Unrepentant Rudolph Gets Life Sentence

montanafan

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Unrepentant Rudolph Gets Life Sentence
By JAY REEVES
Associated Press Writer

BIRMINGHAM, Ala. - An unrepentant Eric Rudolph declared Monday that abortion must be fought with "deadly force" as a judge sentenced him to life in prison for setting off a remote-controlled bomb at an abortion clinic that killed an off-duty police officer and maimed a nurse.
"Children are disposed of at will," the 38-year-old Rudolph said, jabbing the air in a speech that echoed a rambling manifesto he issued in April when he pleaded guilty to four bombings in all, including the blast at the 1996 Atlanta Olympics. "The state is no longer the protector of the innocents."

Rudolph's fiery statement came as his victims confronted him in court, branding the anti-abortion extremist a cowardly "monster" and recalling how their lives were devastated by the 1998 clinic bombing in Birmingham.

"It gives me great delight to know you are going to spend the rest of your life sitting in an 8-by-12 box," said the clinic's director, Diane Derzis.

Under a plea bargain that spared him a death sentence, Rudolph received two life sentences without parole for the Birmingham bombing. Next month, he will receive two more life terms for the deadly Olympic bombing and two other attacks in Atlanta.

Rudolph spent more than five years on the run in the North Carolina wilderness, employing the survivalist techniques he learned as a soldier. He was captured in 2003 while scavenging for food behind a grocery store.

When it was his turn to speak Monday, Rudolph angrily lashed out at abortion and the Birmingham clinic.

"What they did was participate in the murder of 50 children a week," he said, shackled at the ankles and wearing a red jail uniform. "Abortion is murder and because it is murder I believe deadly force is needed to stop it."

Emily Lyons, the nurse wounded by his bomb, said Rudolph was nothing but a coward.

"When it was your turn to face death you weren't so brave again," Lyons said in a forceful voice, occasionally looking across the aisle at Rudolph. "You want to see a monster, all you have to do is look in the mirror."

The bombing also killed police officer Robert "Sande" Sanderson outside the New Woman All Women clinic. Sanderson's widow, speaking with Rudolph to her back, told the court she will "never forget the look on my son's face when I told him Sande was gone."

"I want to tell you there is no punishment in my opinion great enough for Eric Rudolph. When Eric Rudolph leaves this earth and has to face final judgment, I'm going to leave the final judgment in God's hand," she said.

Seated at the defense table, Rudolph nodded in agreement.

Lyons was wounded by flying nails and other shrapnel. She has undergone 21 operations, lost her left eye and has scars on her arms and legs. She is no longer able to work.

But she said Rudolph failed to deter her or the work of the women's clinic.

"I faced five pounds of dynamite and hundreds of nails yet I survived," she said. "Do I look afraid? You damaged my body, but you did not create the fear you sought."

Rudolph faces sentencing Aug. 22 in Atlanta for the Olympic bombing, which killed one woman and injured more than 100 other people, and for 1997 bombings at an abortion clinic and a gay bar in Atlanta.

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Associated Press writer Bob Johnson contributed to this report.


I just don't get it. He feels he has the right to kill people for performing abortions, yet he plea bargains to make sure that he doesn't get the death penalty. He believes he has the right to kill those who have committed a murder in his judgement, but they do not have the right to kill him for doing the same. How in the world do people like this justify these things to themselves?
 
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You'll hurt your brain trying to figure out why people like this do what they do. This is one turd that needs to be flushed and forgotten about.
 
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Because juries are fickle and it only takes one nut to hang one. Instead of presenting him as domestic terrorist (which is exactly what he was) they kept harping on him as an "abortion clinic bomber". Anytime you include abortion into the mix people on both sides of the debate lose their minds.

The possibility exists that if you put him in front of a jury you could have someone who is prejudicial against him or sympathetic toward him screw up the proceedings resulting in a hung jury or a mis-trial. The plea bargain eliminates any possibility of that happening. He just goes away forever and spends the rest of his life being very careful how he holds his soap.
 

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Originally posted by: KidViciou$
why would htey plea bargain a case like this????

I was wondering that myself. Maybe someone else will know. Anyone?

My only guess would be that they wanted him to provide them with information about some of the bombings that they could not tie him to for certain in order to close them.

Edit: I think Whoozyerdaddy hit the nail on the head. Too much chance of someone trying to make a statement about abortion one way or the other with their vote.

 

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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Because juries are fickle and it only takes one nut to hang one. Instead of presenting him as domestic terrorist (which is exactly what he was) they kept harping on him as an "abortion clinic bomber". Anytime you include abortion into the mix people on both sides of the debate lose their minds.

