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Riddleman

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As a punishment someone should get her pregnant than wait 8 months than run her over with a damn car. Actually, I think in texas this is allowed.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: PingSpike
Originally posted by: Insane3D
I still disagree Vic...accidents can happen and be unavoidable. Sure, there will always be a cause of some sort, but that doesn't mean it was preventable.
Of course they are. All accidents can be prevented if everyone just stays home and never drives their cars. Because when the wheels fall off your Dodge pickup, your brake lines are cut by a nefarious neighbor, a deer runs out in front of your car, a bridge support beam collapses, or a chunk of frozen feces dropped from an airplane lands on the hood of your car while driving down the freeway...its ultimately your fault for getting behind the wheel of the car and not using voodoo magic to protect yourself.
Yawn. Just keep telling yourself that when the number one "accident" is rear-enders when an inattentive driver failed to stop in time, and the most fatal "accidents" are offset head-ons when a careless driver crossed the center line. Of course, those are just random chance like those bizarre cases you cited, or like the illegal driver whose negligent inattention caused them to leave their lane and kill 3 people, right?
Not that those bizarre and rare cases you brought up are even accidents.

IMO the person believing in voodoo magic is you, for believing in random chance and bad luck, when such things do not exist. As you were just being a sarcastic smart ass though, and not actually contributing to the thread, I'll let it go.
 

PingSpike

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: PingSpike
Originally posted by: Insane3D
I still disagree Vic...accidents can happen and be unavoidable. Sure, there will always be a cause of some sort, but that doesn't mean it was preventable.
Of course they are. All accidents can be prevented if everyone just stays home and never drives their cars. Because when the wheels fall off your Dodge pickup, your brake lines are cut by a nefarious neighbor, a deer runs out in front of your car, a bridge support beam collapses, or a chunk of frozen feces dropped from an airplane lands on the hood of your car while driving down the freeway...its ultimately your fault for getting behind the wheel of the car and not using voodoo magic to protect yourself.
Yawn. Just keep telling yourself that when the number one "accident" is rear-enders when an inattentive driver failed to stop in time, and the most fatal "accidents" are offset head-ons when a careless driver crossed the center line. Of course, those are just random chance like those bizarre cases you cited, or like the illegal driver whose negligent inattention caused them to leave their lane and kill 3 people, right?
Not that those bizarre and rare cases you brought up are even accidents.

IMO the person believing in voodoo magic is you, for believing in random chance and bad luck, when such things do not exist. As you were just being a sarcastic smart ass though, and not actually contributing to the thread, I'll let it go.

I'm not disagreeing with you that most accidents are caused by negligence, they certainly are, people don't know how to drive and they don't respect the fact that they're essentially behind the wheel of a killing machine. I also feel the topic of discussion should burn, turning around to talk to some one while speeding on the freeway when you're driving is just as fvcking stupid as driving drunk IMO. "People make mistakes" yeah, and they should pay for them.

But I'm not going around making absolute statements that all car accidents are entirely preventable. Even if we were all nascar drivers there would still be collisions sometimes.

You spoke of planes falling out of the sky. Have you ever heard of birds flying into the engine of a plane causing it to crash? Was that preventable?

And the example of the wheels falling off trucks has already been presented. Surely you aren't suggesting real and dangerous manufactorers defects have never existed in the any of the plethora of cars that have existed? I suppose that was due to poor judgement in their buying decision though, so ultimately is that their fault? Or should they have done extra maintence...just in case?

But hey, I don't have it all figured out yet. I'm sorry I'm boring those who are so enlightened. I'll go back to my voodoo magic, who knows...maybe it'll work? I haven't been in a car accident yet.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: PingSpike
I'm not disagreeing with you that most accidents are caused by negligence, they certainly are, people don't know how to drive and they don't respect the fact that they're essentially behind the wheel of a killing machine. I also feel the topic of discussion should burn, turning around to talk to some one while speeding on the freeway when you're driving is just as fvcking stupid as driving drunk IMO. "People make mistakes" yeah, and they should pay for them.

