Unusual overclocking behavior in Asus rampage formula

soltys

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I've observed rather unusual behavior of my motherboard, while trying to find stable settings at 472x7 with PL:8 vs PL:9 . My configuration:
  • Old E6400 with TR Ultra 120
  • Asus rampage formula, bios 403 (with replaced el-cheapo double sided sticking tape for some real thermal compound - got -6C this way on NB)
  • Corsair 2x1gb 6400c4 (v2.x - promos)
  • Corsair 2x1gb 6400c4 (v6.x - psc)
Originally I thought I found stable settings with PL:8 at mentioned fsb and multiplier, although at pretty high NB voltage (1.67). I was experimenting when the computer has been on for a few hours. Started 2 prime95s, small i/o stress test, Rthdribl for a bit - it seemed stable, so I left them for 20 hours (sleep, work) - when I came back to it - no errors, all was fine.

But then I repeated the prime95 after I turned PC on in the morning next day (so it was powered off for a good while) - now primes were failing like crazy, within minutes. So I thought WTH. I backed off to PL:9, left pimes again, came back - all is fine. Out of curiosity, switched to PL:8, primes for few hours - all is fine again, no errors.

And this pattern always repeats (tried 6 times already) - when my PC is after a longer period of being turned off ("cold" as mentioned in subject), there's no way I can get it stable at "only" 1.67 and PL:8 (I tried plenty of combinations of different other settings, but they give no visible effect - for reference it was with vtt 1.36, pll 1.56, fsb strap 333 (400 of course tested as well, the same results), memory 1:1 @5-5-5-15, ct: stronger). But when the PC is "warmed up" - it's almost rock stable.

"Almost" - because I did tests with GoldMemory as well (I find it much superior to memtest, it finds errors far, far faster). In "cold" situation - it was literally stuffed (>200 page history when I got back home) with errors, nonetheless - practically all of them happened early (first hour). Yesterday I tried it with Gold running for 7 hours but in "warmed up" scenario - it had only 4 errors total. As you can see, it confirms prime results (failures within minutes vs. 20 hours with no errors at all).

Now I wonder - what can be actually responsible for this type of behavior ? Any more experienced overclockers that have seen something like that ? Some self adjustment done by the board after running for some time ? Low temperatures (!?) ?

BTW - at PL:9 and 1.51v the board passes tests regardless of when they were started.
 

fire400

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Report your temperatures and reference your "Gold."

You've tried flashing the BIOS and what revisions?

Exactly what the final GHz of the chip?
 

soltys

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Well, the temperatures of cpu are around 54-56 under full load, 41-43 idle. Northbridge under those conditions are at most 54 (59 before I applied decent thermal compound to stock motherboard heatsinks) and ~47 idle. I've tested only with bios v403 so far. The final cpu speed is ~3.3ghz (from original 2.16).

The precise settings when this thing happens are:

ratio: 7, strap: 333, fsb: 472, pcie: 100, timing: 5-5-5-15 (rest auto), static control: auto, aic twister: stronger, booster: 8, cpu: 1.45, calibration: enabled, PLL: 1.58, NBv: 1.67, ram: 2.16, vtt: 1.38, the rest - auto.

I got some suggestions at here at www.overclock.net as well.
 

fire400

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Originally posted by: fire400
Report your temperatures and reference your "Gold."

You've tried flashing the BIOS and what revisions?

Exactly what the final GHz of the chip?

-flash and BIOS revision testing

-underclock with close-to/similar settings

-don't trust "auto" with everything. manual labor sucks, but sometimes it's the sure way.

-try the exact same setup with 2GB or RAM. sometimes 4GB will hurt/affect latency stability or relax lat. timings a bit if any avail