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OneOfTheseDays

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My dad's advice basically echoed what many on here have said.

I have not worked at the company long enough to start demanding high priority assignments, regardless of my own skillset compared to others. I need to simply do whatever assignments come my way to the best of my abilities. If I'm as good as I think I am, others will realize it.
 

Kadarin

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You're being passive, blindly waiting to accept the assignment you get. Instead, take some initiative and discuss this with your manager. A good manager will work with his/her employees to promote their development both in technical skillset and in soft skills.
 

BoomerD

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Originally posted by: OneOfTheseDays
Originally posted by: Wheezer
Originally posted by: OneOfTheseDays
Haha, good advice guys. Like I said, the ATOT crew always sets my head on straight.

I will bring up my concerns to my manager during my yearly performance review in a few weeks. I'll proceed from there depending on how things go.

If I wanted to shoot myself in the foot this is exactly what I would do too.

So I should just shut my mouth and continue to take crappy assignments that don't further my development? Sounds like a great way to have a mediocre career.

Bottom line is to get anything from corporate management you have to show them you are willing to walk away.


SOMEONE'S gotta do the crappy assignments. It's usually the new guy, or the guy with the least experience who gets stuck with them. You gotta earn your cred dude...
If you're willing to walk away...just do it. that'll show them.
One of the best ways to advance is to take the shitty jobs and turn them into nice fat plum assignments...do them very well. show the company you can take the crap and turn it into gold. That MIGHT get you stuck as "that guy" who gets the shitty jobs because you can do them well...but more likely, you'll be "that guy" who has shown his worth...and his ability to shine even when handed a bucket of pigshit.

Originally posted by: OneOfTheseDays
My dad's advice basically echoed what many on here have said.

I have not worked at the company long enough to start demanding high priority assignments, regardless of my own skillset compared to others. I need to simply do whatever assignments come my way to the best of my abilities. If I'm as good as I think I am, others will realize it.

Your dad's right. Are you as good as you think you are? Maybe, but unless the management thinks you're as good as you think you are...you're just another drone. Prove your worth.
 

gorcorps

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I can't give any good advice based on the fact that the OP has used the term 'further my development' multiple times

Shit on your manager's desk and quit

good day
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Originally posted by: gorcorps
I can't give any good advice based on the fact that the OP has used the term 'further my development' multiple times

Shit on your manager's desk and quit

good day

Do I know you from someplace else? :p

OP, do the best you can and IF IF IF you get crap assignments is to approach your superior and say something to the effect of "I realize that all assignments have value, but I've demonstrated competence by doing (whatever it is you do) and would like the opportunity to participate in something more challenging so I can provide a greater service to the company"

Yeah it's bullshit, but I've learned one thing. When you want to sell an idea (or yourself) you can't come across as a demanding self centered dick. You put your concerns or desires in the context of benefiting your employer. Remember, it's them first by them allowing you a shot at it. That way everyone is in a win/win situation.
 

gorcorps

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Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Originally posted by: gorcorps
I can't give any good advice based on the fact that the OP has used the term 'further my development' multiple times

Shit on your manager's desk and quit

good day

Do I know you from someplace else? :p

You can't prove anything
 

gooseman

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Originally posted by: OneOfTheseDays
My dad's advice basically echoed what many on here have said.

I have not worked at the company long enough to start demanding high priority assignments, regardless of my own skillset compared to others. I need to simply do whatever assignments come my way to the best of my abilities. If I'm as good as I think I am, others will realize it.


Your Dad is a wise man.:D
 

thepd7

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Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: OneOfTheseDays
Haha, good advice guys. Like I said, the ATOT crew always sets my head on straight.

I will bring up my concerns to my manager during my yearly performance review in a few weeks. I'll proceed from there depending on how things go.

You might want to wait until you actually have something to be concerned about before bringing your concerns up. Don't bring anything up with management if it's only based on a "feeling" or a "hunch".

that being said it's always a great idea to be proactive about going for challenging projects.
 