But I'm not going around making absolute statements that all car accidents are entirely preventable. Even if we were all nascar drivers there would still be collisions sometimes.

You spoke of planes falling out of the sky. Have you ever heard of birds flying into the engine of a plane causing it to crash? Was that preventable?

And the example of the wheels falling off trucks has already been presented. Surely you aren't suggesting real and dangerous manufactorers defects have never existed in the any of the plethora of cars that have existed? I suppose that was due to poor judgement in their buying decision though, so ultimately is that their fault? Or should they have done extra maintence...just in case?

But hey, I don't have it all figured out yet. I'm sorry I'm boring those who are so enlightened. I'll go back to my voodoo magic, who knows...maybe it'll work? I haven't been in a car accident yet.
Meh. My feeling is that there is just no safety this side of the grave. You wanna stay alive? Stay alert.

But sh!t still does happen, I'll admit. I will rephrase my statement to say that almost all collisions are preventable. Maybe there's an earthquake and the ground in front of a speeding car opens up. I suppose that couldn't be prevented. Or maybe the Russians finally drop the nukes and a couple of cars get direct hits. As far as wheels falling off, that is preventable -- the manufacturer would be negligent.

But this topic of discussion here isn't one of those unpreventable cases by a long shot, nor are the overwhelming majority of car collisions, so I don't know why we're even having this discussion.
 

her209

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Originally posted by: PingSpike
All accidents can be prevented if everyone just stays home and never drives their cars.
CO poisoning? Car falls on them while they're working on it? Electrocution from touching both probes of the battery?
 

CTrain

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I'm sorry but I hope she burns too.
Some of you kep saying it an "accident".
Its no "accident" when shes driving 1)without a license, 2)speeding, and 3)not paying attention to the road.

Sure, I've been guilty of the last 2+3 but driving without a license is like being impared with alcohol.
Theres a reason why she only has a permit, its because she needs supervision while driving and she didn't do that.

If I ever do something that stupid, I deserve every punishment possible.
 

VirtualLarry

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Originally posted by: Deeko
She's a young driver and made a mistake, it happens every day, goddamn you people stop pointing fingers and acting like you're perfect. its called an 'accident' for a reason.

There have been some unrelated stories in the news lately, about possibly raising the minimum age requirement, before being allowed to get a permit/license. I wouldn't be against moving it to at least 17+, instead of 16+ like it is now in this state (I think). I didn't get my license until I was 19, but I've been a fairly safe driver. (Only a few minor incidents, nothing high-speed, and a few of them were someone behind me not paying attention, and rear-ended me because of that.)
 

VirtualLarry

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Originally posted by: rh71
shows you how quickly your life can come to an end... you're driving along in your lane and suddenly you get sideswiped. Your life, your wife, your son... gone in an instant. Was never even your fault.
That's scary man, thanks for bringing that up. :|
Originally posted by: rh71
Inexperienced drivers tend to turn the wheel when they turn their head (she turned to the backseat in this case)... such a s#it way for some other family/friends to die.
True. I wonder if that "reflex" is similar to those that play video games, and turn their entire bodies left and right when they move the control pad too? I wonder if it's actually a "defect" or trait that affects a certain portition of the population - that it's just how they are, like people that talk with their hands.

 

VirtualLarry

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Originally posted by: Vic
I see it all the time, but then the Pacific NW has literally the country's worst drivers. And what makes it even worse is that they're all arrogant about what bad drivers they are. Seriously, it's terrible.
As crazy and aggressive as the drivers around Boston are (and as arrogant, when they have an expensive car and expect you to just get out of the way), most of them aren't inherently unsafe drivers, at least not as bad as I've seen in other places. But they do speed a lot, as a matter of course, and lack of common sense affects people everywhere. (Talking on cell phones while driving, etc.) At least we mostly use turn signals, unlike our southern-state neighbors. (Seriously, does anyone from RI use their blinkers? I've never seen it.)
 

