United Nations: WTF is it Good For?

[tantos]

With the Iraq and North Korea crisis...all I see is more meetings with this and that council in the UN..does anything get done?
What the hell is the UN really good for?

 

[ElFenix]

letting the haves fight amongst themselves over who gets what while the have-nots put themselves in control of the place

 

[WalMart1564]

ITS A TOOTHLESS DEBATING CLUB

worthless

 

[tantos]

I mean NK kicks out the UN Nuclear observers and they have to have a meeting to see what to do about it? I basically see the UN as allowing any bully in the world to do whatever
because no one really give's a rat's ass about anything.

 

[Czar]

UN is primarly a place for all the nations to come to gether and talk, without the UN there would be far less comunications between many countries. So having the support of the UN kinda means you have the support of the world.

Also the UN is responsible for sooo many other things, it is far more important than most people realise

 

[Desslok]

The UN helped my cousin get a pretty sweet job. He goes around to countries and helps them get national parks set up. I remember his first trip was to Mongolia.

 

[OFFascist]

To stroke each other and pretend that they and the rest of mankind is civillized.

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: Desslok
The UN helped my cousin get a pretty sweet job. He goes around to countries and helps them get national parks set up. I remember his first trip was to Mongolia.

Interesting. I'm trying to picture a Mongolian national park.. "1700 years ago today, Ghengis Khan was born in a tent in this field.." - Park Ranger Temujin

 

[Zugzwang152]

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: Desslok
The UN helped my cousin get a pretty sweet job. He goes around to countries and helps them get national parks set up. I remember his first trip was to Mongolia.

Interesting. I'm trying to picture a Mongolian national park.. "1700 years ago today, Ghengis Khan was born in a tent in this field.." - Park Ranger Temujin

they had tents back then? :Q

 

[Desslok]

Originally posted by: Zugzwang152

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: Desslok The UN helped my cousin get a pretty sweet job. He goes around to countries and helps them get national parks set up. I remember his first trip was to Mongolia.

Interesting. I'm trying to picture a Mongolian national park.. "1700 years ago today, Ghengis Khan was born in a tent in this field.." - Park Ranger Temujin

they had tents back then? :Q

More like what they call a Yurt(sp). Basically a round tent made out of animal skins.

When he would talk about fences and borders all the heardsmen would ask him what a fence was and the purpose of it. It sounded like the last really wild place in the world.

 

[N8Magic]

Originally posted by: Czar
UN is primarly a place for all the nations to come to gether and talk, without the UN there would be far less comunications between many countries. So having the support of the UN kinda means you have the support of the world.

Also the UN is responsible for sooo many other things, it is far more important than most people realise

Well put.

 

[anxman69]

The U.N. is clearly run by the USA. Just look at the repeated votes on chastigating Israel for severe human rights violations ... yet, surprisingly, thanks to the USA's sway vote, nothing happens :-/

-Ankur

 

[tbates757]

In my opinion it's just one step closer to a one world government, it's run by socialists. In reality they have no real power

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: anxman69
The U.N. is clearly run by the USA. Just look at the repeated votes on chastigating Israel for severe human rights violations ... yet, surprisingly, thanks to the USA's sway vote, nothing happens :-/

-Ankur

good lord, not again. always israel. just point your finger at the entire middle east then, its one big giant human rights violation.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: tbates757
In my opinion it's just one step closer to a one world government, it's run by socialists. In reality they have no real power

Christian? Not trying to slag you, but One World government isn't likely to be brought about by the UN. The US is moving towards it and is in a position to form it. What does the scripture say, that even the elect would be deceived?

 

[anxman69]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

Originally posted by: anxman69
The U.N. is clearly run by the USA. Just look at the repeated votes on chastigating Israel for severe human rights violations ... yet, surprisingly, thanks to the USA's sway vote, nothing happens :-/

-Ankur

good lord, not again. always israel. just point your finger at the entire middle east then, its one big giant human rights violation.

My point is that the UN has frequently condemned Israel ... but that it doesn't matter because the US has the final say. Whether there are human rights in other Middle-Eastern countries doesn't change this fact.

-Ankur

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: WalMart1564
ITS A TOOTHLESS DEBATING CLUB worthless

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: axiom
The UN is merely symbolic of cooperation. Or if you study the truth, then the UN is merely symbolic of the lack of justice. As all UN accords are just agreements they really have no meaning in the real world. If they did we wouldn't permit NK to starve their people. We wouldn't let Textile Merchants exploit cheap labor as in sweatshops. We wouldn't let the minority run over the majority simply because they are fewer in numbers.

