Unarmed black 17 year old shot by Neighborhood watch captain in gated community...

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blankslate

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I have no compassion for people who violently attack other people. Zimmerman is the victim here.

Zimmerman is alive and Trayvon Martin is dead. I think Trayvon Martin is as much a victim.

But I guess following someone long enough to creep them out against the sound advice of a 911 dispatcher isn't provocative at all.

After your incessant monotonous posts I really do hope that "stand your ground" laws are repealed.

You might get lucky though.
 

momeNt

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So all you have to do to kill someone and get off scot-free. Is the following few steps.


  • Follow them late at night in a vehicle
  • Call cops say they look suspicious, remember don't heed their warning to leave the scene - they are only joking.
  • Follow them enough to get them to say what's your problem.
  • Follow them a little further to a place without witnesses.
  • When they stop again, this time get out and looked amped up for a fight, take a few blows, shoot them, kill them.
Recipe for success and if this thread tells us anything, there will be quite a bit support for getting off with no charges.


Remember pedestrians, do not EVER even turn to look at a vehicle that's been following you for a few blocks. They may just DEFEND THEMSELVES!
 

spidey07

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I have no compassion for people who provoke others and use that to justify the use a deadly force.

Have any evidence of your claim? So far the recount of events, supported by evidence and multiple eye witness testimony, is that Martin approached zimmerman saying "what's your problem" and then attacked him. There may have been some words exchanged, but words to not mean it's OK to violently attack somebody.
 

airdata

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Zimmerman recently had a 2005 felony arrest for assault on a police officer expunged by the courts.

So, the guy payed enough to a lawyer to have a felony charge hidden. He shouldn't have been able to own a gun as a felon.

Guys like Spidey look halarious defending this guy.. Must be such a tough decision.> Do you side w\ the 26 year old hispanic felon or the young black punk?

Guess you guys hate black people more than brown people.
 

ch33zw1z

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Have any evidence of your claim? So far the recount of events, supported by evidence and multiple eye witness testimony, is that Martin approached zimmerman saying "what's your problem" and then attacked him. There may have been some words exchanged, but words to not mean it's OK to violently attack somebody.

Any evidence to yours? I have not read a single eye witness testimony that claims that. If there was a witness who saw the beginning of this situation, they surely stayed until the end.

By your reply, you disagree with my statement? Do you approve of provocation to justify deadly force then? My claim is true regardless of the situation.
 

khon

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Whatever else people might say, this much is certainly true: If Mr. Zimmerman had simply done what the police told him to, noone would have died, or been hurt in any way.

Instead a teenage boy is dead.
 

momeNt

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Have any evidence of your claim? So far the recount of events, supported by evidence and multiple eye witness testimony, is that Martin approached zimmerman saying "what's your problem" and then attacked him. There may have been some words exchanged, but words to not mean it's OK to violently attack somebody.

You forgot Zimmerman got out of his car. That's not really self defense anymore. That's entering willfully into an altercation.
 

spidey07

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Any evidence to yours? I have not read a single eye witness testimony that claims that. If there was a witness who saw the beginning of this situation, they surely stayed until the end.

By your reply, you disagree with my statement? Do you approve of provocation to justify deadly force then?

That witnesses name is Zimmerman.
 

ch33zw1z

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That witnesses name is Zimmerman.

That's what I thought. No witnesses, just a guy trying to save his ass...literally.

By the lack of response, I can assume that you agree with provoking someone and using that as justification to use deadly force then?
 
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spidey07

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That's what I thought. No witnesses, just a guy trying to save his ass...literally.

How about where zimmerman is on his back being beaten? That's the story, backed up by multiple witnesses.

Are you completely ignoring what the police and prosecutors have said to justify what you've made up in your mind on what you want to have happened?
 

khon

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What really bothers me about those who defend Mr. Zimmerman, is how little value they put on a human life.

Lets say you're correct, and Trayvon did confront Mr. Zimmerman, then knocked him to the ground. How is that sufficient cause for lethal force ? How it that enough to justify the killing of a 17-year old ?
 

soundforbjt

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What really bothers me about those who defend Mr. Zimmerman, is how little value they put on a human life.

Lets say you're correct, and Trayvon did confront Mr. Zimmerman, then knocked him to the ground. How is that sufficient cause for lethal force ? How it that enough to justify the killing of a 17-year old ?

Please don't ask...it's been asked too many times...You won't like the answer.
 

airdata

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How about where zimmerman is on his back being beaten? That's the story, backed up by multiple witnesses.

Are you completely ignoring what the police and prosecutors have said to justify what you've made up in your mind on what you want to have happened?

He instigated a fight with a minor. That alone is a crime on top of his owning a firearm as a felon ( expunged or not, he's still a felon and they're not allowed to own guns are they? )

He should have taken his ass beating, left all of the pride he lost from getting his ass kicked by a child, and gone home.
 

NeoV

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Jesus Christ Spidey - he followed the teen - he got out of the car - with a gun - who is the instigator here? Was the teen supposed to run away when Z approached him?
 

airdata

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What really bothers me about those who defend Mr. Zimmerman, is how little value they put on a human life.

Lets say you're correct, and Trayvon did confront Mr. Zimmerman, then knocked him to the ground. How is that sufficient cause for lethal force ? How it that enough to justify the killing of a 17-year old ?

These are the type of scum we have to deal with here in the P&N section. They pretend like they are coming from a moral high ground but then come to find out they're absolute garbage.
 

ch33zw1z

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How about where zimmerman is on his back being beaten? That's the story, backed up by multiple witnesses.

Are you completely ignoring what the police and prosecutors have said to justify what you've made up in your mind on what you want to have happened?

Again, I haven't seen a single witness say that. Please repost the link. Why do you think I would "want" to have something happen? I want the truth, fact is we'll only ever know one side of it. It just so happens that side involves a guy with a gun, and he made someone dead with it. So you're all over this like a rabid monkey to defend your gun rights and tell everyone how much of a hero this coward is.