VirtualLarry

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Originally posted by: PingSpike
Originally posted by: Insane3D
I still disagree Vic...accidents can happen and be unavoidable. Sure, there will always be a cause of some sort, but that doesn't mean it was preventable.
Of course they are. All accidents can be prevented if everyone just stays home and never drives their cars. Because when the wheels fall off your Dodge pickup, your brake lines are cut by a nefarious neighbor, a deer runs out in front of your car, a bridge support beam collapses, or a chunk of frozen feces dropped from an airplane lands on the hood of your car while driving down the freeway...its ultimately your fault for getting behind the wheel of the car and not using voodoo magic to protect yourself.
That reminds me - a few years back, some of the bridges here (they are among the oldest in the nation, and our roadways take a lot of abuse here in New England), actually fell apart. Someone I know had driven over one of them about 10min before one of them gave way... that's a truely scary though, that a bridge might just suddenly collapse from disrepair. (Now, I'm not saying that's not preventable, but in this case, it's not the driver's fault, but the bridge/roadway maint. people.)
 

suse920

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Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: KirbsAw
:( :|

Oakland, of course.

I still doubt it's as bad as boston :eek:


yeah i went from boston to california lol all the people there must have thought i was driving like a mad man. Damn you boson damn yoooooou
 

mymistake

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hello i am the girl you are all talkin about and i feel since you feel the need to discuss me in a forum i should tell my side

i was very wrong for what happened in this accident but i was not the only one at fault not only did i veer in to her lane she veered into mine i never intended this to happen nor would i wish it on anyone i feel terrible everyday of my life for this i have tried to commit suicide many times from the inccidents guilt that is part of my life for the rest of my life i hate riding in cars i hate the 580 freeway i will never be the same yes i had a permit but i was completely legal i did have a licsened driveer in the car i needed a licensed driver 18 or over with me in the car and thats what i had what they dont tell you in the article is that the woman driving the explorer had a suspended liscence and shouldnt have been on the road at all they were coming from her baby shower and her babydaddy was too drunk to drive so she had too drive i am not saying what happened was not my fault at all im just sayin but you have to understand that i did my best to advoid the accident i did not sideswipe the vehical i tried to avoid the accident and my car spineed when i turned the wheel away from the car and the back of my car hit them when my car spinned the explorer flipped at that time and those poor people died as a result of my slow reaction time i was not charged with manslaughter i was charged with driving without proper insurance due to a technicallity i did have to pay restitution to the families not that that will in anyway take the place of the family members that they have lost i am so sorry for the families and i wish more than anything that i could go back to that day and change all that happened i wish i would of died in that accident instead of them i wish it would just be me i hate having to live knowing that i have killed three people i think about that accident everyday all day i will never stop crying from the pain that i caused those people i understand your anger but i am not stupid at all i was a straight A student i was in gifted in talented education and national honor society i am not a bad driver i just made a terrible costly mistake i know that i can never make right i was wrong very wrong but you that have bloged on here are more wrong then me because you feel as if i was something i am not and i feel for you if karma evercomes around to make you eat the words that you have said about me.
 

CrackRabbit

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hello i am the girl you are all talkin about and i feel since you feel the need to discuss me in a forum i should tell my side

