colt45

Originally posted by: MichaelD

Originally posted by: Colt45

Originally posted by: MichaelD
I guess we don't have a Software forum any more?

Oh yeah...we DO.

1. you're a fvcking idiot
2. you're still a fvcking idiot.
3. that is all

1. Try this.
2. And this.
3. And finally, try this if the first two don't work.

I don't feel 1, 2, have anything to do with the topic.

3.. well, fair enough.

The picture IS cool, you must admit. I see many postings of this pic here in OT for years to come.

 

[Falloutboy]

Originally posted by: MichaelD

Originally posted by: Colt45

Originally posted by: MichaelD
I guess we don't have a Software forum any more?

Oh yeah...we DO.

1. you're a fvcking idiot
2. you're still a fvcking idiot.
3. that is all

1. Try this.
2. And this.
3. And finally, try this if the first two don't work.

I think its you that is wrong this is about a setup top dvd player nothing at all to do with software...so go to hell

 

[MichaelD]

Originally posted by: Falloutboy

Originally posted by: MichaelD

Originally posted by: Colt45

Originally posted by: MichaelD
I guess we don't have a Software forum any more?

Oh yeah...we DO.

1. you're a fvcking idiot
2. you're still a fvcking idiot.
3. that is all

1. Try this.
2. And this.
3. And finally, try this if the first two don't work.

I think its you that is wrong this is about a setup top dvd player nothing at all to do with software...so go to hell

I'm hurt. And offended. And *sniffle* don't know if I can hold it together.

My inner child wants to talk to you.

 

[spacejamz]

I bought a samsung DVD player that upconverted to HD through the DVI connection...couldn't really tell the difference on my sony 46" widescreen, so I brought it back and saved $180 bucks...