Univ of Florida cuts off P2P users

Medea

Golden Member
Dec 5, 2000
1,606
0
0
Florida Dorms Lock Out P2P Users

By Katie Dean
02:00 AM Oct. 03, 2003 PT

The University of Florida has developed a tool to help extricate the
school from the morass of peer-to-peer file trading, and early results
show that it's succeeding.

Integrated Computer Application for Recognizing User Services,
commonly called Icarus, debuted over the summer on the network that
links all the residence halls on the UF campus.

The open-source program was developed by campus programmers to cut off
the file sharing going on among students. Housing officials say the
application educates students as it restricts them from peer-to-peer
services.

Last spring, the university received about 40 notices of copyright
violations per month. At peak file-trading periods, 90 percent of the
traffic on the housing network was peer-to-peer. In an average 24-hour
period, 3,500 of the 7,500 students in the residence halls would use P2P services like Kazaa.

"We needed something to stem the flow. We were spending too much time tracking people down," said Robert Bird, supervisor of network services for the UF department of housing. "There were too many of them and too few of us."

Enter Icarus.

"Icarus has detected about 300 people using P2P this fall," Bird said.
"That's an over 90 percent drop in people using P2P. That's a dramatic
reduction in user behavior."

[Full story in Wired -
here
 

minendo

Elite Member
Aug 31, 2001
35,560
22
81
A lot of universities suffer bandwidth clogging by p2p. Here at school, 8 people accounted for 92% of the dorm bandwidth before they started bandwidth throttling.
 

silverpig

Lifer
Jul 29, 2001
27,703
12
81
Originally posted by: minendo
A lot of universities suffer bandwidth clogging by p2p. Here at school, 8 people accounted for 92% of the dorm bandwidth before they started bandwidth throttling.

So if we take out you and your posting, that leaves 7 people making up 72% of the bandwidth :p
 

minendo

Elite Member
Aug 31, 2001
35,560
22
81
Originally posted by: silverpig
Originally posted by: minendo
A lot of universities suffer bandwidth clogging by p2p. Here at school, 8 people accounted for 92% of the dorm bandwidth before they started bandwidth throttling.

So if we take out you and your posting, that leaves 7 people making up 72% of the bandwidth :p
:p
 

EyeMWing

Banned
Jun 13, 2003
15,670
1
0
Who in the right mind would name a n 'administrative' software program Icarus? Not only does it have the meaning of that tart that flew too close to the sun and ended up as a splatter on the ground, but hasn't anybody played Deus Ex? Icarus = teh ev0l!
 

Reel

Diamond Member
Jul 14, 2001
4,484
0
76
It is an awful intrusion of privacy in the software. If I were in the dorms, I would be finding ways to violate it for projects just to tick them off. There was a slashdot article on this a few days back and some of the comments claimed to be posted by developers of this software.

What really gets me though is how they have these wonder programmers that can make this "amazing" piece of software but they can't keep their standard network services running. They also designed their own webmail from the ground up which routinely crashes. Their mail servers crash regularly. One of my friend's dorm ethernet is constantly going down. If they can't manage the simple things, who am I to believe that this complex monitoring and heuristic software is really going to work as expected?
 

Mookow

Lifer
Apr 24, 2001
10,162
0
0
They started essentially blocking P2P at OSU for 2 or three years now. I say essentially because you can still use it, just at a top speed of .01KB/s
 

aphex

Moderator<br>All Things Apple
Moderator
Jul 19, 2001
38,572
2
91
They have actually had that program running at UF for nearly a year now.... It was in the school newspaper in the spring of 2002, I think they were testing it in certain dorms to see how well it worked. Looks like it worked pretty well :)
 

Jzero

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
18,834
1
0
Originally posted by: ReelC00L
It is an awful intrusion of privacy in the software.

There can be no intrusion of privacy where you have no expectation of privacy.
 

aphex

Moderator<br>All Things Apple
Moderator
Jul 19, 2001
38,572
2
91
Originally posted by: ReelC00L
It is an awful intrusion of privacy in the software. If I were in the dorms, I would be finding ways to violate it for projects just to tick them off. There was a slashdot article on this a few days back and some of the comments claimed to be posted by developers of this software.

What really gets me though is how they have these wonder programmers that can make this "amazing" piece of software but they can't keep their standard network services running. They also designed their own webmail from the ground up which routinely crashes. Their mail servers crash regularly. One of my friend's dorm ethernet is constantly going down. If they can't manage the simple things, who am I to believe that this complex monitoring and heuristic software is really going to work as expected?

Haha got that sh!t right... My god, UF's webmail & pop3 servers are ALWAYS down.... You think the 4th largest school in the nation could get a damn mail system that works right :)
 

My buddy who goes there was telling me about this, hes in an off campus apartment though with cable so he doesnt really care anymore :p.
 

Lucky

Lifer
Nov 26, 2000
13,126
3
0
Originally posted by: Jzero
Originally posted by: ReelC00L
It is an awful intrusion of privacy in the software.

There can be no intrusion of privacy where you have no expectation of privacy.

if im paying 20K a year i expect some damm privacy. most universities have limitations on physical privacy invasions, why shouldnt it work the same way virtually?
 

Jzero

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
18,834
1
0
Originally posted by: Lucky
Originally posted by: Jzero
Originally posted by: ReelC00L
It is an awful intrusion of privacy in the software.

There can be no intrusion of privacy where you have no expectation of privacy.

if im paying 20K a year i expect some damm privacy. most universities have limitations on physical privacy invasions, why shouldnt it work the same way virtually?

Because there is no expectation of privacy built into Internet Protocol. If you are sending unencrypted data in TCP/IP packets, you may as well pick up a bullhorn and shout "secret" messages across campus. Are you going to complain that someone overheard your conversation?

Further, they don't need to see the contents of the packets, they just need to watch where they are going. The university network exists for academic purposes, and when recreational use taxes legitimate use, correctional steps are going to be taken.
 

Anubis

No Lifer
Aug 31, 2001
78,712
427
126
tbqhwy.com
they started that at my school Dickinson College. 3 years ago. after i brougt the network down myself. I alone used 77% of teh bandwidth in 1 day :D:D:D:D:D

kazaa still runs. but at like 5k/s. direct connect works. I set up a hub for our school

they block teh Bit Torrent ports

Waste also works
 

geno

Lifer
Dec 26, 1999
25,074
4
0
Originally posted by: Mookow
They started essentially blocking P2P at OSU for 2 or three years now. I say essentially because you can still use it, just at a top speed of .01KB/s

My school did that too, but HTTP Tunnel saved me from the fraction-of-a-kilobyte DLs
 

Daishiki

Golden Member
Nov 9, 2001
1,943
36
91
yup, i've been funneling songs to my uci friends via aim/cd's. even the campus apartments are blocked.