United Flight 93 that came down on Sept. 11...shot down ?

TurtleMan

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I think .......... US goverment shot down the flight 93 that crashed at Pennsylvania ..........
Because at that time, 2 F-16 took off from one of the near airbase, forgot which , maybe camp davis
and at precisly 9:47 they disappeear from the Radar and at 9:55, flight 93 crashed down
and the parts was everywhere, it doesn't look like a airplane that crashed into the ground, but more like
an airplane that got blow up in the air and part flew like 10 to god know watever miles from the crash site......

i think US goverment is covering this one... u think ?


Edit: Why are you guys trusting the news ? they are just a tool for goverment to spread the information that goverment want us to hear to the public
, are they 100% rite ? HECK NO. Plane took a dive into the ground. okay, F-16 was firing maybe not missle but machine gun at the plane tail, maybe it went down like that. US goverment knew this plane is going to Camp Davis , disregard whether those brave hero took control of the plane or not, if you thinik in term of " Camp Davis vs Peoples on the plane ", i think our fragging goverment will go for the camp davis. That is how our goverment is ...
 

Chiboy

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Yes, This is my guess & was disscussed on the news then they suddenly stopped talking about it. I believe it was shot down. Maybe you want to create a poll.
 

Wheezer

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Doubt it. But even if they did I wouldn't blame them. Too much evidence point to the passengers trying taking that plane over, which I think they succeeded. Unfortunatley in the struggle to gain control the plane started for the ground but it was to late. I belive today they have released more information and a bit more of the cockpit recorder. From what I understand they gained entry to the cockpit by raming a cart through the door.

Some very great and courageous people were on that plane.
 

datalink7

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Originally posted by: chiwawa626
Coulda always been a bomb rite? It didnt have to be a missile.

That is what I think. The passengers rushed the terriorists, and were taking back the plane. My guess is that the terririosts set off a bomb instead of being taken hostage.
 

rbhawcroft

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yeah probably a suicide bomb by the hijackers and the feds say nothing because they let it walk on board.
 

Nefrodite

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by aliens that saw what the terrorists were doing and got so disgusted they forgot about their prime directive for just a momment.
 

Linflas

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Originally posted by: Czar
hasnt this been investigated?

By everyone but the folks that see the black helicopters. Flight 93 took a nose dive straight into the ground which spread tiny bits of debris everywhere in a concentrated area. Planes exploded in mid flight ala the Pan Am Lockerbie incident leave large portions of airplane on the ground spread over a wide area.
 

chiwawa626

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BTW, why would they have a bomb, wouldnt that go against their instructions, or the rest of the hijackers instructions, why would this group been assigned something diffrent. And if the F-16s really took this plane out isnt there someone who saw the plane in the air way high up there after they heard the boom of the missile and saw it crash and burn while in air?
 

Nefrodite

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Originally posted by: chiwawa626
BTW, why would they have a bomb, wouldnt that go against their instructions, or the rest of the hijackers instructions, why would this group been assigned something diffrent. And if the F-16s really took this plane out isnt there someone who saw the plane in the air way high up there after they heard the boom of the missile and saw it crash and burn while in air?


because they were chinese f-16s:)
 

kyutip

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I think that Flight 93 got show down, but all I know is the people in Flight 93 sacrifice themselves for their country regardless what you believe.
 

Lucky

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normally I'd be skeptical of what the government says about what happened in a situation like this...but the fact is that there were multiple cell phone conversations from passengers....not to mention the one from todd beamer with the infamous "lets roll" words. That it, unless you also believe todd beamer was a fabrication of the united states government.
 

Linflas

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Originally posted by: kyutip
I think that Flight 93 got show down, but all I know is the people in Flight 93 sacrifice themselves for their country regardless what you believe.

