Unconstitutional gun control laws won't be enforced

[Incorruptible]

State officials in Oregon and Texas are vowing to fight back against any attempt by the federal government to impose new gun control laws. But in Oregon, Linn County Sheriff Tim Mueller wrote a letter to Biden Monday saying his department will not enforce any new gun laws it considers unconstitutional.



Mueller said the politicians are exploiting the tragedy for political purposes and took an oath to support the Constitution and will not the violate the rights of the people.

Good for Texas and Oregon for standing up against this, The new gun regulations will not work and are just for political purposes, it only serves to take away rights from law abiding citizens. Hopefully more states will follow suit and send a message to the government.

Do you think that Texas and Oregon did the right or wrong thing in warning the WhiteHouse?

Should states refuse to obey laws that violate the Constitution?

http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/16/us/oregon-sheriff-gun-laws/index.html

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/01/15/ore-sheriff-says-wont-enforce-new-gun-laws/

 

[CrackRabbit]

 

[zsdersw]

My oh my.. .Cristiano Ronaldo is HOTTT

 

[monovillage]

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Having state officials telling Federal officials they won't enforce laws/regulations that are unconstitutional is hardly trolling. Backing it up with 2 links to mainstream media (CNN and Fox) is hardly fringe.

 

[zsdersw]

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Having state officials telling Federal officials they won't enforce laws/regulations that are unconstitutional is hardly trolling. Backing it up with 2 links to mainstream media (CNN and Fox) is hardly fringe.

The OP himself is guilty of violating this rule, and in his case... being the consummate parrot who has never expressed an original thought... damn the rules.

 

[Olikan]

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then, how the hell OP didn't get banned yet?

 

[Incorruptible]

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Having state officials telling Federal officials they won't enforce laws/regulations that are unconstitutional is hardly trolling. Backing it up with 2 links to mainstream media (CNN and Fox) is hardly fringe.

The Constitution is not to be violated and any attempts to do this must be stopped. These state officials believe in the 2nd Amendment and are doing a good job to protect the rights of the people, I just hope the other states follow suit.

I knew there would be some idiots/trolls who would try to attack the links so I got Fox and Cnn.

 

[Charles Kozierok]

Monovillage is correct.

And I'm really annoyed at being forced to stand up for Incorruptible. (And no, you may not put that in your sig.)

 

[momeNt]

I approve of what Oregon and Texas are saying they'll do. They go from being the physical frontier of America to the metaphorical frontier of America's liberty.

 

[zsdersw]

Monovillage is correct.

I don't care.

 

[CrackRabbit]

I don't care.

This.

 

[zsdersw]

I applaud these state officials, just as I applaud the Obama administration for refusing to defend DOMA. They're both acting on their belief that the law is unconstitutional which, in both cases, is 100% true.

 

[Moonbeam]

No law is unconstitutional if passed until the Supreme Court says it is. If Oregon and Texas think they have a beef, they can take it to the courts. Otherwise, federal law trumps state law. The problem is that lunatics like the OP think they know what the Constitution says before the courts do and that if the courts rule other than what he believes, the courts, not they, are wrong. He may do so all he wishes so long as he obeys the law as stated, not as he believes it should be applied. We have prisons for folk who think they are the law and act out their personal code even if a violation.

 

[Agent11]

Thats pretty convoluted reasoning Moonbat. You weren't a big fan of the civil rights movement I suppose then.

 

[gothamhunter]

It's funny how most people try and skip over the "well regulated" part of the 2nd amendment.

 

[brandonb]

It's funny how most people try and skip over the "well regulated" part of the 2nd amendment.

I'm part of the well regulated militia called the selective service.

 

[Moonbeam]

Thats pretty convoluted reasoning Moonbat. You weren't a big fan of the civil rights movement I suppose then.

You mean the right of peaceful assembly? Protesters who break the law go to jail.

 

[Agent11]

I am registered for the draft as well. It is the law you know.

 

[Jimzz]

I applaud these state officials, just as I applaud the Obama administration for refusing to defend DOMA. They're both acting on their belief that the law is unconstitutional which, in both cases, is 100% true.

Differance is Courts have said DOMA is unconstitutional.
Just because some nut says something is unconstitutional does not make it so.

 

[schneiderguy]

It's funny how most people try and skip over the "well regulated" part of the 2nd amendment.

I hate that too.

How are people supposed to fight effectively for the militia if they all have different rifles, and different ammunition? How are they supposed to fight effectively if they can only afford to shoot 500 rounds a year?

To well regulate the militia, we need to provide taxpayer funded rifles to every male over the age of 18, and 10,000 rounds a year for training purposes.

 

[monovillage]

You mean the right of peaceful assembly? Protesters who break the law go to jail.

Which is what these local officials are saying, that if they get orders from the Administration to arrest citizens for peacefully assembling that they won't do it. They won't because it's a citizens Right.

 

[Incorruptible]

Monovillage is correct.

And I'm really annoyed at being forced to stand up for Incorruptible. (And no, you may not put that in your sig.)

Thank you, I appreciate it. If people dont like this thread then either debate or ignore it.

 

[schneiderguy]

Differance is Courts have said DOMA is unconstitutional.
Just because some nut says something is unconstitutional does not make it so.

"Assault weapon" bans are pretty clearly unconstitutional under DC vs. Heller.

 

[Nebor]

There are federal laws that allow federal law enforcement agents to be removed from state\local courts and taken to federal court to be tried before a federal judge. If the law enforcement of Texas were to arrest federal agents in the performance of their duty, those federal agents would be pulled to federal court and the charges dismissed.

 

[ShintaiDK]

It's funny how most people try and skip over the "well regulated" part of the 2nd amendment.

Indeed. They only seem tor ead what they wish to read. Perhaps a refresh of the text is in order:

As passed by the Congress:
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
As ratified by the States and authenticated by Thomas Jefferson,

Secretary of State:
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed

Advocating unregulated gunlaw..is actually against the 2nd amendment. Who would have thought.

And lets lookup the definition of militia:

An army composed of ordinary citizens rather than professional soldiers.
A military force that is not part of a regular army and is subject to call for service in an emergency.
The whole body of physically fit civilians eligible by law for military service.

You could actually ban all guns in the US and still comply with the 2nd amendment. The national guard is the militia.