Unreasonable job qualifications

[Gibson486]

I love the:

10 years managing a team of at least 6 reports
5 Years experience working with Y


Then at the bottom of the listing:

Job Level: Mid Career (2+ years)

No, I love the:

ENTRY LEVEL ENGINEER

...
2 years experience with xyz
3 years years around yzx
Must be recent graduate
...

 

[Gibson486]

I'm just looking for internships, but a lot of them are like:

Requirements:
Basic understanding of electrical circuits
Basic Verilog or VHDL experience
Must be enrolled as Senior in PHD program

That is, basic requirements with some silly grade level requirement attached. Any reason that this happens?

Yeah, lots of companies do not want to spend money, so they just get interns. It's cheaper than full time and cheaper than contract, yet it accomplishes the same thing. So, i am not surprised by that at all.

 

[Red Squirrel]

No, I love the:

ENTRY LEVEL ENGINEER

...
2 years experience with xyz
3 years years around yzx
Must be recent graduate
...

LOL yeah, they literally make it impossible. How can you be a recent graduate AND have that experience? lmao.

Or IT positions that require 5 years of experience with exchange 2010 or something.

 

[DrPizza]

LOL yeah, they literally make it impossible. How can you be a recent graduate AND have that experience? lmao.

Or IT positions that require 5 years of experience with exchange 2010 or something.

If you're in engineering, you should be getting experience while as school. Find a prof whom you can work for on a project, get an internship - do something to get experience, even if unpaid. I always advise high school students to keep this in mind, but few listen. I've had former students capable of putting three years of research at a particle accelerator facility the year they graduated with a b.s. in engineering. My own son graduates this May - he'll already be able to claim one year of experience and will have no trouble finding a job in his field (applied at five companies so far, 4 interviews, four job offers.)

 

[Stuxnet]

I learned to take job requirements with a grain of salt. My current job had CCNA/CCNP as a requirement. I work at a NOC. We barely touch anything Cisco. We see a piece of equipment go down, we make a ticket. When I asked about it they said that no, I don't need the cert.

I'm guessing they purposely always set the bar higher than required to weed out the unqualified people.

Yep. At my last job I would fight with HR over the job listings because they kept including Oracle and related skills. My reports never touched Oracle. Ever. Occasionally my group called web services that were backed by Oracle, but that's it. We were two departments removed, didn't even have access to the damn data, and didn't know the names of those who did. If there was a data issue, I worked with the leads in the services group. What those leads did after walking away from the table wasn't my problem and didn't need to be my problem... so why do SPA's I'm interviewing need to know Oracle?

 

[ShawnD1]

This is not uncommon. My company does data analysis of job listings and will often tell the listing company things like, "do you realize that there are approximately 5 people in the state that meet your job requirements?"

My dad once ranted about having a problem like this. A job posting for someone to work either under or at the same level as him was beyond ridiculous. They wanted someone who is both a mechanical and electrical engineer as well as having senior level experience in both. What job was it? Senior level electrical stuff. The only "mechanical" you needed to know was not to do dumb shit like ask the mechanical guys to install electrical conduit inside the ventilation system.

 

[God Mode]

Its like craigslist or a garage sale. You give them a lowball (your qualifications) offer and see if they bite of which they're doing the same to prospective employees. They're only weeding out the timid and antisocial people that'll make the entire office awkward.

 

[ShawnD1]

Its like craigslist or a garage sale. You give them a lowball (your qualifications) offer and see if they bite of which they're doing the same to prospective employees. They're only weeding out the timid and antisocial people that'll make the entire office awkward.

Am I the only person who isn't bothered by timid people?

Person walks by me without saying anything. I don't care.
Person walks by coworker without saying anything. THIS IS THE BIGGEST INSULT EVER. The gloves are off. It's go time. Report this as "non-verbal harassment" to HR, complain to the boss, send death threats, etc.

I would hate to be that sensitive when standing outside downtown. All these people walking past me without saying anything. HOW RUDE OF THEM. God this city needs to be nuked. That's the only way to kill all these hundreds of thousands of people who don't treat me like I'm the centre of the universe.