i was very wrong for what happened in this accident but i was not the only one at fault not only did i veer in to her lane she veered into mine i never intended this to happen nor would i wish it on anyone i feel terrible everyday of my life for this i have tried to commit suicide many times from the inccidents guilt that is part of my life for the rest of my life i hate riding in cars i hate the 580 freeway i will never be the same yes i had a permit but i was completely legal i did have a licsened driveer in the car i needed a licensed driver 18 or over with me in the car and thats what i had what they dont tell you in the article is that the woman driving the explorer had a suspended liscence and shouldnt have been on the road at all they were coming from her baby shower and her babydaddy was too drunk to drive so she had too drive i am not saying what happened was not my fault at all im just sayin but you have to understand that i did my best to advoid the accident i did not sideswipe the vehical i tried to avoid the accident and my car spineed when i turned the wheel away from the car and the back of my car hit them when my car spinned the explorer flipped at that time and those poor people died as a result of my slow reaction time i was not charged with manslaughter i was charged with driving without proper insurance due to a technicallity i did have to pay restitution to the families not that that will in anyway take the place of the family members that they have lost i am so sorry for the families and i wish more than anything that i could go back to that day and change all that happened i wish i would of died in that accident instead of them i wish it would just be me i hate having to live knowing that i have killed three people i think about that accident everyday all day i will never stop crying from the pain that i caused those people i understand your anger but i am not stupid at all i was a straight A student i was in gifted in talented education and national honor society i am not a bad driver i just made a terrible costly mistake i know that i can never make right i was wrong very wrong but you that have bloged on here are more wrong then me because you feel as if i was something i am not and i feel for you if karma evercomes around to make you eat the words that you have said about me.

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A student, uh huh.. sure.

Edit: Holy Necrothread, Batman!
 

mnewsham

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hello i am the girl you are all talkin about and i feel since you feel the need to discuss me in a forum i should tell my side

i was very wrong for what happened in this accident but i was not the only one at fault not only did i veer in to her lane she veered into mine i never intended this to happen nor would i wish it on anyone i feel terrible everyday of my life for this i have tried to commit suicide many times from the inccidents guilt that is part of my life for the rest of my life i hate riding in cars i hate the 580 freeway i will never be the same yes i had a permit but i was completely legal i did have a licsened driveer in the car i needed a licensed driver 18 or over with me in the car and thats what i had what they dont tell you in the article is that the woman driving the explorer had a suspended liscence and shouldnt have been on the road at all they were coming from her baby shower and her babydaddy was too drunk to drive so she had too drive i am not saying what happened was not my fault at all im just sayin but you have to understand that i did my best to advoid the accident i did not sideswipe the vehical i tried to avoid the accident and my car spineed when i turned the wheel away from the car and the back of my car hit them when my car spinned the explorer flipped at that time and those poor people died as a result of my slow reaction time i was not charged with manslaughter i was charged with driving without proper insurance due to a technicallity i did have to pay restitution to the families not that that will in anyway take the place of the family members that they have lost i am so sorry for the families and i wish more than anything that i could go back to that day and change all that happened i wish i would of died in that accident instead of them i wish it would just be me i hate having to live knowing that i have killed three people i think about that accident everyday all day i will never stop crying from the pain that i caused those people i understand your anger but i am not stupid at all i was a straight A student i was in gifted in talented education and national honor society i am not a bad driver i just made a terrible costly mistake i know that i can never make right i was wrong very wrong but you that have bloged on here are more wrong then me because you feel as if i was something i am not and i feel for you if karma evercomes around to make you eat the words that you have said about me.

Not gonna lie, I lol'd at the name...
 

busydude

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hello i am the girl you are all talkin about and i feel since you feel the need to discuss me in a forum i should tell my side

