Unemnployment insurance increased to 99 weeks. Socialist Amerika :(

[JEDI]

http://money.cnn.com/2010/04/23/new...nt_benefits/index.htm?source=cnn_bin&hpt=Sbin

advocates want Congress to once again extend the duration of benefits. Unemployment insurance (to triple digits). they say it keeps people from defaulting on their mortgages and turning to public services, such as welfare and emergency housing. The payments keep food on the table and the lights on.

Others argue that the reason there are so many people still out of work is because they have unemployment benefits to fall back on. If they weren't getting a weekly check, they'd be forced to get a job.

"People think that when benefits run out, most people will still be unemployed," Reynolds said. But "most will accept jobs that are less than ideal shortly before benefits run out."


i say Enuf of this social welfare!

What do you think?


Update (6/24/10):
another Additional Unemployment benefits extension nixed!

http://money.cnn.com/2010/06/24/news...dex.htm?hpt=T2

The legislation failed by a 57-41 vote.
The bill will now be pulled instead of trying for a 4th (!) time to pass the bill.

omg.. the purse string have (finally) closed!

i guess the Senates appatite is satatied at 99weeks


Update 7/20:
http://money.cnn.com/2010/07/20/news...pt=T1&iref=BN1

Senate passes Jobless benefits extension

ands it's RETROACTIVE to the previous deadline of June 2. D:

Sigh!

 

[Tristicus]

While I believe that the government is there to help some people in honest to goodness times of need, 99 weeks? Really? It shouldn't even be a full year.

 

[WHAMPOM]

That de-ja-vue thing all over again? Ya know repost.

 

[Throckmorton]

It may sound distasteful but think of the fallout if we didn't extend unemployment insurance... Everyone would suffer if those unemployed people just stopped paying their bills to private entities that exist in the economy.

 

[Steeplerot]

It may sound distasteful but think of the fallout if we didn't extend unemployment insurance... Everyone would suffer if those unemployed people just stopped paying their bills to private entities that exist in the economy.

Ideology no matter how foolish and against ones own best interests trumps common sense.
That is as long as your own ass is covered.

 

[blackangst1]

That de-ja-vue thing all over again? Ya know repost.

This. IMHO a reasonable time would be 6-9 months max.

 

[TruePaige]

What about people that are losing jobs right now / a few months ago? When they get to the end of their benefits they aren't getting the extensions are they? Tried to see what the qualifying dates were and it seemed like they weren't.

 

[dmcowen674]

http://money.cnn.com/2010/04/23/new...nt_benefits/index.htm?source=cnn_bin&hpt=Sbin

advocates want Congress to once again extend the duration of benefits. Unemployment insurance (to triple digits). they say it keeps people from defaulting on their mortgages and turning to public services, such as welfare and emergency housing. The payments keep food on the table and the lights on.

Others argue that the reason there are so many people still out of work is because they have unemployment benefits to fall back on. If they weren't getting a weekly check, they'd be forced to get a job.

"People think that when benefits run out, most people will still be unemployed," Reynolds said. But "most will accept jobs that are less than ideal shortly before benefits run out."


i say Enuf of this social welfare!

What do you think?

4-24-2010

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100424/ap_on_bi_ge/us_sandwich_board_job_hunter

Sandwich-board job hunter finds work after 2 years


NEW YORK – When laid-off toy company executive Paul Nawrocki hit the streets of Manhattan wearing a sandwich board and handing out his resume, he became the face of the recession.
At the end of 2008, with the giants of Wall Street collapsing and bank accounts dwindling, this lone, mustachioed job hunter with the sign proclaiming he was "almost homeless" seemed like a mirror of a slumping nation's fears and troubles.


Nawrocki appeared on CNN and was shadowed by South American photojournalists. In a handful of weeks, he gave more than 100 interviews in TV studios and on the street. He began to think of his photograph like a Post-it note — stuck next to seemingly every article about the economy.


Having the eyes of the world on him didn't land the then-59-year-old any viable job interviews. His wife was sick, and keeping his health care was a struggle. He began to decide between the doctors and the mortgage.


Well, if Paul Nawrocki is a sign of the times, then times are looking up.
Because last month, after collecting 99 weeks of unemployment, Nawrocki finally found a job.


Nawrocki hopes he's back on his feet after the long, dark stretch. But he knows he's still on shaky footing. The financial damage of the last two years won't just disappear.
"We're still not out of the woods," he says now. He has two mortgages on his home 70 miles north of Manhattan.
"One of our mortgages — I'm like six months behind. I don't know how I'm going to be able to catch up."
Nawrocki and his wife declared bankruptcy last year. They got food stamps. They went to food banks. They took gifts from family.


