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After we liberated his country, and paid for his treatment....what gall. Shows that Arabs will just never learn.
After we liberated his country, and paid for his treatment....what gall. Shows that Arabs will just never learn.
Lonyo, after a while you'll learn that Justin lives on Bizarro World and realize that he believes the exact opposite of what he says.
Originally posted by: Gaard
Poor kid. I don't blame him for having bitter feelings. He may look at things differently when he grows up, but I wouldn't expect a kid, especially one who lost 15 family members, to feel any different than the way he does.
Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
But what of all the other children that will now keep their arms because Saddam isn't there to blow them off?
US soldiers bulldoze farmers' crops
Americans accused of brutal 'punishment' tactics against villagers, while British are condemned as too soft
By Patrick Cockburn in Dhuluaya
12 October 2003
US soldiers driving bulldozers, with jazz blaring from loudspeakers, have uprooted ancient groves of date palms as well as orange and lemon trees in central Iraq as part of a new policy of collective punishment of farmers who do not give information about guerrillas attacking US troops.
Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
But what of all the other children that will now keep their arms because Saddam isn't there to blow them off?
Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
But what of all the other children that will now keep their arms because Saddam isn't there to blow them off?
Originally posted by: JackStorm
Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
But what of all the other children that will now keep their arms because Saddam isn't there to blow them off?
That's not really what this thread is about. We all know (I hope) of the damage hussein has and would have done in the future ( I was for him being removed, just didn't like the way they went about doing it). The problem is that people are somehow EXPECTING him to be grateful, and that's absured. I know I sure as hell wouldn't be grateful for any "help" I got from the person (or people) who caused my familys death and the loss of my arms. The boy has all the right in the world to be angry at the one who caused his suffering.
p.s: I really find it annoying when people try to turn this into something political or use it as propaganda, so please people, lets not go there (even though this is a political forum) this belongs in the "news" part of P&N. I also hope news reporters (and everyone else for that matter) will have the desency to not attack the boy (such as calling him ungrateful) after what's happened to him.
Originally posted by: tnitsuj
Originally posted by: JackStorm
Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
But what of all the other children that will now keep their arms because Saddam isn't there to blow them off?
That's not really what this thread is about. We all know (I hope) of the damage hussein has and would have done in the future ( I was for him being removed, just didn't like the way they went about doing it). The problem is that people are somehow EXPECTING him to be grateful, and that's absured. I know I sure as hell wouldn't be grateful for any "help" I got from the person (or people) who caused my familys death and the loss of my arms. The boy has all the right in the world to be angry at the one who caused his suffering.
p.s: I really find it annoying when people try to turn this into something political or use it as propaganda, so please people, lets not go there (even though this is a political forum) this belongs in the "news" part of P&N. I also hope news reporters (and everyone else for that matter) will have the desency to not attack the boy (such as calling him ungrateful) after what's happened to him.
Your damn right he is ungrateful and we as Americans are right to be righteously angry at this sort of attitude. We went to Iraq to liberate them after they allowed thier country to spiral out of control becoming a threat to the US, the region, and its own people. They did nothing, forcing us to take the initiative.
You know what is wrong in Iraq right now? The Iraqis. The US had a brilliant plan that resulted in military victory in 3 weeks. The pentagon led by Rumsfeld and his associates rightly expected that the Iraqis would welcome us as the liberators we are and step up to the plate and rebuild thier country. Did they do that? No!!!! The bitch and whine about the power, about bandits, about "security". Was it US soldiers who looted things? No!!! It is the Iraqis. Ungrateful is a mild term for it. Now we have to clean up thier mess once again.
Originally posted by: JackStorm
Originally posted by: tnitsuj
Originally posted by: JackStorm
Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
But what of all the other children that will now keep their arms because Saddam isn't there to blow them off?
That's not really what this thread is about. We all know (I hope) of the damage hussein has and would have done in the future ( I was for him being removed, just didn't like the way they went about doing it). The problem is that people are somehow EXPECTING him to be grateful, and that's absured. I know I sure as hell wouldn't be grateful for any "help" I got from the person (or people) who caused my familys death and the loss of my arms. The boy has all the right in the world to be angry at the one who caused his suffering.
p.s: I really find it annoying when people try to turn this into something political or use it as propaganda, so please people, lets not go there (even though this is a political forum) this belongs in the "news" part of P&N. I also hope news reporters (and everyone else for that matter) will have the desency to not attack the boy (such as calling him ungrateful) after what's happened to him.
Your damn right he is ungrateful and we as Americans are right to be righteously angry at this sort of attitude. We went to Iraq to liberate them after they allowed thier country to spiral out of control becoming a threat to the US, the region, and its own people. They did nothing, forcing us to take the initiative.