Wheezer

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Originally posted by: OneOfTheseDays
Originally posted by: Wheezer
Originally posted by: OneOfTheseDays
Haha, good advice guys. Like I said, the ATOT crew always sets my head on straight.

I will bring up my concerns to my manager during my yearly performance review in a few weeks. I'll proceed from there depending on how things go.

If I wanted to shoot myself in the foot this is exactly what I would do too.

So I should just shut my mouth and continue to take crappy assignments that don't further my development? Sounds like a great way to have a mediocre career.

Bottom line is to get anything from corporate management you have to show them you are willing to walk away.

You have only been on the job 2.5 years...you are in no position to do, want or say shit.

You have barely made your bones yet.

If you are this whiny on a a forum I would bet you are the same way at work and this is probably why they don't hand jack shit off to you.

I managed people people like you for many years and let me tell you something, if you approached me with that attitude I would not only hold the goddamned door open for you I would carry your ass out to your car and hand you a ten spot for gas.


 

D1gger

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Originally posted by: gooseman
Originally posted by: OneOfTheseDays
My dad's advice basically echoed what many on here have said.

I have not worked at the company long enough to start demanding high priority assignments, regardless of my own skillset compared to others. I need to simply do whatever assignments come my way to the best of my abilities. If I'm as good as I think I am, others will realize it.


Your Dad is a wise man.:D

Bingo.

The OP needs to chill out and give it some time. As the "new guy" you may get some crappy assignments, but skill and hard work will be recognized in the long run (unless you actually have a terrible manager).
 

John P

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I remember a quote I saw many years ago - something about the best and brightest go to their bosses with solutions, not problems.

I.E. - if you do say anything to your boss don't whine about not having meaningful work - but if you do know what project you'd like to work on go up to him and tell him "you'd love to work on project X and here are some ideas I had for it" or something along those lines.
 

Miramonti

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Chill. Its always good to be patient and try to understand the adversary before you start fighting it, should that be necessary.
 

fleshconsumed

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Originally posted by: OneOfTheseDays
My dad's advice basically echoed what many on here have said.

I have not worked at the company long enough to start demanding high priority assignments, regardless of my own skillset compared to others. I need to simply do whatever assignments come my way to the best of my abilities. If I'm as good as I think I am, others will realize it.

I call bull on "regardless of my own skillset" bit. If one has the skills, he should get work according to his skills, screw seniority. Working for a company that doesn't fully utilizes one's skills is a waste of time and sets you backwards because you lose the skills you do not use.

The real question here is, do you really have the skills you claim you do, or are you overestimating yourself. Only one way to find out. Start interviewing.
 
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Originally posted by: xSauronx
yeah youre paranoid, and thinking too far ahead. also depending on what you do...youll have a hard time finding a job. thinking of quitting now without a good reason is absurd

x2

People with much more experience than you are out of work and will work as cheap as you just to get a job. It's the position I am in right now. I don't like my job, am not challenged, bored, etc. I'm still here though and not looking elsewhere. First off I have 3 years here, secondly I just found out I'm getting trained for a new position (its a lateral move :() which means I have job security since it's 6 months of training, they give tuition reimbursement, and pay quite well for my age. In this market I'm just glad to have a job thats this good.
 

AlienCraft

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Originally posted by: Kadarin
You're being passive, blindly waiting to accept the assignment you get. Instead, take some initiative and discuss this with your manager. A good manager will work with his/her employees to promote their development both in technical skillset and in soft skills.
Bullshit.
That only exists in textbooks.
Try that in today's environment and you'll be shown the door.

 

Mxylplyx

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Originally posted by: OneOfTheseDays
I am also confident I can find a new job basically anywhere, even in this kind of environment

A hallmark of many young people, overconfidence. I would suggest you dont make any hasty decisions operating under that assumption.