In the end, his path back to work wasn't through his television appearances, but through old-fashioned networking. He went to a toy-industry fair, and a friend introduced him to the man who would become his boss. Nawrocki believes the tales of his sandwich-board days helped him land an interview.
His paycheck is nearly half the size; he had made almost $100,000 a year. And his title is a little less grand.


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This guy literally punded the pavement of New York City for 99 weeks.


I know none of you silver spoon rich Republicans would ever do that or survive.


Congrats Mr Nawrocki for surviving despite the disgusting posters of P&N against you.

 

[blackangst1]

...

This is priceless. I could probably link you 10 posts from you wherre some executive at some company was laid off and you cheered...because he was an executive. And then, you link this article (about an executive no less) and cheer him as some kind of hero, then this priceless comment:

know none of you silver spoon rich Republicans would ever do that or survive.

and thats exactly what Paul Nawrocki is, and did!!!

lulz

McOwned yourself. Again. Youre a piece of work. Keep posting please!

 

[BoberFett]

Hahaha, this is awesome. I'm never going to have to work again. I'll let the rest of you stupid fuckers just send me your money.

 

[MJinZ]

1.9 years ... damn... guess if we get laid off, you can have a nice long vacation and get still get paid.

 

[PJABBER]

To collect unemployment you must document that you are actually looking for work. If you are caught skating you will have a severe financial penalty and maybe even a criminal fraud case brought.

I don't have a problem with having a societal safety net like unemployment compensation. Though after six months I think that an able bodied person should be required to contribute 10-20 hours a week toward some kind of vetted public service in return for receiving extended benefits.

I have done my personal best to help anyone I know who has been layed off. Unfortunately, that is not a small number over the years as middle and senior management in most companies has been decimated. It is actually much easier for many lower wage earners to regain employment, jobs are available most everywhere if you can live on lower wages.

I think the referenced executive would have been employed much sooner if he were not so public in his search and if he had initially been open to a lower paid position. I don't know his particular circumstances, but most companies don't like to hire high profile candidates like that. What if they wind up having to do a layoff of their own and this guy pops up on TV again, this time using the name of the latest hiring company?

Anyway, it is good to hear he got a job. I hope the financial doldrums so many are in will change with the forthcoming change in government come November.

 

[MovingTarget]

Until the jobs start returning en masse, this kind of thing is to be expected. The whole argument of 'those who are receiving unemployment benefits will not even try to find work' is complete bs. Unemployment benefits are so little that to say 'being on the dole is preferential to having a real paying job' is ludicrous. It is right up there with saying that being in poverty is ideal because of all the tax benefits and welfare.

 

[MJinZ]

Honestly, I think people need to start re-evaluating just when you can actually afford that mortgage, or when you can afford that car.

 

[RoloMather]

Nice. Thank you for the money.

 

[MJinZ]

To collect unemployment you must document that you are actually looking for work. If you are caught skating you will have a severe financial penalty and maybe even a criminal fraud case brought.

I don't have a problem with having a societal safety net like unemployment compensation. Though after six months I think that an able bodied person should be required to contribute 10-20 hours a week toward some kind of vetted public service in return for receiving extended benefits.

I have done my personal best to help anyone I know who has been layed off. Unfortunately, that is not a small number over the years as middle and senior management in most companies has been decimated. It is actually much easier for many lower wage earners to regain employment, jobs are available most everywhere if you can live on lower wages.

I think the referenced executive would have been employed much sooner if he were not so public in his search and if he had initially been open to a lower paid position. I don't know his particular circumstances, but most companies don't like to hire high profile candidates like that. What if they wind up having to do a layoff of their own and this guy pops up on TV again, this time using the name of the latest hiring company?

Anyway, it is good to hear he got a job. I hope the financial doldrums so many are in will change with the forthcoming change in government come November.

The problem is though, say you have an advanced degree and you made $125K a year before you were laid off.

Now, you can be looking for work for months before even finding one that will interview you.

Because of your education, you're not going to be looking at Walmart jobs.

And this is OK with the system for some reason. I understand the reasons why, but it's still very abuseable.

 

[StageLeft]

It's getting stupid. There are lots of crappy jobs out there and chances are that if you are normally employed in a non-crappy job you should have the foresight to save some money ahead of time. Two years unemployment is crazy UNLESS it is considered a loan; once you exhaust what the insurance is normally (based on employers' payments) anything extra should be a loan you absolutely do have to pay back.

