Unlocking your gtx 465 to a gtx 470!!!!

[happy medium]

http://www.overclock.net/nvidia/750882-hype-real-gtx465-unlocked.html

http://www.overclock.net/nvidia/745228-gtx465-full-gtx470-flashing-guide.html

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=253063

http://translate.google.com/transla...sformi-geforce-gtx-465-in-gtx-470&sl=ro&tl=en

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=322919

Seems PNY cards have the full 10 memory chips to make it a full gtx 470.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133323&cm_re=gtx465-_-14-133-323-_-Product

Using an ASUS unlocking bios utility you can unlock the cores.
http://downloads.guru3d.com/ASUS-GTX-465-to-470-unlocker-download-2561.html

Just like the old days ...6800 anyone?

Happy reading!

I googled "gtx 465 unlocked"
http://www.google.com/search?q=gtx+...=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1&rlz=1I7ADRA_en

 

[OCGuy]

Wow...awesome if true.

 

[happy medium]

Wow...awesome if true.

I read alot of this stuff and yes it's true.

You don't need to have a full 10 memory chip either. It still will unlock the cores and give you more performance. The cores are not lasered off.

Some cards have the full amount of memory chips to make it a full gtx 470.

 

[WelshBloke]

I read alot of this stuff and yes it's true.

You don't need to have a full 10 memory chip either. It still will unlock the cores and give you more performance. The cores are not lasered off.

Some cards have the full amount of memory chips to make it a full gtx 470.

I think you should buy one and try.

 

[konakona]

wow, this would be a monster deal (well, sort of... at least quite competitive) if can be done consistently. I would be interested in hearing how many people attempted this and failed, just to know what the odds are.

 

[ViRGE]

I'm just digging through the linked threads and one thing that isn't made very clear is what the failure mode is like. If the card has faulty functional units, is it a brick? Unlocking things is great, suicidal unlocking is another story - especially if the odds of success are low (which would be implied by the poor yields on GF100).

 

[dug777]

dp...

 

[dug777]

I read alot of this stuff and yes it's true.

You don't need to have a full 10 memory chip either. It still will unlock the cores and give you more performance. The cores are not lasered off.

Some cards have the full amount of memory chips to make it a full gtx 470.

I wonder what your response will be if someone buys one on your advice and it doesn't unlock, or worse, it bricks it.

I'd suggest applying some careful caveats to your advice, you make it sound like it's a dead cert it will work but those threads you linked to are full of words of caution and all the people who say they have done it that I could see in quick flick through those threads had 10 chip cards.

Wouldn't like to mislead people now would you?

EDIT: In fact, people in this thread (one of the ones that you linked to and apparently are assuring us you have read!) say it doesn't work on 8 chip cards:

http://www.overclock.net/nvidia/745228-gtx465-full-gtx470-flashing-guide-30.html

 

[SlowSpyder]

I guess they got to move those GTX465's somehow... Very cool if you can do this, but as dug777 said people may want to be careful. It sounds like you have to get the correct card to do this mod. But, if you can find one, than getting a GTX470 on the cheap is a great deal.

 

[Keysplayr]

Never put any faith in the "certaintly" of a card, first of all unlocking, second of all unlocking and working properly. Your results WILL vary from a full success, to bricking your card and anywhere in between. I've had success with a few cards in the past (not GF100), and some failures.

 

[Kenmitch]

I saw that a couple of days ago and was kinda looking....Seems like you need to hunt down the POV models which seems to be some brand that is not sold in the USA. Don't remember the brand off hand but it does have the 10 chips.

I'd say it's a big YMMV if your in it for the free upgrade

 

[mav451]

Hmm...reading the XS thread isn't as encouraging as I thought it would be.

 

[EarthwormJim]

I thought this was old news. There's reviews that talk about unlocking a GTX265 from day one. Failure mode = bricked card according to the early reviews.

It looks like this Asus program can do it in software rather than a BIOS flash though.

 

[Sp12]

This is kinda old.

Anyhow, basically only the early PoV models are rebadged 470s. And even when unlocked, they didn't end up performing as fast as 470s.

Of the 12 cards we have tested, 4 "unlocked", 3 recognized the BIOS but didn't "unlock" and 5 are now paper weights.

 

[happy medium]

This is kinda old.

Anyhow, basically only the early PoV models are rebadged 470s. And even when unlocked, they didn't end up performing as fast as 470s.

No the pny models are supposed to have the 10 memory chips on them just like a gtx 470.

8 chips won't unlock to a full gtx 470, but there shaders might. Thats what I was getting.

 

[Sp12]

No the pny models are supposed to have the 10 memory chips on them just like a gtx 470.

8 chips won't unlock to a full gtx 470, but there shaders might. Thats what I was getting.

That's what I meant, sorry. Regardless, new cards are binned for a reason. And if you were to quote the entire thing, you'd see how it is more likely you will brick your card than you will unlock it.

 

[Bill Brasky]

280 bucks is a lot of money to roll the dice with. No thanks.

 

[happy medium]

That's what I meant, sorry. Regardless, new cards are binned for a reason. And if you were to quote the entire thing, you'd see how it is more likely you will brick your card than you will unlock it.

