Unofficial Trump joint session speech thread

[hal2kilo]

All the media is saying that he became presidential last night, and that he took a huge step in the right direction, and that if he keeps doing this, we'll have him for 8 more years.

Is this true? Or has all the major media outlets been infiltrated by Breitbart / Bannon? I did not watch so I cannot personally confirm if he really stepped into the role or not.

Wow, he was on good behavior for a change. You think it's going to last? Nothing in his current behavior says he can keep himself in check for more than about 48 hours.

 

[momeNt]

Wow, he was on good behavior for a change. You think it's going to last? Nothing in his current behavior says he can keep himself in check for more than about 48 hours.

The headlines were all glowing. Maybe the articles themselves were more pessimistic about how he can keep it up, but the headlines is all I was actually talking about as that is about the extent of my news intake aside from this forum.

 

[fskimospy]

Even liberal guys can praise people they disagree with but you seem incapable of doing that. Van Jones is certainly not a fan of Trump but I gotta hand it to him that he managed to praise our President last night:

Donald Trump "became president of the United States" when he recognized the widow of slain Navy SEAL William "Ryan" Owens, CNN commentator Van Jones said Tuesday.

"He became president of the United States in that moment," Jones told Wolf Blitzer on CNN. "Period.

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/cnn-van-jones-trump-william-ryan-owens/2017/02/28/id/776185/

I respect him for putting aside his partisan feelings to make that comment. I must say I'm not seeing much of this from the liberals around here

As I've already said, I thought it was a fine speech. That being said, why on earth anyone would care what political pundits say about the theatrics of a speech is beyond me. I also find it funny that conservatives suddenly care what Van Jones has to say so long as he's saying something they like.

 

[Sea Ray]

As I've already said, I thought it was a fine speech. That being said, why on earth anyone would care what political pundits say about the theatrics of a speech is beyond me. I also find it funny that conservatives suddenly care what Van Jones has to say so long as he's saying something they like.

By your attitude why do we care what anyone thinks? Why are you and I conversing over this?

 

[agent00f]

Yeah...fuck having credible evidence. That said, I'm thinking that latter...yeah that's it...that's the ticket!

How exactly is it out of character with a guy who brags about perving on girls he knows to be underage?

 

[chucky2]

How does it feel when the guy who thinks the klan is too soft agrees with you?

LOL, well, since I'm rarely wrong, that would feel...good?

Btw, who needs the Klan when you've got Blacks doing a great job of diminishing themselves? Each time you FailPost it's just another entertainment for us lol

When I hear you say whites are doing a great job of diminishing themselves for what you consider poor actions by some selected whites, then you can claim your "observation" is not racist.

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[mect]

You can't be serious...it's clearly a negative as it relates to our economy. Yes, there are some legitimate reasons for the declining participation rate and employment-to-population ratio...but there are many underlying aspects as well that can be addressed to effectively mitigate this problem

http://equitablegrowth.org/research...pation-rate-causes-consequences-path-forward/

Yes, I can be serious. Read exactly what I wrote. A person being out of the labor force is not necessarily a bad thing. Decreasing participation resulting from retirement, decisions to have a single income household, or students obtaining advanced degrees are typically good things. Is there room for improvement in labor force participation? Of course. Are there things we can do to increase participation? Absolutely, and the main thing we can do is what should have been the focus. Increasing wages. Providing more family friendly working conditions. Basically all the causes the democrats have been pushing for years. If government wants to help increase participation in the labor force, they need to provide incentives to make it more attractive to workers. Things like paid maternity leave.

Lets get back to the main point; the reason Trump chose this metric was specifically to make the economy look bad which is dishonest. Trump inherited the healthiest economy we've had in a decade.

 

[agent00f]

LOL, well, since I'm rarely wrong, that would feel...good?

Btw, who needs the Klan when you've got Blacks doing a great job of diminishing themselves? Each time you FailPost it's just another entertainment for us lol

I guess we'll have to take your word that conservatives sure do love their klansmen.

 

[ThePresence]

I have a problem with your post. On the surface, just casually reading it I feel some kind of agreement. Obama was a huge disappointment to me. He ran, in my opinion, as a progressive and turned out to be a centrist lying traitor. That was a disaster, and a big one for me, but a centrist democrat isn't the worst disaster that can happen and that's where I have trouble with what you might mean. It could be that what you mean by a total disaster isn't one according to me and I have a bad habit of preferring to think along the lines of words used according to MY definition.

This raises for me a certain sense of suspicion like what if your sense of disaster is off. That could mean that what I call the best of Obama you call a total disaster and what you call a different kind of disaster might be paradise on earth or at least some hypothetical and as yet unrevealed portion of Trump's thinking that is actually right.

So anyway and furthermore, there is one additional point that is giving me trouble. How could there be a set of | different disaster | that would not be contained in the set of | total disaster | ?

In shout unless you tell me what the Trump disaster is in your opinion, and what you think was wrong with Obama, I can't really use your words as saying anything and that is something most people, I think, would not want to intend.

