Unelected body given right to tax.

imported_Shivetya

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An Arlington judge yesterday ruled that starting in January an unelected regional body can levy on Northern Virginia residents a slew of new taxes and fees to pay for local transportation upgrades.


So no longer will politicians have to anwser to the voters, they can just pass the blame off to another party while still raking in the bucks. Amazing isn't it?


Some samples!

* Grantor's tax ? 40 cents per $100 of value when residential property is sold.
* Motor-vehicle rental tax ? 2 percent of rental rate.
* Transient occupancy tax ? 2 percent of hotel rate.
* Vehicle safety inspection fee ? $10 a year.
* Sales tax on auto repairs ? 5 percent of labor charges.
* Regional vehicle registration fee ? $10 a year.
* A one-time vehicle registration fee ? 1 percent of the purchase price.
 

BoberFett

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This is nothing new. Congress and the state legislatures have been giving the ability tax, excuse me, set fees to bureaucratic organizations for a long time.
 

SilthDraeth

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No taxation without representation!

I wonder whatever happened to that ideal? But as previously stated, Americans won't revolt until our living conditions get way worse. And maybe not even then, if you look at oppression in some other parts of the world, with no revolution happening.
 

waggy

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sheesh.

tax's are getting out of hand. those are just insane.

they tried to do something like that here. BUT it was a watershed agency. small group (6 people) were going to be able to impose tax's on 3 counties in IL. They would have been given the legal right to start new tax's, a police force, etc.

not to mention limit how much water you use. Now i am not talking about people in town. im talking about people in the country who have wells. it was rather insane.
 

Triumph

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Here's the solution to traffic problems in Northern Virginia: Smart development. The modus operandi of development around here is to branch all of your communities off of several main arteries, with only one or two entrances to each community (serving several hundred people each). This has the net result of funneling all the people to the same roads with little options for alternate routes. Result: gridlock! Traffic is alot like water or electricity, it seeks the path of least possible resistance. When road A is jammed, an appropriate number of cars will divert to road B (guided by the invisible hand) until everything evens out. But when you have no choice but road A, then you're stuck.
 

dmcowen674

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Well this certainly is one way to fix the transporation problem is that all the people that can't afford it will be forced to leave.

Lose enough people and then see what happens.
 

Jaskalas

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Originally posted by: SilthDraeth
No taxation without representation!

I wonder whatever happened to that ideal?

Karl Marx had a better ideal, and the world has been implementing it ever since. You can read the eventual destination of our path in the ?Communist Manifesto?. Personally I despise everything about it, but that seems to be a minority opinion these days.
 

Mxylplyx

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Originally posted by: SilthDraeth
No taxation without representation!

I wonder whatever happened to that ideal? But as previously stated, Americans won't revolt until our living conditions get way worse. And maybe not even then, if you look at oppression in some other parts of the world, with no revolution happening.

The effect of little taxes here and there is so gradual, people dont even realize that their being taxed to death anymore.
 

daveshel

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Originally posted by: SilthDraeth
No taxation without representation!

I wonder whatever happened to that ideal? But as previously stated, Americans won't revolt until our living conditions get way worse. And maybe not even then, if you look at oppression in some other parts of the world, with no revolution happening.

It was never codified. But even if it was, it would have been lost along with the 1st and 4th amendments, etc.
 

Genx87

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I was reading theOnion yesterday and one of the ask the people spoofs they ran had a response that said "This administration is really testing my apathy".

I wonder if this will do the same to the voters of the peoples republic of virginia. I had no idea that state was like that.

 

Moonbeam

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Geez, Congress shed the right to declare war as too hot a potato. Why would they want to have to take credit for taxes?
 

OutHouse

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A one-time vehicle registration fee ? 1 percent of the purchase price. :Q

Grantor's tax ? 40 cents per $100 of value when residential property is sold. :Q
-so you get taxed on selling your home? a 200K home is a 800 tax.


how in the world could any judge approve this? i just dont get it.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: SilthDraeth
No taxation without representation!

I wonder whatever happened to that ideal?

Karl Marx had a better ideal, and the world has been implementing it ever since. You can read the eventual destination of our path in the ?Communist Manifesto?. Personally I despise everything about it, but that seems to be a minority opinion these days.

Well, the problem with Marx's ideal is that (for all his genius) it is fundamentally flawed by silly pseudo-religious idealism. So instead of that being our eventual destination, it will always result in a brutal totalitarian Stalinism or fascism. I call it the "Return of the King."

Throughout history, democracy always breaks down in the fashion that George Lucas illustrated so well in this scene from Attack of the Clones:

ANAKIN: I don't think the system works.

PADMÉ: How would you have it work?

ANAKIN: We need a system where the politicians sit down and
discuss the problem, agree what's in the best interests of
all the people, and then do it.

PADMÉ: That is exactly what we do. The trouble is that
people don't always agree. In fact, they hardly ever do.

ANAKIN: Then they should be made to.

PADMÉ: By whom? Who's going to make them?

ANAKIN: I don't know. Someone.

PADMÉ: You?

ANAKIN: Of course not me.

PADMÉ: But someone.

ANAKIN: Someone wise.

PADMÉ: That sounds an awful lot like a dictatorship to me.

ANAKIN: Well, if it works...
 

Triumph

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Originally posted by: Citrix
A one-time vehicle registration fee ? 1 percent of the purchase price. :Q

Grantor's tax ? 40 cents per $100 of value when residential property is sold. :Q
-so you get taxed on selling your home? a 200K home is a 800 tax.


how in the world could any judge approve this? i just dont get it.

Yeah, on top of the 4.5% vehicle sales tax and the ~2% annual car tax (I forget exactly what the car tax is).

And the tax on home selling? So I get taxed when I sell my home and buy my car? It works both ways now?