Unofficial Job Offer

QurazyQuisp

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I worked this summer as an intern for a BIG information company doing software engineering. I'm graduating this coming May, so I'm now on the looking for a job train. Well, I sent one of the lead engineers on the team I worked with an email asking for a job reference because I feel like he had the best understanding of my ability and work ethic on the team of about 30 software engineers. His response was pretty much: "We have an opening on the team, how about that instead?" While I certainly appreciated the experience and enjoyed the work (when I was busy) a big part of me would like to work for a small company (30ish people total).

How do I go about responding to this? I don't want to flat out say no, because, there is definitely potential for me wanting the job, depending on what else comes up in the next month or two...
 

krylon

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Ask him if he really wants just the tip or the whole shlong because you want to go balls deep, baby!

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Completely unrelated to the OP
Attempt at thread hijacking.
Lack of common sense

And you just came off of a 1wk vacation for similar style comment.

You have earned yourself a 2 weekpackage this time.

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mugs

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Just say that you would still like to use him as a reference in case you're not offered the job he referred to.
 

QurazyQuisp

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Originally posted by: mugs
Just say that you would still like to use him as a reference in case you're not offered the job he referred to.

He offered to be a reference as well... however, I feel as if I should respond to his first question.
 

JDub02

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find out how much it pays. you might not find a job with decent pay at a small company in this economy. the government is in the process of declaring jihad against small business.
 

QurazyQuisp

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Originally posted by: JDub02
find out how much it pays. you might not find a job with decent pay at a small company in this economy. the government is in the process of declaring jihad against small business.

I'm not so worried about pay, really. There are other reasons why I'd prefer to work for a smaller company.
 

theknight571

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Are you interested in working for that company?
-> Yes? Let him know you're interested and see what they have to offer
-> No? Politely decline the offer, stating that you enjoyed your time there...blah blah.. But I appreciate your letter of reference. (or something like that... :) )

You can always jump jobs later.... gotta remember what the market is like at the moment.
 

Juddog

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Take the job, in this economy you can't go wrong, plus would be a good chance to get some experience.
 

QurazyQuisp

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Originally posted by: Juddog
Take the job, in this economy you can't go wrong, plus would be a good chance to get some experience.

My only problem with this is that I've already had some interest from what I would consider more interesting companies.
 

Juddog

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Originally posted by: QurazyQuisp
Originally posted by: Juddog
Take the job, in this economy you can't go wrong, plus would be a good chance to get some experience.

My only problem with this is that I've already had some interest from what I would consider more interesting companies.

You know what they say - one in the hand is better than two in the bush. If you have an offer now, it's good to take it, especially if it's a large well established company in order so that you can build your experience up and make your resume look good.

Worst case scenario you don't like working there later on, you can apply somewhere else and use the experienced you gained to catapult you to where you want to go. It's a win / win situation.
 

RichUK

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Just say you regretfully decline his offer because you?re pursuing a job in the fast food industry.
 

dmw16

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Given the economy I think you'd be a FUCKING IDIOT to flat out turn down a job offer :)

I'd say you'd love to talk to him about the position and set up a time. Doesn't mean you can't look elsewhere too. But it can't hurt to look into it.
 

magomago

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"Sounds interesting. Can you let me know moar cause I don't know any details at this point. I'm trying to look for the best fit yo"

Same issue here for me. I want to work in a diff dept, but I like where I work and the people I'm with (its just that it isn't really part of my education/training at all. I want to work with materials lol), so I said I would entertain an offer, but I'm still looking at everything.
 

AreaCode707

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"Wow, you'd really be interested in hiring me full time? I'm flattered! Could we set up a time to talk about the opportunity, and maybe I could pick up a reference letter then? I've been focused applying to on smaller companies for x, y and z reasons, but I did really enjoy working for your company and a chance to work there again might be the only thing that would coax me to look at a larger corporation. It really was a great experience, especially working with your team."
 

MixMasterTang

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Originally posted by: AreaCode707
"Wow, you'd really be interested in hiring me full time? I'm flattered! Could we set up a time to talk about the opportunity, and maybe I could pick up a reference letter then? I've been focused applying to on smaller companies for x, y and z reasons, but I did really enjoy working for your company and a chance to work there again might be the only thing that would coax me to look at a larger corporation. It really was a great experience, especially working with your team."

Don't feed him that non-sense, otherwise he won't land his dream job at the Qwik-E-Mart on 7th Street!
 

tasmanian

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Take the job offer. Work there for a couple months and if you hate it then start looking for work at a smaller place. But rejecting a job offer is stupid.
 

dirtboy

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Tell him you are interested in apply, but would like a letter of reference to apply elsewhere in the event you don't get the job.
 

thepd7

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Originally posted by: AreaCode707
"Wow, you'd really be interested in hiring me full time? I'm flattered! Could we set up a time to talk about the opportunity, and maybe I could pick up a reference letter then? I've been focused applying to on smaller companies for x, y and z reasons, but I did really enjoy working for your company and a chance to work there again might be the only thing that would coax me to look at a larger corporation. It really was a great experience, especially working with your team."

absolutely perfect. Except don't sound so surprised they would give you an offer.

Maybe something like, that sounds like a great opportunity! Could we set up a time to discuss it further...then everything you said
 

QurazyQuisp

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No where in my op do I say I want to say NO flat out. However, given the interest I've seen from some of the other companies I've applied to, I'd like to see how those pan out, and I should in the next month or two. If I take the job I'll be moving half way across the country. So it's not just a, oh sure take it and if you don't like it go somewhere else. After spending a summer there I have a good idea as to how the job will be. I did everything an entry level software engineer did. And after seeing that I know there are things that i didn't particularly like. So, I don't want to say no as I don't have anything on the table, however, I don't want to say yes because there are places that I know will make me much happier regardless of pay.