The possibility exists that if you put him in front of a jury you could have someone who is prejudicial against him or sympathetic toward him screw up the proceedings resulting in a hung jury or a mis-trial. The plea bargain eliminates any possibility of that happening. He just goes away forever and spends the rest of his life being very careful how he holds his soap.

Sympathetic to someone who blew people up at the olympics? Pah-lese.
 

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Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Because juries are fickle and it only takes one nut to hang one. Instead of presenting him as domestic terrorist (which is exactly what he was) they kept harping on him as an "abortion clinic bomber". Anytime you include abortion into the mix people on both sides of the debate lose their minds.

The possibility exists that if you put him in front of a jury you could have someone who is prejudicial against him or sympathetic toward him screw up the proceedings resulting in a hung jury or a mis-trial. The plea bargain eliminates any possibility of that happening. He just goes away forever and spends the rest of his life being very careful how he holds his soap.

Sympathetic to someone who blew people up at the olympics? Pah-lese.

Actually if were not for the large groups of people who were sympathetic over his "cause" he would of been caught a whole lot sooner.

 

KidViciou$

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Originally posted by: Drift3r
Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Because juries are fickle and it only takes one nut to hang one. Instead of presenting him as domestic terrorist (which is exactly what he was) they kept harping on him as an "abortion clinic bomber". Anytime you include abortion into the mix people on both sides of the debate lose their minds.

The possibility exists that if you put him in front of a jury you could have someone who is prejudicial against him or sympathetic toward him screw up the proceedings resulting in a hung jury or a mis-trial. The plea bargain eliminates any possibility of that happening. He just goes away forever and spends the rest of his life being very careful how he holds his soap.

Sympathetic to someone who blew people up at the olympics? Pah-lese.

Actually if were not for the large groups of people who were sympathetic over his "cause" he would of been caught a whole lot sooner.

these are the same people who condemn muslims sympathetic t o bin laden :roll:
 
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Originally posted by: KidViciou$
Originally posted by: Drift3r
Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Because juries are fickle and it only takes one nut to hang one. Instead of presenting him as domestic terrorist (which is exactly what he was) they kept harping on him as an "abortion clinic bomber". Anytime you include abortion into the mix people on both sides of the debate lose their minds.

The possibility exists that if you put him in front of a jury you could have someone who is prejudicial against him or sympathetic toward him screw up the proceedings resulting in a hung jury or a mis-trial. The plea bargain eliminates any possibility of that happening. He just goes away forever and spends the rest of his life being very careful how he holds his soap.

Sympathetic to someone who blew people up at the olympics? Pah-lese.

Actually if were not for the large groups of people who were sympathetic over his "cause" he would of been caught a whole lot sooner.

these are the same people who condemn muslims sympathetic t o bin laden :roll:

They're all (both groups) complete and utter whackos.
 
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Originally posted by: KidViciou$
why would htey plea bargain a case like this????

He apparently agreed to tell the authorities where he had hidden/buried a couple of large caches of explosives, alleviating the concern that he might get a message out to a symapathizer, enabling them to use the explosives to make another bomb, or that a troop of Boy Scouts would end up blowing themselves up with them.
 

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Don Vito is correct - the Plea Bargain was to pinpoint where he had placed a weapons catche, including 250 Lbs of dynamite . . .
but there may have been more materiaals that he didn't reveal.

I look at this as beeing 'Soft on Terrorism', as he was a serial murderer responsible for killings by bombings
at the 1996 Opympics in Atlanta, a Womens Clinic, and a 'Gay Bar. Domestic Terrorist by definition.
The GOP feared repercussions from their Religious Conservative supporters who do support this repression of 'Other Peoples Rights' -
as it is targeted by their own fanatics as 'God's Work'.


 

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well i guess that could be seen as muslims being grouped together with the terrorists captinkirk
 

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Originally posted by: montanafan
Originally posted by: KidViciou$
why would htey plea bargain a case like this????

I was wondering that myself. Maybe someone else will know. Anyone?

My only guess would be that they wanted him to provide them with information about some of the bombings that they could not tie him to for certain in order to close them.

Edit: I think Whoozyerdaddy hit the nail on the head. Too much chance of someone trying to make a statement about abortion one way or the other with their vote.

Just knowing that one criminal is responsible for verious crimes is worth the appropriate plea bargain. So what if he lives in prison for the rest of his natural life? He's like Manson. He won't be able to do it again and we know there wasn't someone else. At least we hope so.

This guy is going to be in Hell on Earth for the rest of his life. however long or short that might turn out to be.

