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Feel free to come up with a game plan to combat the republican obstruction. May I remind you that these are the same republicans that filibustered their own bill! These are the same guys that have tried to repeal the ACA 50+ times. These are the same people that said no to a 8 to 1 spending decrease to tax increase. These same people that complained about a 700 million dollar medicade cut and then included that same cut in their own budget.

The problem has nothing to do with people being unable to do a better job, it has to do with working with a psychotic partner. Have you ever tried working with a psycho? There is no reasoning or logic that gets through to them.

Here is where I would start. Never take a vacation, every single day at a set time head to an obvious location and state you are there to fix x problem and wait for representatives show up. If I were in congress I would have stayed in the house or senate waiting to take a vote about ISIS actions. State your intentions and visibly wait or follow up. Speak to press or citizens whenever possible about what you want to accomplish and reiterate when & where you would like to meet up about discussions.
 

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Here is where I would start. Never take a vacation, every single day at a set time head to an obvious location and state you are there to fix x problem and wait for representatives show up. If I were in congress I would have stayed in the house or senate waiting to take a vote about ISIS actions. State your intentions and visibly wait or follow up. Speak to press or citizens whenever possible about what you want to accomplish and reiterate when & where you would like to meet up about discussions.

And you think the American people will care? This congress has had more vacations this year then all of Obamas vacations since being elected! They are on pace to pass the least amount of laws than any other congress. If Americans, such as yourself, don't care who is to blame then why would they care about some congress person sitting in a recessed congress?
 

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Exactly my point I'm here to get something done & you're not

I understand your point, I wish it was that simple, it's not. You, alone, cannot do anything in congress, your stunt would be considered a PR stunt, just like all of the other PR stunts elected officials pull. It might get you a weeks worth of camera time buts it's not going to do anything and I'm not sure exactly why you think it would.
 

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Those were also times when Americans bought almost exclusively American made stuff. There was probably only one high tech device in the household, a TV, and odds are you were wearing your brothers hand-me-down clothes and playing with his old toys. There very well may have been only one car, dad took it to work all week and mom took it to the grocery store on Saturdays. People ate in. Eating out was a special occasion not a way of life. Cable, internet and cell phone bills non-existent. These are the descendants of those that weathered the great depression.

It wasn't just the income that was different back then, it was the lifestyle.
That's an excellent point. It isn't JUST the taxes; it isn't even mostly the taxes. We've shifted to a two-earner family unit because there is more stuff available and we want more of it.

Wait, now you're complaining that he moved quickly? How long should he have waited to pass a bill?
Ah, the proggie view. Obama passed one giveaway, and if it didn't do what he said it would do, it's because of the Republicans.

Stimulus rex did what a stimulus can do - give the economy a breather to break the free-fall as employers lay off people trying to get ahead of the falling economy. You'll never build a health economy giving away money.

Here is where I would start. Never take a vacation, every single day at a set time head to an obvious location and state you are there to fix x problem and wait for representatives show up. If I were in congress I would have stayed in the house or senate waiting to take a vote about ISIS actions. State your intentions and visibly wait or follow up. Speak to press or citizens whenever possible about what you want to accomplish and reiterate when & where you would like to meet up about discussions.
You've got some very good points in this thread. Were Obama as good as Reagan at going directly to the public, he'd be much more able to get his way in Congress. Part of that is Obama being a mediocre public speaker in spite of the press' many accolades, but much of it is that the things he wants passed are not very popular. The Pubbies have the same problem - they have things they'd like to get passed, but while they may be popular with some people they are unpopular with others. Thus for both parties it's much more effective to criticize the other party's proposals (both real and imagined) than to push one's own.

As far as Obama not taking vacations, that might be dangerous. A President needs to be as relaxed and recharged as one can be in that position, since many of his decisions are literally life and death.