actually, I had to do a naked XP install non Service Pack 1 the other day on my machine....I went to plug in the ethernet to get the service pack and updates and such...as soon as I went to windows update and nothing more, I got 15 or so popups and several search bars installed themselves....later on that day after getting all updates and service pack...I finally got into cleaning that crap out, turns out got the stupid malware virus, several hundred adaware items and spybot items....truely amazing...after realizing XP has been out for 3 years and has over 60 security updates....I am now back on Win2k SP4 which being out since 1999 5 years or so only has around 40 security updates. I actually installed Win2k with SP2 initially and got attacked by nothing...I love win2k =)