 
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Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
I look at this as beeing 'Soft on Terrorism', as he was a serial murderer responsible for killings by bombings
at the 1996 Opympics in Atlanta, a Womens Clinic, and a 'Gay Bar. Domestic Terrorist by definition.
The GOP feared repercussions from their Religious Conservative supporters who do support this repression of 'Other Peoples Rights' -
as it is targeted by their own fanatics as 'God's Work'.

I tend to agree this at least creates the spectre of being soft on terrorism, though I'm less certain the decision was politically motivated. Presumably the affected US Attorneys were wary of spending millions of dollars in pursuit of the death penalty and either getting an acquittal or, as happened twice with Terry Nichols, a life sentence. This would have been a slightly tricky, enormously expensive case to try.

Frankly I know I'd rather get death than spend the rest of my life in prison, but Rudolph's defiance in court has made this plea deal somewhat less palatable than it would otherwise have been. I'm honestly a lot more bothered by a sanctimonious, holier-than-thou serial killer than a garden-variety psycho. I only hope there's a Hell that he can burn in when the time comes.
 

CaptnKirk

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Originally posted by: KidViciou$
well i guess that could be seen as muslims being grouped together with the terrorists captinkirk

I don't think that 'Muslim' or 'Arab' is any kind of qualifier as to being a terrorist.

A person who engages in violent attacks on any sector of the civilian or business community for any reason -
be it personal gain, terrotorial advantage, or political agenda is a terrorist.
That applies no matter if it's a Conservative Religious Zelot of a Christian faith, a Zionist,
an Islamic Fundamentalist,
or a street gang in LA, Chicago, or New York.

If you really want to engage in a 'War on Terror' you have to take on all comers, regardless of affiliation - a 'Terrorist' is a 'Terrorist',
you don't get to pick and choose whether they are 'Friendly Terrorist' or 'Enemy Combatants'.

 

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i think life sentance is worse than immediate death don't you guys? Only reason to opt for it is if you're innocent and hoping for a reprive in the case as time goes on.. But he was'nt proved by the fact he plead guilty. Like they said, coward.
 
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Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Originally posted by: KidViciou$
well i guess that could be seen as muslims being grouped together with the terrorists captinkirk

I don't think that 'Muslim' or 'Arab' is any kind of qualifier as to being a terrorist.

Agreed 100%. Frankly I think it would be wrongheaded to deny that Timothy McVeigh, for example, was a terrorist, particularly considering that his actions killed three times as many people as the London bombers.

Eric Rudolph specifically says his Olympic bombings were intended to get the attention of the federal government, just as the Oklahoma City bombings were meant as an attack on government. This is the essence of terrorism.

Similarly, it seems to me his abortion-clinic bombings were fundamentally terrorist acts, in that they were meant to scare abortion doctors and patients out of practicing abortion (just as his gay-bar bombing was meant to, I suppose, scare the wickedness out of gays).

Regardless of what one thinks of abortion (my guess is there are people here who essentially agree with the notion that Rudolph was justifiably targeting "murderers"), it is legal in all 50 states, and Rudolph's actions with regard to the clinics were homicidal terrorist acts.
 

CaptnKirk

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Originally posted by: Zebo
i think life sentance is worse than immediate death don't you guys? Only reason to opt for it is if you're innocent and hoping for a reprive in the case as time goes on.. But he was'nt proved by the fact he plead guilty. Like they said, coward.

As long as there's life behind bars there's a glimmer of hope to get out.

Escapes do happen from time to time, as well as 'Accidental Release' due to some techinical glitch or botched transfer.
Even Parole Boards release the wrong man occasionally.

Few have the ability to re-antimate after execution and burial . . . or cremation.

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alchemize

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Anyone seen a 23x7 isolation cell? It might be worse (or better) punishment than the death penalty. Especially for a religious terrorist who thinks they are going somewhere better upon terminiation. Although I wouldn't have minded giving him the electric boogaloo instead of wasting tax dollars.
 

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Well the best part about them going for life in this case is that it is only for the bombing in Alabama. One could certainly argue that there was a small but significant possibility that the jurors in that case would have had sympathy for him and you'd have a hung jury. Now that they've guaranteed he will spend the rest of his life in jail the prosecutors in Georgia can go for the death penalty w/o risk of him getting off. Plus, there will be a lot less sympathy for him for setting off a bomb at the Olympics than there would be for bombing an abortion clinic.

There is still a possibility they won't get the death penalty in Georgia, ala Terry Nichols in Oklahoma, but the worst case at this point is he spends the rest of his life in an Alabama prison.