Being that I am a staunch conservative, we are most likely going to be polar opposites here.
There's almost nothing in Obama's ideology I agree with. It will be pointless for me to go point by point.

 

[chucky2]

I guess we'll have to take your word that conservatives sure do love their klansmen.

Or, stated a more accurate way, Dems sure love thinking that while making sure those US Citizen Minorities keep getting F'd. Fail, how hard will you take it when you realize Billy Bob is smarter than you? Gezus that's gotta hurt...

 

[Vic]

and trump's infrastructure is

via Imgflip Meme Generator


ask us how much we like that down here in texas

Basically the plan is that, because the Baby Boomers have already borrowed from their children to the point that banks won't lend them any more, they are now going to sell off the family jewelry. In this case, the public highway system that their parents built and paid for.

 

[agent00f]

Or, stated a more accurate way, Dems sure love thinking that while making sure those US Citizen Minorities keep getting F'd. Fail, how hard will you take it when you realize Billy Bob is smarter than you? Gezus that's gotta hurt...

No, pretty sure it was you who just claimed that conservatives love to be on your side. Let's see if they disagree.

 

[fskimospy]

By your attitude why do we care what anyone thinks? Why are you and I conversing over this?

If I were conversing with a political pundit I might care what they had to say, but to include their opinions in another conversation is a waste of brainpower. They have no special or meaningful insight, they are entertainers.

 

[chucky2]

No, pretty sure it was you who just claimed that conservatives love to be on your side. Let's see if they disagree.

Sorry, why would being on my side be a problem again? Did you want them to be on your Fail side or something? Who'd want to be a part of that?

 

[agent00f]

Sorry, why would being on my side be a problem again? Did you want them to be on your Fail side or something? Who'd want to be a part of that?

By all means feel free to speak you mind about them blacks or whatever. I think everyone here knows the deal so no need to play dumb.

 

[chucky2]

By all means feel free to speak you mind about them blacks or whatever. I think everyone here knows the deal so no need to play dumb.

Is this you trying to "spread awareness" and Failing again? LOL, poor Fail... lol

 

[agent00f]

Is this you trying to "spread awareness" and Failing again? LOL, poor Fail... lol

No, I've done pretty well to make it clear the sorts conservatives are obliged to side with.

 

[chucky2]

No, I've done pretty well to make it clear the sorts conservatives are obliged to side with.

LOL you have? But if I side with Dems on some issues, doesn't that make me a Dem too? Be honest here: Other than proving Billy Bob right (and apparently having a real mental break because of it), have you actually ever not been wrong/Fail?

 

[Sea Ray]

If I were conversing with a political pundit I might care what they had to say, but to include their opinions in another conversation is a waste of brainpower. They have no special or meaningful insight, they are entertainers.

I think there is some significance to it. If Karl Rove praises Hillary Clinton that's news

 

[Vic]

There's nothing misleading about it. What he said is factually accurate, and the lower the participation number is a bad thing for the country. We can't do much about the participation number going down because of demographics (aging population), but that doesn't mean a lower participation number is a good thing. It's a bad thing, just one we can't easily change.

While it might be factually accurate, it is still misleading. Particularly when you consider that several right wing pundits (ie Rush Limbaugh) during the Obama administration would cite this statistic and then imply that the majority of those out of the labor force were of working age and on public assistance.
But hey, unless we open up the country to more LEGAL immigration, this number will only continue to go up during Trump's administration. So good on him for bringing up something that can only be held against him later.

 

[agent00f]

LOL you have? But if I side with Dems on some issues, doesn't that make me a Dem too? Be honest here: Other than proving Billy Bob right (and apparently having a real mental break because of it), have you actually ever not been wrong/Fail?

Let's not pretend anyone would accuse you of liberalism.

 

[chucky2]

Let's not pretend anyone would accuse you of liberalism.

No need to pretend, no one would (thank god)...

 

[agent00f]

No need to pretend, no one would (thank god)...

Pretty sure you were just pretending to be something other than the same side of history as the klan.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Yes, I can be serious. Read exactly what I wrote. A person being out of the labor force is not necessarily a bad thing. Decreasing participation resulting from retirement, decisions to have a single income household, or students obtaining advanced degrees are typically good things. Is there room for improvement in labor force participation? Of course. Are there things we can do to increase participation? Absolutely, and the main thing we can do is what should have been the focus. Increasing wages. Providing more family friendly working conditions. Basically all the causes the democrats have been pushing for years. If government wants to help increase participation in the labor force, they need to provide incentives to make it more attractive to workers. Things like paid maternity leave.

Lets get back to the main point; the reason Trump chose this metric was specifically to make the economy look bad which is dishonest. Trump inherited the healthiest economy we've had in a decade.

You forgot to mention the the lower participation rate also includes a significant number of people who have dropped out of the labor force indefinitely. BTW, did you miss the part of Trump's speech last night advocating paid family leave and affordable child care?

 

[chucky2]

Pretty sure you were just pretending to be something other than the same side of history as the klan.

LOL the Klan again...OneTrackFail... lol