You can also believe the moon is made of green cheese but that does not make it so. If the aircraft was shot down the debris would have been scattered over a miles wide area rather than concentrated as it was. Further it is known that the orders were issued to shoot down if necessary any other aircraft that may have been taken by terrorists. What possible interest would the government have in covering this up given that the entire nation knew what was taking place and would have accepted the shoot down as necessary for the greater good?
 

timmyG

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in not saying that hero stuff wasn't true, but i think the reason it came down was because it was shot down. if you were the government, which would you rather have people belief? it doesnt really matter anyways. Im just glad it didnt crash into another building.
 

jjones

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Why would anyone think this plane was shot down? Where is there any evidence pointing to that? Or does it just make people feel good to think there are government conspiracies?
 

Linflas

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Originally posted by: jjones
Why would anyone think this plane was shot down? Where is there any evidence pointing to that? Or does it just make people feel good to think there are government conspiracies?

The amazing thing is people can honestly believe that the same government that cannot keep vital national defense secrets from being stolen somehow becomes omnipotent when it comes to their pet conspiracy.
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StageLeft

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Originally posted by: TurtleMan
I think .......... US goverment shot down the flight 93 that crashed at Pennsylvania ..........
Because at that time, 2 F-16 took off from one of the near airbase, forgot which , maybe camp davis
and at precisly 9:47 they disappeear from the Radar and at 9:55, flight 93 crashed down
and the parts was everywhere, it doesn't look like a airplane that crashed into the ground, but more like
an airplane that got blow up in the air and part flew like 10 to god know watever miles from the crash site......

i think US goverment is covering this one... u think ?
I think you you need to seriously stop smoking crack and get at least a semblance of a clue.

 

Hammer

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I agree with Skoorb. They planes that were sent to intercept where still to far out at the time it went down. Plus, they already said that if they were in that situation again, they're are 2 air force generals now with the authority to order a plane shot down and they will do it.
 

tcsenter

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I think US goverment shot down the flight 93 that crashed at Pennsylvania
Well you're certainly entitled to think whatever you want, but shouldn't your 'thoughts' be based on sound reasoning and fact?
Because at that time, 2 F-16 took off from one of the near airbase, forgot which , maybe camp davis
It was three F-16's from the North Dakota Air National Guard's 178th Fighter Squadron (Happy Hooligans) NORAD Detachment at Langley AFB in Virginia.
and at precisly 9:47 they disappeear from the Radar and at 9:55, flight 93 crashed down and the parts was everywhere, it doesn't look like a airplane that crashed into the ground, but more like an airplane that got blow up in the air and part flew like 10 to god know watever miles from the crash site
"Parts" did not fly "like 10 to god knows whatever miles from the crash site". Any remaining portions of the aircraft's parts were found within a few hundred yards of the main crash site.

Debris was found up to 10 miles away from the crash site, directly downwind. What was this "debris"? Lightweight, partially incinerated, bits of paper, foam, and the like. One man found a partially burned check stub 8 miles away that smelled like jet fuel which turned-out to be from the Flight 93 crash. Nothing but light and blowable debris was found "miles" away, presumably debris which was blown into the air by the huge fire-ball dozens of witnesses reported.

Please, if you want to get double-digit IQ on us, do it elsewhere.
 

tcsenter

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Planes exploded in mid flight ala the Pan Am Lockerbie incident leave large portions of airplane on the ground spread over a wide area.
Yeah, like 300 miles away they were finding parts of the Pan Am 747 Lockerbie crash. That was a bit different in that it exploded at 30,000 feet plus. Jet Stream currents at 20,000 feet can reach 200MPH, the average world wide is like 80MPH, and so debris falling through the Jet Stream will be carried pretty far, hundreds of miles in many cases.

Flight 93 would have only been a couple thousand feet off the ground at the time *IF* it were shot out of the sky. There were a dozen people on the ground throughout Somerset county who made a visual on Flight 93 before it crashed, including one private pilot who was asked by controllers to look out his window and report if he saw a commercial airliner, which he confirmed. Funny, though, none of these witnesses report seeing military aircraft in chase.

There was a private business jet in the area, from which the FAA requested assistance to locate and confirm the crash site within minutes of the crash, and at least two people did report an "all white jet" circling the crash site immediately after Flight 93 crashed. Lest we are to believe they're painting F-16's all white now-a-days...