Unarmed black 17 year old shot by Neighborhood watch captain in gated community...

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HomerJS

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Already posted hours ago. Maybe you spend more time reading posts in the thread before posting stories that have already been debunked.

You are the one who said it came from an investegator. Sorry for assuming you are not a bald faced liar.
 

J-Money

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Couldn't imagine the taste in the mouth of those who kept defending Zimmerman. Way to show your character.
 

micrometers

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I honestly can't tell who is screaming. What appears to have happened is Zimmerman chased the boy into the alley. The boy then confronted him and maybe threw a punch or two. Knocked Zimmerman down, wails a bit, Zimmerman shoots

And afterwards Trayvon is face-down, which actually is consistent if he is on top and gets shot.

The thing is even if it was self-defense, his actions contributed to the confrontation, and at the very least involuntary manslaughter.
 

blankslate

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According to the investigator Trayvon's father said that voice on the 911 tape calling for help was not Trayvon.

That detail is being disputed....

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com...-20120316_1_deadly-shooting-dispatcher-shot/2

Police lied Friday, Crump said, when they said Tracy Martin said the voice crying for help was not his son. What Tracy Martin told police, Crump said, was that "he couldn't tell, that it was too distorted."

if you listen to the recording Mr. Zimmerman said Trayvon Martin ran.

So the kid starts running... if someone is running from you it's reasonable to assume that they are afraid. So when Trayvon Martin is confronted by Mr. Zimmerman it's reasonable to suppose that Trayvon Martin felt that his life was in danger and tried to get Mr. Zimmerman from following him.
 

classy

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Well lets see. The city of Sandford is going to pay for the police misconduct, a few million. The HOA is going to pay for having this nutt job in the first place, a few million. And fat boy probably won't see 30.
 

sandorski

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I honestly can't tell who is screaming. What appears to have happened is Zimmerman chased the boy into the alley. The boy then confronted him and maybe threw a punch or two. Knocked Zimmerman down, wails a bit, Zimmerman shoots

And afterwards Trayvon is face-down, which actually is consistent if he is on top and gets shot.

The thing is even if it was self-defense, his actions contributed to the confrontation, and at the very least involuntary manslaughter.

Ya, it's really hard to tell from the recording who was yelling...and it doesn't help that none of us knows these 2 persons.
 

HomerJS

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We now know why there wan't an arrest. The police dept is either incompetant or corrupt.

All you Zimmerman suck-assess should feel proud of yourselves for condemming an innocent person as a thug/criminal without any real justification other then your own biases.

The only case of self defense here is Treyvon running from this sicko motherfucker.
 

micrometers

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I do think it is possible that after Trayvon fled and Zimmerman was in the ally, that Trayvon maybe maybe went up to him and punched him or something.

Which doesn't quite make sense, but it is possible.
 

Craig234

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I saw a video on the Cenk Uygur show, edit: here's a link to the video:

http://tarawallis.tumblr.com/

This shows better than a lot of stories can tell about culture.

The parents of the 17 year old killed in Florida were being interviewed, apparently by local media. It was a somber interview, the mother tearful.

A reporter asked the mother to describe her son's demeanor usually. She said he was happy, liked to listen to music, talk on the phone, to girls, watch sports... to eat...

At this point another reporter interjected:

"Chicken?"

There seemed to be a snickering among reporters. The parents didn't seem to notice the racism, and a man (father?) said 'yes, whatever was in the fridge'.

That's just outrageous behavior. No one called the reporter on it, said anything at the time.

But I think it helps show how there are different cultures - that while we might have a hard time imagining such behavior, somewhere else it might be not surprising.

For a reporter to say such an offensive, racial 'joke' to a tearful mother about the son who was just killed... and then we ask about the culture where there's a question whether there's racism playing a role in the investigation of a white shooting a black boy, it adds some understanding of the possibility. When a white witness says she has made many calls to the police to tell her story and that she does not think it was self defense and that they refuse to talk to her, while the police put out a false statement that they had talked to her.

It's also easy to imagine how this story could easily have not gone anywhere if for some reason the national media had not decided to publicize it.
 
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blankslate

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I do think it is possible that after Trayvon fled and Zimmerman was in the ally, that Trayvon maybe maybe went up to him and punched him or something.

Which doesn't quite make sense, but it is possible.


It's obvious that Trayvon Martin realized that Mr. Zimmerman was following him and feared for his life! He was entitled to use any force necessary at that point... remember Trayvon Martin had no duty to retreat. Mr. Zimmerman plainly shot someone who was just trying to defend himself...

sounds almost pretty much like a spidey07 post.
 
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HomerJS

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I do think it is possible that after Trayvon fled and Zimmerman was in the ally, that Trayvon maybe maybe went up to him and punched him or something.

Which doesn't quite make sense, but it is possible.

You are a teenager its either close to or sundown. Some creepy stranger gets out of his car and starts chasing you. At that point Treyvon is in self defense mode.
 

micrometers

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It's obvious that Trayvon Martin realized that Mr. Zimmerman was following him and feared for his life! He was entitled to use any force necessary at that point... remember Trayvon Martin had no duty to retreat. Mr. Zimmerman plainly shot someone who was just trying to defend himself...

sounds almost pretty much like a spidey07 post.

No. I put him on ignore. He's annoying.

I'm just wondering about the scenario where zimmerman's account adds up. Still, there is a significant amount of gray here.
 

HomerJS

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No. I put him on ignore. He's annoying.

I'm just wondering about the scenario where zimmerman's account adds up. Still, there is a significant amount of gray here.

The evidence seems to be piling up against Z. At least you are asking questions in a reasonable fashion unlike some people around here.

Story hasen't quite gone national yet but with the release of the tapes it will explode.
 
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umbrella39

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No.

This thread is becoming:

Spidey talking out of his ass, and people smacking him around like a red-headed step child. Like damn near every other Spidey thread.

A scenario you should be all too familiar with...

The shame is many threads here end up being about spidey... it's been old for years already.. yet he remains.
 

Capt Caveman

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The evidence seems to be piling up against Z. At least you are asking questions in a reasonable fashion unlike some people around here.

Story hasen't quite gone national yet but with the release of the tapes it will explode.

Which is why the family had to sue to get them released and why the police released them so late on a Friday night. I just can't believe the Sanford Police would think they'd be able to get away with something like this again.
 
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