The UN is flawed with the absence of God. It seeks to reason with human beings using human thought and philosophy. It believes that all men are good when even modern history proves that idea to be false. The UN is much like a military treating it's Five Star, War torn, Generals in the exact same way it treats 1 day recruits. They are clearly not equal in character, yet they are equal in voice.

so you want to put religion into the UN, christianity, islam, judiasm, buddism and so on and on?

 

[SnapIT]

What this thread shows is just that too many people don't have a clue what the UN is all about...

As a former UN soldier i can tell you that the peacekeeping forced do a lot of good... If the UN is all worthless, which forces should be stationed as peacekeeping forces?

The UN isn't perfect but it's the best we got, if the world ever comes close to WWIII i believe that the only place the differences could be settled before war happens is the UN...

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: tantos
I mean NK kicks out the UN Nuclear observers and they have to have a meeting to see what to do about it? I basically see the UN as allowing any bully in the world to do whatever
because no one really give's a rat's ass about anything.

What do you suggest they do about it? Nuke them?

Diplomacy is something worthwhile, one day even you will grow up and understand that...

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: axiom

so you want to put religion into the UN, christianity, islam, judiasm, buddism and so on and on?

Nope. I don't want to put Religion in the UN. I think the UN seeks to remove Religion from us. 90% of the world believes in God yet God is absent from 80% of the world's governments. God told man to trust in him. God gave man commandments that asked us not to kill eachother, steal from eachother and to love our neighbor, yet man claims these accomplishments for himself.

Considering how much evil has been done and is being done every day in the name of god, i think it's a good idea not to include religion in any form of government...

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: axiom

so you want to put religion into the UN, christianity, islam, judiasm, buddism and so on and on?

Nope. I don't want to put Religion in the UN. I think the UN seeks to remove Religion from us. 90% of the world believes in God yet God is absent from 80% of the world's governments. God told man to trust in him. God gave man commandments that asked us not to kill eachother, steal from eachother and to love our neighbor, yet man claims these accomplishments for himself.

so you want the UN to put religion into other governments?

 

[Dedpuhl]

The UN is a good idea, but it is flawed when trying to mix the ideologies of numerous nations. Democrats and Republicans can't get along in the US. How the hell are all these nations supposed to?

Originally posted by: axiom

so you want to put religion into the UN, christianity, islam, judiasm, buddism and so on and on?

Nope. I don't want to put Religion in the UN. I think the UN seeks to remove Religion from us. 90% of the world believes in God yet God is absent from 80% of the world's governments. God told man to trust in him. God gave man commandments that asked us not to kill eachother, steal from eachother and to love our neighbor, yet man claims these accomplishments for himself.

33% of the world believes in the Xian God
20% of the world believes in the Islamic God
47% of the world believes in either no god or a completely different god.

That's a far cry from 90% of the world.

Source

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: axiom

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: axiom

so you want to put religion into the UN, christianity, islam, judiasm, buddism and so on and on?

Nope. I don't want to put Religion in the UN. I think the UN seeks to remove Religion from us. 90% of the world believes in God yet God is absent from 80% of the world's governments. God told man to trust in him. God gave man commandments that asked us not to kill eachother, steal from eachother and to love our neighbor, yet man claims these accomplishments for himself.

so you want the UN to put religion into other governments?

The UN is an answer to a problem. That problem is/was lack of communication between nations to resolve differences. My view is that the world has taken the view that we need the UN, however what we really need is to trust in God. How can 90% of the world trust in God yet our governments do not and will not reflect our faith? That an easy question to answer, God has been run out of town by that leftover 10%. God's laws have been replaced by the laws of Men.

Man has no need for the UN. We could have six UNs or ten EUs or 1 world government and the world would still have Kim Jong Ils and Osama Bin Ladens and President Bushes. Stacking governmental bodies does not solve problems. Faith on the otherhand solves the big problem, imperfect men.

When, where, and how has the UN removed "God" from governments? The US was the first(in the modern Western world) to remove "God" from government, the USSR, China, and other Communist nations came later and were definitely anti-"God", but the UN has not sought any such thing, unless you can provide some proof.

 

[MPowered77]