Unemployment down to 6 year low @ 5.9%. 248,000 jobs added Sept. July/Aug. revised

[senseamp]

So your insults are as weak as your understanding of what is actually going on.

Don't worry, we have a resident Republican old geezer at work, he tells us what's "going on" during lunch. We all pretend like he is talking sense and not just regurgitating AM radio.

 

[fskimospy]

No, it's just that since then he has done nothing but blame Bush, blame Republican for instead of fixing the problems he promised to fix.

Such as?

 

[Matt1970]

Such as?

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/browse/

 

[senseamp]

Proposal rejected by GOP is not same as promise broken. Looks like a sensationalist site.

 

[ivwshane]

Proposal rejected by GOP is not same as promise broken. Looks like a sensationalist site.

I don't know, it looks like he kept quite a few promises so I have no idea what matts talking about.

 

[Matt1970]

I don't know, it looks like he kept quite a few promises so I have no idea what matts talking about.

I guess it depends on where we are setting the bar. "he kept more promises than he broke" is setting it pretty low.

 

[massmedia]

How is unemployment measured technically?

• Whom is included in the counting, who is excluded?
• How many (#) of the excluded people fit a profile that the layman would count as unemployed?

 

[fskimospy]

How is unemployment measured technically?

• Whom is included in the counting, who is excluded?
• How many (#) of the excluded people fit a profile that the layman would count as unemployed?

There are six different measures of unemployment.

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t15.htm

 

[massmedia]

There are six different measures of unemployment.

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t15.htm

Good link, thanks.

The WSJ has an informative little vid (pretty girl too) on the subject I just found. Sounds like economists are also interested in the U-6# (11.8%).

The U6# includes more people who themselves would probably consider themselves "unemployed" if you were to ask them. This tells me that the media should be reporting U-6 (11.8%) rather than the dubiously titled "total unemployed" U-3 @5.9% .

 

[senseamp]

All measures of employment are improving steadily under Obama, and have been for 5+ years, but the media keeps talking down the economy.

 

[ivwshane]

Good link, thanks.

The WSJ has an informative little vid (pretty girl too) on the subject I just found. Sounds like economists are also interested in the U-6# (11.8%).

The U6# includes more people who themselves would probably consider themselves "unemployed" if you were to ask them. This tells me that the media should be reporting U-6 (11.8%) rather than the dubiously titled "total unemployed" U-3 @5.9% .

Why would they use a number that has never been used before when talking to the public about unemployment? I guess if you want to cause hysteria and outrage it makes sense.

 

[ivwshane]

I guess it depends on where we are setting the bar. "he kept more promises than he broke" is setting it pretty low.

How many promises can obama keep that doesn't require congress and can be stopped by no one but himself?

 

[senseamp]

How many promises can obama keep that doesn't require congress and can be stopped by no one but himself?

That site is confusing a proposal with a promise. Because "broken promise" gets more clicks than "proposal obstructed by House and/or Senate GOP," and shifts the blame to Obama.

 

[Matt1970]

How many promises can obama keep that doesn't require congress and can be stopped by no one but himself?

Are we really going to blame congress for every broken promise?

 

[dmcowen674]

If it was a Republican president, same people would be telling us how well trickle-down is working.

So true, you made me spit out my coffee.

 

[ivwshane]

Are we really going to blame congress for every broken promise?

Feel free to find something obama promised that doesn't require congress.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Guys lets not get distracted by all the partisan crap. This is still good news and the unemployment rate is still unacceptably high. It's good for working people when its under 3%. There still is much work to do and we should expect our elected officials to solve problems not become obstacles. This applies to Obama, yes the Republicans have been tough to deal with but regardless that is hand he was felt, this also applies to the jack asses that keep threatening extreme measures like government shut down's or are completely unable to compromise.

 

[ivwshane]

Guys lets not get distracted by all the partisan crap. This is still good news and the unemployment rate is still unacceptably high. It's good for working people when its under 3%. There still is much work to do and we should expect our elected officials to solve problems not become obstacles. This applies to Obama, yes the Republicans have been tough to deal with but regardless that is hand he was felt, this also applies to the jack asses that keep threatening extreme measures like government shut down's or are completely unable to compromise.

Attitudes like this is why things won't change. Not putting the blame and assigning the repercussions where they belong only strengthen the republicans thought process that obstruction is the way to go. After all, if we are assigning blame equally then republicans win by default, they keep democrat policies from being enacted and they don't take any political heat (no more so than the democrats).

This false equivilance stuff is bullshit and that of the intellectually lazy.

 

[Matt1970]

Feel free to find something obama promised that doesn't require congress.

Lets start with what I believe was the first one he broke after getting into office. The one where he promised to post bills on the White House website 5 days prior to them being signed.

 

[Matt1970]

Attitudes like this is why things won't change. Not putting the blame and assigning the repercussions where they belong only strengthen the republicans thought process that obstruction is the way to go. After all, if we are assigning blame equally then republicans win by default, they keep democrat policies from being enacted and they don't take any political heat (no more so than the democrats).

This false equivilance stuff is bullshit and that of the intellectually lazy.

And attitudes like yours is why partisan bickering is at a whole new level lately. It's why politicians are more interested in getting in front of the camera and playing the blame game rather than actually doing their jobs. I actually prefer it. Our government has a tendency to make things worse in their attempts to 'fix' thing.

 

[ivwshane]

And attitudes like yours is why partisan bickering is at a whole new level lately. It's why politicians are more interested in getting in front of the camera and playing the blame game rather than actually doing their jobs. I actually prefer it. Our government has a tendency to make things worse in their attempts to 'fix' thing.

Lol! Do you have any idea how much you contradict yourself? I see it clearly now, you are indeed a troll.

 

[Matt1970]

Lol! Do you have any idea how much you contradict yourself? I see it clearly now, you are indeed a troll.

It took you this long to see it?

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Attitudes like this is why things won't change. Not putting the blame and assigning the repercussions where they belong only strengthen the republicans thought process that obstruction is the way to go. After all, if we are assigning blame equally then republicans win by default, they keep democrat policies from being enacted and they don't take any political heat (no more so than the democrats).

This false equivilance stuff is bullshit and that of the intellectually lazy.

You seemed to miss my point its about accountability to get something done. It's not about saying no to everything or caving so one side gets everything they want. If you can't get the primary function of you're job done you are not doing it right and need to redirect your efforts.

 

[TheSlamma]

U-6 unemployment rate still at 11.8%

Back to work people, our fellow lazy Americans are still needing a LOT of assistance.

 

[ivwshane]

You seemed to miss my point its about accountability to get something done. It's not about saying no to everything or caving so one side gets everything they want. If you can't get the primary function of you're job done you are not doing it right and need to redirect your efforts.

Feel free to come up with a game plan to combat the republican obstruction. May I remind you that these are the same republicans that filibustered their own bill! These are the same guys that have tried to repeal the ACA 50+ times. These are the same people that said no to a 8 to 1 spending decrease to tax increase. These same people that complained about a 700 million dollar medicade cut and then included that same cut in their own budget.

The problem has nothing to do with people being unable to do a better job, it has to do with working with a psychotic partner. Have you ever tried working with a psycho? There is no reasoning or logic that gets through to them.