You know what is wrong in Iraq right now? The Iraqis. The US had a brilliant plan that resulted in military victory in 3 weeks. The pentagon led by Rumsfeld and his associates rightly expected that the Iraqis would welcome us as the liberators we are and step up to the plate and rebuild thier country. Did they do that? No!!!! The bitch and whine about the power, about bandits, about "security". Was it US soldiers who looted things? No!!! It is the Iraqis. Ungrateful is a mild term for it. Now we have to clean up thier mess once again.
Of course... this is all the Iraqs fault, they don't want to fallow our way of life/living so something most be "wrong" with them. You're also asuming all Iraqis wanted to be "liberated" sure the kurds wanted hussein gone, and most likely so did most of the shi'ite. But you forget, many of them remember the past and being abandoned (the shi'ite's) by the americans after being insited to rebel against hussin (can't remember if it was the CIA or the pentagon that did it, anyone who has more detailed info on is welcome to correct me here). Also, many Iraqs didn't want the U.S there anymore than they wanted hussein.
And again, you forget that all the "rebuilding" that needs to be done is due to sanctions (which U.S refued remove even though people were suffering) and the wars (first which was husseins fault, current war which is the U.S fault).
I see you also seem to think, regardless of proof one way or another, that hussin was somehow a threat to the U.S. Again here I'm inclined to tell you to wait untill any proof of such plaim is proven or dis-proven.
I don't know, but it's almost as if you expect all people to want to fallow your way of living. Ever crossed you mind that some people (and no, I'm not talking about terrorists here) don't want the american way of life or democracy?
Also, I wouldn't call this a military victory just yet. Wait untill the country has an elected goverment and untill the dayly fighting is over, before you call it that.
And please, remember this is a kid, his family died. of course he's angry, to expect anything else, is, as I've said before "absurd". He's abound to say things people wont "like".
Damn, you must be getting "short" here in CONUS, aren't you?Originally posted by: tnitsuj
Your damn right he is ungrateful and we as Americans are right to be righteously angry at this sort of attitude. We went to Iraq to liberate them after they allowed thier country to spiral out of control becoming a threat to the US, the region, and its own people. They did nothing, forcing us to take the initiative.
You know what is wrong in Iraq right now? The Iraqis. The US had a brilliant plan that resulted in military victory in 3 weeks. The pentagon led by Rumsfeld and his associates rightly expected that the Iraqis would welcome us as the liberators we are and step up to the plate and rebuild thier country. Did they do that? No!!!! The bitch and whine about the power, about bandits, about "security". Was it US soldiers who looted things? No!!! It is the Iraqis. Ungrateful is a mild term for it. Now we have to clean up thier mess once again.
Originally posted by: burnedout
Damn, you must be getting "short" here in CONUS, aren't you?Originally posted by: tnitsuj
Your damn right he is ungrateful and we as Americans are right to be righteously angry at this sort of attitude. We went to Iraq to liberate them after they allowed thier country to spiral out of control becoming a threat to the US, the region, and its own people. They did nothing, forcing us to take the initiative.
You know what is wrong in Iraq right now? The Iraqis. The US had a brilliant plan that resulted in military victory in 3 weeks. The pentagon led by Rumsfeld and his associates rightly expected that the Iraqis would welcome us as the liberators we are and step up to the plate and rebuild thier country. Did they do that? No!!!! The bitch and whine about the power, about bandits, about "security". Was it US soldiers who looted things? No!!! It is the Iraqis. Ungrateful is a mild term for it. Now we have to clean up thier mess once again.
Seriously though, good luck when you deploy.
Oh hell, you'll be OK then.Originally posted by: tnitsuj
Originally posted by: burnedout
Damn, you must be getting "short" here in CONUS, aren't you?Originally posted by: tnitsuj
Your damn right he is ungrateful and we as Americans are right to be righteously angry at this sort of attitude. We went to Iraq to liberate them after they allowed thier country to spiral out of control becoming a threat to the US, the region, and its own people. They did nothing, forcing us to take the initiative.
You know what is wrong in Iraq right now? The Iraqis. The US had a brilliant plan that resulted in military victory in 3 weeks. The pentagon led by Rumsfeld and his associates rightly expected that the Iraqis would welcome us as the liberators we are and step up to the plate and rebuild thier country. Did they do that? No!!!! The bitch and whine about the power, about bandits, about "security". Was it US soldiers who looted things? No!!! It is the Iraqis. Ungrateful is a mild term for it. Now we have to clean up thier mess once again.
Seriously though, good luck when you deploy.
contracter actually. Looks like November 10 or therabouts I head to Kuwait.
Originally posted by: tnitsuj
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After we liberated his country, and paid for his treatment....what gall. Shows that Arabs will just never learn.
Originally posted by: tnitsuj
You know what is wrong in Iraq right now? The Iraqis. The US had a brilliant plan that resulted in military victory in 3 weeks.
Originally posted by: tnitsuj
Blah, blah, blah, blah bleeding heart.
Step aside and let the real Americans take care of business.
Originally posted by: OFFascist
Sucks to be him.
It would have been better had he died with the rest of his family.