 

[blackangst1]

1.9 years ... damn... guess if we get laid off, you can have a nice long vacation and get still get paid.

As much as I dislike 1.9 years policy on unemployment, I selfishly and secretly hope I get laid off so I can spend some time in eith S America or SE Asia Thats what I did in the dot com bust, but I only got 6 months

 

[MJinZ]

As much as I dislike 1.9 years policy on unemployment, I selfishly and secretly hope I get laid off so I can spend some time in eith S America or SE Asia Thats what I did in the dot com bust, but I only got 6 months

But you can't collect if you go off on vacation. You have to keep going to your local office of unemployment to collect your check each week.

 

[blackangst1]

But you can't collect if you go off on vacation. You have to keep going to your local office of unemployment to collect your check each week.

eh, last time I got unemployment, checks were sent in the mail. It could be different now, and probably vaires by state.

 

[blackangst1]

To collect unemployment you must document that you are actually looking for work. If you are caught skating you will have a severe financial penalty and maybe even a criminal fraud case brought.

I don't have a problem with having a societal safety net like unemployment compensation. Though after six months I think that an able bodied person should be required to contribute 10-20 hours a week toward some kind of vetted public service in return for receiving extended benefits.

I have done my personal best to help anyone I know who has been layed off. Unfortunately, that is not a small number over the years as middle and senior management in most companies has been decimated. It is actually much easier for many lower wage earners to regain employment, jobs are available most everywhere if you can live on lower wages.

I think the referenced executive would have been employed much sooner if he were not so public in his search and if he had initially been open to a lower paid position. I don't know his particular circumstances, but most companies don't like to hire high profile candidates like that. What if they wind up having to do a layoff of their own and this guy pops up on TV again, this time using the name of the latest hiring company?

Anyway, it is good to hear he got a job. I hope the financial doldrums so many are in will change with the forthcoming change in government come November.

Just playing devil's advocate...you know that "creating" a job search isnt too difficult, right? And there's no penalty that Im aware of that says you HAVE to accept a job offer. So, you could a job offer a week, turn em all down, and still sit on your ass...if you wanted

 

[Lanyap]

There were 5.5 job seekers per job opening in February
These are the latest available numbers. What do the other 4.5 do?

Though after six months I think that an able bodied person should be required to contribute 10-20 hours a week toward some kind of vetted public service in return for receiving extended benefits.

I like this idea. I've been laid off since December and I would do the public service work. With most local governments struggling to make ends meet this would help them out. I think.

 

[Jhhnn]

eh, last time I got unemployment, checks were sent in the mail. It could be different now, and probably vaires by state.

In Colorado, and everywhere else, I suspect, you'd have to lie to say you were looking for work while secretly vacationing in Thailand... You know, act like a parasite on the system, a leech, a slacker, a something for nothing kind of scammer...

Not that it really matters in today's economy, given the numbers Lanyap furnished, except to reveal the hypocrisy of some.

It's a damned shame that congress finds it necessary to extend benefits this far, revealing that things really are very bad, worse than we're led to believe.

Ain't it grand- deregulated free market global capitalism in all it's glory. Welcome aboard, debt-slave suckas... when your capitalist masters scuttle the ship, you'll be chained to the oars...

 

[blackangst1]

In Colorado, and everywhere else, I suspect, you'd have to lie to say you were looking for work while secretly vacationing in Thailand... You know, act like a parasite on the system, a leech, a slacker, a something for nothing kind of scammer...

I had to double take. I thought you were talking about welfare recipients for a minute. Whew!

Oh, and you dont need to be physically in the country to be honestly looking for work

 

[Darwin333]

http://money.cnn.com/2010/04/23/new...nt_benefits/index.htm?source=cnn_bin&hpt=Sbin

advocates want Congress to once again extend the duration of benefits. Unemployment insurance (to triple digits). they say it keeps people from defaulting on their mortgages and turning to public services, such as welfare and emergency housing. The payments keep food on the table and the lights on.

Others argue that the reason there are so many people still out of work is because they have unemployment benefits to fall back on. If they weren't getting a weekly check, they'd be forced to get a job.

"People think that when benefits run out, most people will still be unemployed," Reynolds said. But "most will accept jobs that are less than ideal shortly before benefits run out."


i say Enuf of this social welfare!

What do you think?

The bolded is all they are really concerned with. If Congress is good at anything it is helping their masters.