The cores are unlockable but the memory and memory bus is done with a bios flash. Totally seperate things.

So you can unlock the cores with out doing the memory, memory bus or clock frequencies.

If you have a extra vga card lying around you can unbrick it also.

I see many of you havent read the entire thread.

 

[Sp12]

The cores are unlockable but the memory and memory bus is done with a bios flash. Totally seperate things.

So you can unlock the cores with out doing the memory, memory bus or clock frequencies.

If you have a extra vga card lying around you can unbrick it also.

I see many of you havent read the entire thread.

Yes, but most of these cards have defective cores. It's not just a softmod to move product except for the early pny models.

 

[happy medium]

Yes, but most of these cards have defective cores. It's not just a softmod to move product except for the early pny models.

Quote from forums:

"You are wrong, only reference models unlock cores (Palit is the only non-reference 465 right now )
Asus software just unlock good cores , if they are defective cores they will not unlock( i have seen 1 card that unlocked to 416 cores instead of 448)
The 10 chips is not a "bonus", if it has 8 chips you got a 465 and unlock it you got little more powerful 465 but if you got a 10 chip version and BIOS flash it you got a GTX 470 for less money."

Thats what Ive read.^^^^


How do you know they have defective cores?
Mabe they are making room for the gt460?
All the people ive seen so far with the PNY from newegg got 10 chip cards. If not just try to unlock your 8 chip card using the ASUS unlocker.
The good cores will unlock. iI it doesn't work the ASUS utility can bring it back to default.

Asus gtx 465 are shipping with the unlocker program. So what you do is flash your gtx 465 with the ASUS bios and use there unlock program.

The second one from the left is a gtx 465 with just the ASUS core unlocker, not the full gtx 470 flash.

 

[Capt Caveman]

280 bucks is a lot of money to roll the dice with. No thanks.

Same here. Recently, Newegg had a 470 for $284 shipped.

 

[konakona]

For what it's worth, TD has it for $250 then some 12% or so thru BCB.
I would like to see more results to be sure it's repeatable reproducible with more than 50% chance.

Not that I am in the market for one, I am set with my 5850 cruising @ 930/1270

 

[thilanliyan]

This is extremely YMMV. Looking at the XS thread, it looked so hit and miss.

Here is the original thread here at AT:
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2079089&highlight=gtx470

 

[GaiaHunter]

How do you know they have defective cores?
Mabe they are making room for the gt460?

That logic is only correct if they simply are EOL'ing all GF100.

Additionally people buying GTX 465 are most likely the people that would be interested in buying a GTX 460.

I can see the purpose of a product like GTX 465 - loads of chips that can't make GTX 480 and GTX 470.

Sure, there are have been some situations where companies "cut" some perfect higher products to fill a market niche - like AMD Phenom based X2 and X3 and Athlon II X3 (and still products like PH II X3/X2 are much less common as processes mature).

But in this case NVIDIA, by all accounts, have GF 104 based GTX 460, that are smaller and so cheaper to produce, around the corner. Makes no sense to chop up a product that can sell for quite a bit more to fill any niches.

Especially because we know that GF 100 yields can't be that great - no full 512 sp for retail yet.

The only logic reasoning I can see is NVIDIA is indeed EOL'ing GF 100 but is waiting until the GF 100 inventory is dry (or partners are expecting GF 104 to be a much more desirable item than GF 100) and so partners are trying to dump all their GF 100 as fast as they can (does this mean GTX 470 sales suck?) but NVIDIA doesn't let them slash the prices of GTX 470 for whatever reason?

EDIT: I guess the "whatever reason" could be avoiding AMD to reduce 5800 series prices as a answer to a cheaper GTX 470.

 

[happy medium]

That logic is only correct if they simply are EOL'ing all GF100.

Additionally people buying GTX 465 are most likely the people that would be interested in buying a GTX 460.

I can see the purpose of a product like GTX 465 - loads of chips that can't make GTX 480 and GTX 470.

Sure, there are have been some situations where companies "cut" some perfect higher products to fill a market niche - like AMD Phenom based X2 and X3 and Athlon II X3 (and still products like PH II X3/X2 are much less common as processes mature).

But in this case NVIDIA, by all accounts, have GF 104 based GTX 460, that are smaller and so cheaper to produce, around the corner. Makes no sense to chop up a product that can sell for quite a bit more to fill any niches.

Especially because we know that GF 100 yields can't be that great - no full 512 sp for retail yet.

The only logic reasoning I can see is NVIDIA is indeed EOL'ing GF 100 but is waiting until the GF 100 inventory is dry (or partners are expecting GF 104 to be a much more desirable item than GF 100) and so partners are trying to dump all their GF 100 as fast as they can (does this mean GTX 470 sales suck?) but NVIDIA doesn't let them slash the prices of GTX 470 for whatever reason?

I just don't see them using the name gt 460 (which is supposed to be faster) and price it lower 249$? Unless this thing is like 5770 speed? But it don't look that way.

I think the gtx 465 is going byby.