i was very wrong for what happened in this accident but i was not the only one at fault not only did i veer in to her lane she veered into mine i never intended this to happen nor would i wish it on anyone i feel terrible everyday of my life for this i have tried to commit suicide many times from the inccidents guilt that is part of my life for the rest of my life i hate riding in cars i hate the 580 freeway i will never be the same yes i had a permit but i was completely legal i did have a licsened driveer in the car i needed a licensed driver 18 or over with me in the car and thats what i had what they dont tell you in the article is that the woman driving the explorer had a suspended liscence and shouldnt have been on the road at all they were coming from her baby shower and her babydaddy was too drunk to drive so she had too drive i am not saying what happened was not my fault at all im just sayin but you have to understand that i did my best to advoid the accident i did not sideswipe the vehical i tried to avoid the accident and my car spineed when i turned the wheel away from the car and the back of my car hit them when my car spinned the explorer flipped at that time and those poor people died as a result of my slow reaction time i was not charged with manslaughter i was charged with driving without proper insurance due to a technicallity i did have to pay restitution to the families not that that will in anyway take the place of the family members that they have lost i am so sorry for the families and i wish more than anything that i could go back to that day and change all that happened i wish i would of died in that accident instead of them i wish it would just be me i hate having to live knowing that i have killed three people i think about that accident everyday all day i will never stop crying from the pain that i caused those people i understand your anger but i am not stupid at all i was a straight A student i was in gifted in talented education and national honor society i am not a bad driver i just made a terrible costly mistake i know that i can never make right i was wrong very wrong but you that have bloged on here are more wrong then me because you feel as if i was something i am not and i feel for you if karma evercomes around to make you eat the words that you have said about me.

Yeah, I read the entire thing. You have terrible punctuation for a straight A student. :hmm:
 

Cyco

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So...if you're not trolling, it took you 6 years to post this. Google search I suppose. Honestly if you're who you say you are I don't know if I could do the same. There are no winners here, a terrible event took place. From your post, I hope you find the forgiveness you need and hope to find. Most new single posters I think are just spammers or whatnot. In this case however, I think you're finally able to face things. I cannot offer forgiveness, nor damn you as I was not involved. I just hope you can find what you're looking for. I hope you can find the peace in yourself. Nothing can change what happened, but you can change, and hopefully change yourself. Good luck, and godspeed.
 

Dr. Zaus

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Looks legit to me.
 

jpeyton

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There are plenty of people with licenses who get into accidents that kill people. The fact that Heggie only has a learner's permit doesn't make her any more or less stupid than the licensed people. It just means licenses are as worthless as the plastic they are printed on when it comes to determining the safety of the driver.
 

Cyco

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Maybe in shock, denial, jail...who knows. I'm going out on a limb here and against all sane judgement saying this is legit. Helps that I've had a few ales in me though.
 

schneiderguy

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hello i am the girl you are all talkin about and i feel since you feel the need to discuss me in a forum i should tell my side

i was very wrong for what happened in this accident but i was not the only one at fault not only did i veer in to her lane she veered into mine i never intended this to happen nor would i wish it on anyone i feel terrible everyday of my life for this i have tried to commit suicide many times from the inccidents guilt that is part of my life for the rest of my life i hate riding in cars i hate the 580 freeway i will never be the same yes i had a permit but i was completely legal i did have a licsened driveer in the car i needed a licensed driver 18 or over with me in the car and thats what i had what they dont tell you in the article is that the woman driving the explorer had a suspended liscence and shouldnt have been on the road at all they were coming from her baby shower and her babydaddy was too drunk to drive so she had too drive i am not saying what happened was not my fault at all im just sayin but you have to understand that i did my best to advoid the accident i did not sideswipe the vehical i tried to avoid the accident and my car spineed when i turned the wheel away from the car and the back of my car hit them when my car spinned the explorer flipped at that time and those poor people died as a result of my slow reaction time i was not charged with manslaughter i was charged with driving without proper insurance due to a technicallity i did have to pay restitution to the families not that that will in anyway take the place of the family members that they have lost i am so sorry for the families and i wish more than anything that i could go back to that day and change all that happened i wish i would of died in that accident instead of them i wish it would just be me i hate having to live knowing that i have killed three people i think about that accident everyday all day i will never stop crying from the pain that i caused those people i understand your anger but i am not stupid at all i was a straight A student i was in gifted in talented education and national honor society i am not a bad driver i just made a terrible costly mistake i know that i can never make right i was wrong very wrong but you that have bloged on here are more wrong then me because you feel as if i was something i am not and i feel for you if karma evercomes around to make you eat the words that you have said about me.

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