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Found another picture of him on a funky site...looks like a more recent photo possibly from facebook but I can guess why it isn't circulated like his other ones are...might be the same hoodie too
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Why?
Found another picture of him on a funky site...looks like a more recent photo possibly from facebook but I can guess why it isn't circulated like his other ones are...might be the same hoodie too
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Were you there? How do you know what was asked? How do you know that the interview wasn't documented?
Possibly...so he did a thorough enough job of coaching him that he was able to maintain those exact details in his mind to give testimony multiple times over several days at least...maybe the initial time but for him to be able to keep it straight for days is harder than some might claim
Okay, what does any of this have to do with the case at hand? Can any of this be considered when reviewing the evidence and testimony?
The police must review the evidence/testimony and follow/apply the law as it written...period.
not necessarily. The car break-in I witnessed and identified involved a cute white chick and a black dude.
On your assumptions I would have let her slide and tried hitting on her while he got carted away?
Possibly...so he did a thorough enough job of coaching him that he was able to maintain those exact details in his mind to give testimony multiple times over several days at least...maybe the initial time but for him to be able to keep it straight for days is harder than some might claim
Do we know he was looking for black people? Were the previous criminals that got away black as well?
That hasn't been mentioned yet.
Benjamin Crump, the Martin family’s attorney.... .....filed a public records lawsuit to get the 911 recordings for the night of the shooting. Crump said people who have heard the tapes said Zimmerman, who is white, made a comment about Martin’s race during the call and that he had no intention of letting the youth get away because, “they always get away.” Others outlets have reported the use of an expletive. Martin is black.
The fact that he was armed on Neighborhood watch when at least one neighborhood watch organization deems it unwise calls into question how organized the watch program was.
Maybe the police won't look at it but it has a lot to do with this situation since the shooter was the head of this neighborhood watch program and possibly carrying while on patrol (assuming that he was scheduled to be on patrol.)
A degree in something doesn't help you keep a fabricated story together for a long period of time...though considering how short the encounter was it's possible he could have kept things straight, the worst that this shows though is bad police procedure, there's nothing concrete that it changed his story or the reality of what happened...hell we don;t even know what he said yetZ did have a degree/was studying in criminal law, so it is possible.
Found another picture of him on a funky site...looks like a more recent photo possibly from facebook but I can guess why it isn't circulated like his other ones are...might be the same hoodie too
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The fact that he was armed on Neighborhood watch when at least one neighborhood watch organization deems it unwise calls into question how organized the watch program was.
Maybe the police won't look at it but it has a lot to do with this situation since the shooter was the head of this neighborhood watch program and possibly carrying while on patrol (assuming that he was scheduled to be on patrol.)
The police can only use the evidence and sworn testimony..period
I seriously doubt the FBI, DoJ, or Fla Dept of Law Enforcement are going to find that the Sanford PD didn't perform a proper investigation.
In the end whether you like it or not, the law will be applied as written.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/parents-slain-black-teen-fbi-investigation-15936993#.T2NyBflVu3w
Hopefully the FBI, DoJ, and Florida Dept of Law Enforcement will review this case, this way if no issues are noted concerning the investigation no one will be able to say that the Sanford PD didn't perform a proper investigation.
So what happens if armed T supporters start questioning and/or detaining Z's family members on the street.
Don't they have a much a right to do this as Z?
Enlighten me. Why wouldn't it be circulated like the other ones?
The police can only use the evidence and sworn testimony..period
If a third party did review the case it would hopefully shed light on many of the unanswered questions we have regarding the case. I suspect, though, that at the end of the day Zimmerman will be held responsible for an unnecessary shooting of an unarmed person.
So what happens if armed T supporters start questioning and/or detaining Z's family members on the street.
Don't they have a much a right to do this as Z?
Sure, but given what is said about the wisdom of some by about carrying while on Neighorhood Watch patrol. I do hope that there is a law that prevents an armed person who is doing his rounds from confronting someone who *isn't* in the middle of committing a crime (beating someone up, vandalism, or breaking and entering for example) is passed.
And that is something that as zinfamous suspects (as do I) at least one poster worries about more than he is concerned over a tragedy that really could have been avoided (please don't tell me that you dispute that).
It doesn't show him looking young and innocent...in and of itself it's not a bad picture in any way but doesn't portray the image they want to project of him. It does make him look older than the football pictures by far...and if there was nothing wrong with it why would they publish it since it also possibly shows what he was wearing that night?Enlighten me. Why wouldn't it be circulated like the other ones?
Of course they have the right to speak to them but they don't have the right to detain them. If they attempt to detain them they are in violation of the law and will be dealt with accordingly.
You have no proof that Zimmerman detained Trayvon...well other than in your mind.
Sure it could have been avoided by Zimmerman waiting for the Police to arrive but at the end of the day you have to apply the law based on what transpired and not what could have been.
It doesn't show him looking young and innocent...in and of itself it's not a bad picture in any way but doesn't portray the image they want to project of him. It does make him look older than the football pictures by far...and if there was nothing wrong with it why would they publish it since it also possibly shows what he was wearing that night?
So then NW is bisbanded and people can just "walk" around their neighborhood...with a CC permit...what would such a law really accomplish?Given that it could have been avoided then I don't think that a law keeping people on neighborhood watch who are carrying from confronting a person who is not obviously in the middle of a crime is unreasonable.
This wasn't the street, it was a private community of which Zimmerman was a resident. Martin was a guest.
Zimmerman had reasonable cause to approach Martin, but that is not a requirement to ask someone a question.
There is absolutely no proof that anyone was detained. However, Florida does allow for citizen arrests....
They'd be considered a mob if they did what they propose. Only people involved at the time of the crime can make a citizens arrest in Florida.
